Editor’s note: The following was posted as a comment by the Lovefraud reader “Zootowngirl.” She eloquently expressed ideas that many other readers can certainly understand.
I read the articles and comments posted on Lovefraud.com and I see my life, or parts of it, described over and over again. I see things my ex did (or didn’t do) written in the words of other people. I see myself in their stories. Often I find myself thinking, “Thank God my experience wasn’t that bad or that long,” and other times I nod my head in silent, humiliated understanding that comes with first hand knowledge of the horror stories people share.
My ex has the most beautiful soul. He is kind and compassionate and loving. He is the most thrilling person I’ve ever known. Until he’s not. When he’s upset or inconvenienced or, God forbid, angry, he turns into someone cold and hostile. His comments are scathing, filled with razor sharp words that open veins in my heart and leave me gasping at the pain. He is a master at flaying open my emotions and then disavowing any responsibility or ill intent. He used to tell me that I didn’t understand what he meant, that I was hysterical, or that I twisted his meaning for my own passive aggressive purposes. Maybe I was passive aggressive. Never mind the “maybe.” I was passive aggressive. That’s what happens when I can’t ask for what I need without being rejected or ridiculed or told that I am selfish for expecting something from him. I’d like to blame him for it but I’m the boss of me. I’m the one who made the choice to be passive aggressive. I have to own that. And I have to own that I still don’t fully fathom the impact he’s had on me.
I’m an addict.
I’m addicted to him.
I’m addicted to the way I feel when I’m with him the good, not the bad, though sometimes I believe I would accept the bad in order to also have the good. Maybe, possibly, if I’m just good enough and try hard enough and all the stars are aligned then maybe I’ll get some of the good. He’s so misunderstood, you see? He tells me so and so I have to believe that I’m just not giving him enough credit or being fair or being realistic. And he has ”legitimate excuses” for everything he does or doesn’t do. He was depressed. Then there was the physical pain: his elbow, his back, his guts. Then there was the dizziness that came and went, sometimes confining him to bed with the remote and sometimes miraculously disappearing just when something entertaining was planned. Then there was the encroachment of his privacy after we had to get roommates in order to help pay the rent because we only had my disability income to live on and all the money left to me by my father was gone at last. Then there were the accusations of flirting and disloyalty on my part that made him sad and sent him back into that depression. Then there was the day he called me a “stupid f*cking c*nt” and told me that he “deserved better from the woman who supposedly loved him.” Except I wasn’t supposed to internalize those words because he was just processing his thoughts about the anger he’d felt over something trivial and thought he could share that processing with me. But he didn’t explain that he was recalling his thoughts or just processing them and wondering why he’d thought and felt those things. He just said the words aloud and left me to sit with them for 2 weeks and then, when I finally broke down in tears over them said, “What?! Oh God! I was just describing what I felt at the time! Not what I think of you!” and the logic of that escaped me because the words had had 2 weeks to sit inside of me, carving themselves into my cells. Eight months later, they still echo in my head almost every hour of every day. But I’m not allowed to be hurt or be upset by them because, of course, they’re not true. He was just processing his feelings. I’m supposed to be glad he did that, right? That’s what women want, right? A man who will process his feelings with her.
I’m addicted to the memory of him when he was in a good mood and loved me.
I’m addicted to the energy and space he took up in every place we were together.
I was addicted to the constant texting and phone calls that happened before we lived together and the roller coaster drama of trying to prove that he should choose me and not that other woman because she’s a liar and a cheat while I’m faithful and devoted and loyal and dedicated no matter what he does or says or what promises he broke in the 3 years before we lived together.
I was addicted to proving that I’m good enough and that I can accept and forgive and love him unconditionally while he spent time trying to decide between us, despite having gone back on his assurance that he was going to give her up and come be with me a half dozen times or more.
I was addicted to putting him back together after she chewed him up and spit him out and to being his best friend while he agonized over how much she hurt him and to being the woman he turned at last to because he suddenly realized that I’m the right choice and I’m the perfect person for him.
I was addicted to riding out his struggle with commitment and his inability to plan for the future because so many other women have hurt him and left him and devastated him.
I was addicted to proving to him that I’ll stand by him always, no matter the hardship, no matter the tests he throws my way, no matter the pain he causes.
I was addicted to martyring myself to his cause, to being the true blue girl in his life.
I’m addicted to him the way a child is perversely compelled to continuing to love the father that abused her and the mother that abandoned her, always going back for more, always desperate to prove she is worthy of their love because she thinks that if she just loves well enough or loves the right way then love won’t continue to hurt her the way it does now.
I’m addicted to continuing to send messages to his phone from my email. He makes unfair statements and I get angry and find myself glad that I broke up with him and just when I start to think I did the right thing he lifts me up with loving words and apologies and I sob over the fact that I’m the horrible person who “destroyed his life”
I’m addicted to the way he says, “It was my fault for not loving you well enough baby,” as if somehow that love will seep into me from the computer screen and make it possible for me to trust myself again ”¦ after so many do-overs and so many 2nd chances that the idea of it only being a “second” chance is laughable. More like a 30th or 40th chance.
I’m addicted to being able to tell him exactly how much pain he caused me without any immediate consequence and watching his apologies and regret appear in my chat window ”¦ knowing that he’ll manage to turn things around so they become guilt trips rather than accountability ”¦ and praying that it won’t happen because that might be a sign from God that he’s sincerely sorry and things would be different this time. This 41st second chance.
I’m addicted to apologizing ”¦ to feeling guilty ”¦ to punishing myself ”¦ to hating myself for ending our relationship ”¦ for ending my dream ”¦ so that he’ll understand that I really did love him. I just have to love him from a distance now because I can’t live in a home where both of us hate me. It’s painful enough that I hate myself for not being good enough for him, that I hate my inadequacy and my inability to live up to even his most basic expectations.
I’m addicted to reminding myself that he almost punched me in the face once, to reminding myself that that is reason enough to have left him. And I’m addicted to being angry at him because he says, “But I didn’t actually hit you!” I’m angry at him for that because it’s the lamest response I can think of to an act of aggression that could have turned into an act of violence. And I’m angry because I’m addicted to telling myself, “It could have been worse. So many people have it so much worse. Just let it go. He didn’t actually hit you.”
I’m addicted to trying to take less responsibility for the way my life turned out ”¦ to blaming him for what hurts me. And I’m addicted to being angry at myself for the way my life turned out ”¦ and angry at myself for blaming him for what hurts me. I’m addicted to that anger because I’m accountable for myself and my life and for what I allow ”¦ and no matter how much I felt like I loved him ”¦ I was supposed to love myself first and best and I didn’t.
I’m addicted to my new reality ”¦ the reality in which nothing seems right without that drama and chaos even though this calm, quiet, peaceful life is healthier and safer and more trustworthy. Even though this life is beautiful. And I’m angry at myself for this particular addiction more than anything else.
That’s how I know I’m an addict. I’m a co-dependent, enabling, door mat of an addict.
Because when I say that I miss the way I felt when I was with him ”¦ I know that’s my addiction doing the talking.
Because when I’m honest with myself I can say that most days I felt desperate to prove to him that I was worthy of his notice.
Most days I felt like a piece of worthless garbage.
Most days I felt like I was a stupid f*cking c*nt and that he deserved better than me.
And that may not be entirely his fault ”¦ because I participated.
But most days I felt incapable of being anything other than that worthless piece of garbage and I don’t know how someone who “supposedly” loved me could not see that there was something wrong.
I know I’m an addict ”¦ because I was willingly living on scraps ”¦”¦ and I