I address this post mainly to my female audience because, in my experience, the pathology I’ll be discussing, while not exclusively male, is more often than not expressed by men against women.
I revisit here what I regard as an important relationship red flag: When you meet a man who seems to be “Mr. Perfect,” someone “you can’t find anything wrong with,” you need to take a good long pause; otherwise, trouble bodes.
Now I’m not talking about, or maligning, the experience of “great chemistry.” Great chemistry, even electric chemistry, where you hit it off instantly, is a good thing and sometimes a good omen.
But there’s an important difference between “great chemistry” versus the sense of having met and experienced “perfection.” The genuine Mr. Right, in other words, is a very different creature than Mr. Perfect, who almost always will be a quack.
There are a number of reasons for this. First, men perceived by the women they meet as “too good to be true” are often men with an agenda to be perceived as too good to be true. These men are often calculating narcissists or sociopaths for whom the game, the challenge, the principal goal, is to disarm their female [target] objects with their apparent, and compelling, perfection.
To advance their agenda these men may exhibit inordinately seductive qualities right from jump—inordinate levels, for instance, of charm, politeness, thoughtfulness, soliticousness, sacrifice and attentiveness (in a word, responsiveness).
But this isn’t a case of their being on their “best behavior,” as new partners normally are with each other; rather, it’s a case of their being on their best “contrived” behavior, their intent being to effect an impression of perfection as if they are cut from a different cloth—specifically, the cloth of male romantic perfection.
These men may want you to regard them as Princes heaven-sent; they may want you to feel that it took something like your lottery-like good fortune to have found them.
Many of them will be seeking the approbation of your social circle; they may want those around you to ask as with shaking heads, “Where did you find him?” “What planet did he come from?” “Oh my God, he’s like”¦perfect!”
These men will often “groom” you not unlike how the sexual abuser grooms his victims—with promises of his special attentiveness, gratification and protectiveness. This exploitive strategy is extremely potent as it accesses deeply-held fantasies to be perfectly loved, protected and embraced.
Other LoveFraud columnists and astute posters have correctly noted that not all of these men are consciously operating as predators. While true, it’s also important not to minimize just how many of these men are, consciously, operating with predatory agendas.
In either case, these are not men who love, respect, or even like women. Rather, they use women for ego-gratifying and ego-masturbatory purposes. And just as the thrill of a masturbatury experience fades fast, so too does the thrill that women give such men fade with often startling, disorienting suddenness.
While this dynamic may or may not confuse the exploiter, it will surely confuse the unalert woman.
In their “grooming” process, these men will often pull out all the stops: they may, for instance, be the best, most attentive lovers you’ve ever had while all the while they’re not actually enjoying the sex because they’re not present; rather, they are watching themselves, and watching themselves with you, as if they’re porno aspirants determined to make a name for themselves, determined to stamp themselves (to legendize themselves, if you will) in your mind.
Many of these men are desperate to be the fantasy of their perfect selves–that is, the fantasy of themselves as special, unique, memorable. And so they tend parasitically (and compulsively) to seek cooperative, vulnerable hosts (such as you) as if to hold for them, store for them their slippery, empty gestures at immortality. (I intend to flesh this idea out in a separate post, recognizing the incompleteness of my explanation.)
We’ve discussed some of these concepts before, but another of them bears repeating: Narcissists, sociopaths and their like will chew you up for the temporary ego-gratifying nutrients you can supply them in the short-term; and then, like a piece of chewing gum from which they’ve extracted all the sugar, they’ll spit you out, devalue and discard you, now that you’ve lost your flavor (and thus use).
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2009 by Steve Becker, LCSW)
Maggie.This creep sounds awful, but YOU sound AMAZING.xx I too applaude you for kicking this creature to he curb.
I dont know how old you are, but you know, some of us reach ripe old ages before we find the emotional intelligence and where with all you obviously have in dealing with situations and interactions like this.xxx
He tried to break you down…but he DIDNT. That is a great realisation of two amazing things:that A.)there ARE actually creatures in this world that will try to DO THAT and B.) THEY CANT DO THAT TO YOU!
TOWANDA!!!!xxx
Maggie,
congratulations on getting your DIPLOMA on recognizing a sociopath at such a young age!!
You will now be much safer in the future.
I also applaud how you and your friends tricked him into revealing his psychopathic lies, I wish more of us could do that.BUT you also caused a “narcissistic injury”. You made him look bad. they don’t like that and will try to get even WAY OUT OF PROPORTION to what you did. That’s why he called you back and tried to lure you so intensely AFTER you blew his cover. Every time you go back they will be extra cruel. So cruel, in fact, that you will consider what he has done to you up til now, as mr. nice guy.
This guy has to be completely severed from your life. If necessary, if he continues to harrass you, call the cops. You need to be safe. I don’t want to scare you because I don’t want to be like him. He WANTS your emotions, he eats them for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I only want you to be aware, alert and informed. I want you to have P-radar.
*I need to clarify that I decided that about ten years ago. I divorced him.
I just had my first experience. Short lived but long enough to shatter me to pieces. Met online. He was handsome successful confident. Larger than life. Thought I’d hit the jackpot. He says all of his exes were crazy and selfish. He’s been through many relationships, though short in nature. He said some sick things to me and mentioned doing sexual things in inappropriate places. I watched him mock everyone like he was toying with them. I had never seen anyone do this before. Like people were his entertainment. Everyone from waitresses, friends and to his own family. He was charismatic, sexier, smarter then anyone I ever met. But I knew in my gut there was something wrong and ignored the red flags. His family even warned me about him. I remember he would turn mean after being imtimate and say things that were rude and out of no where. It was like he was sweet one minute and then nasty. He told me he didn’t feel guilt! It’s like I was looking into the eyes of the devil. I’ve dated a lot but never had anyone unravel me and and second guess myself like this person. He said I was selfish and everything is all about me and maybe we would work out if I payed a llttle more attention to him and how much he does and how hard he works and that he needed someone more supportive. The stange thing was we weren’t even in a commited relationship? I knew that he has to have some mental disorder and then I researched and found out about sociopathy and the light bulb went off. It all makes sense now. My friends don’t understand. I started seeing a therapist and I am still dealing wreckage this man has caused in my mind. It’s like he’s my drug. I want more, I want to please him and show him how wonderful I can be. It’s so sick. I can’t imagine spending years with someone like this and the long term damage they can cause. Bless you all.
JBizzy, I’m so sorry that happened to you. It is SO disorienting. But kuddos to you for recognizing so relatively quickly that something was off, and for PAYING ATTENTION to those red flags. It shows that you are basically a mentally healthy person and are just reeling from the shock of having your normal, healthy ways of relating to someone go so horribly awry. Of course you want more and want to please him….it isn’t sick, it is what we do in NORMAL relationships when we bond with someone, and there was nothing not working about your ability to bond. You bonded! But because you bonded with someone who routinely betrays love and returns evil in exchange, (an agenda that is not clear to you at the start) you are feeling all disoriented! And like it is sick. HE is sick. So the interactions become sick.
I want to please my husband and will change for him, etc….but he tells me he loves me just as I am, so the bonding just bonds us and causes no problems!
It is my belief that it is very hard for even the most mentally healthy person to get off scott free from these creeps, or to be able to recognize them much sooner than you did, without some prior education, and even then it is often DAMN HARD!
You will be okay. Just have NO MORE CONTACT…..and you will heal. Bless you too.
It’s really hard. He dumped me (via text) out of no where like I was yesterdays trash. I assume he got bored and moved on to his next victim. I worry about the women he comes into contact with in the future. I don’t want anyone else to hurt like me. He put me in such a deep dark place and I saw things that I can’t even repeat. But he is not someone to be messed with. He is the type that would ruin your life if you mess with him. Will he contact me? Should I be prepared? I am worried I will contact him.
JBizzy,
He sounds exactly like my eXP, he might contact you. Hopefully, he doesn’t think you have money. Without money, all he wants is emotions. Don’t give him any. Bore him to death. Respond in a monotone. Tell him you’ve joined a monastery and have found the Buddha.
I’m glad you noticed the red flags, but I think that without the internet, you might never have figured out what it was.
When I met my P there was no internet and only one book at the library on this subject. (that I could find)
The red flags DO go up at the beginning but if you can’t reconcile the lies with the truth, then it all starts to melt into one big whitewash and before you know it you are hypnotized in a sea of emotions. Thank God for the internet and LF. 25 years later is better than never.
Skylar,
Thanks for your reply. He has plenty of money. I think he enjoys toying with human emotions and manipulating and diminshing people. He is obsessed with making more money which then means he can impress and control more people. All mine really wanted was a servant and someone to worship him. But that wasnt enough, you’d have to be a frickin mind reader to know he wants and needs everyday.
I am working with my therapist on acknowledging the red flags from the beginning. But you are right, its almost like its too late and you are in a hypnotic state and hooked.
How long have you been without yours? I can’t imagine not having the internet. I would have thought that I’ve gone mad. Because you try and try to analyze why are they behaving this way, why dont they care? And you feel devalued. At least there are answers now and you can attempt to move to forward. How are you doing?
Oxy: “Those of us who have “lost” children know the pain that comes from accepting that your children that you bore and love do not love you back, that they are not capable of returning that love.”
You know, Oxy, this is the ultimate kick in the head. We can dump the P hubs, but the kids…well, you know that’s the hardest. We have put our all in our kids…and when they turn out evil…it just about finishes us off. But, I would still rather know I did what was right, to the best of my ability then to be the one doing the evil. This gives me great comfort and allows me to be happy, at peace and move forward.
I had to text with my PX Friday over taxes….and he sarcastically said: “ok, little angel.” Instead of being upset, I simply ended the brief exchange with “I am so glad you finally are admitting I am an angel.” This was my parting shot…as the required contact over taxes was ended and I had nothing else to say and was not going to engage. [I didn’t want contact but he was calling from the tax office…they had the taxes messed up and his was still with mine.]
Jbizzy,
It’s been 4 months now since I ran from the P.
Oh crap, he’s calling now. Not answering. too much to do today…
You are so lucky that you only sacrificed 2 months to this difficult life lesson. I noticed his lies from the first. I don’t even remember what lies they were, which is strange, but I remember thinking: wow, how can someone lie sooooo much all the time? I wish I could remember how I knew he was lying, but I don’t. I can’t remember one single lie. I just remember that I was compelled to go to the library and find a book about liars. That’s when I found, “People of the Lie” by Scott Peck. It’s a good book, but Dr. Peck made it sound like these people were rare and that they were evil so I thought, surely if I saw one I would immediately recognize the horns and tail – right? no.
During that time I was slipping further and further into neverneverland so that with time, I noticed less and less BS. All I saw was how extraordinary he was. He also kept up the pity ploy, telling me that he felt sick to his stomach all the time and thought he might have cancer. I would go to work crying everyday at the thought of it.
The other thing he would say is that he was worried he might have AIDs because he knew so many women before me. There is always a kernal of truth in every lie: he had known so many men AND women and probably pigs and cows and sheep too.
But the purpose in telling me was gaslighting, making me fear. There was also another motive: to brag about his sexual prowess, to say that he had been with so many women because he could.
That’s the thing about my XP, he usually has multiple objectives for every little thing he does or says. I guess he’s a multi-tasker 😛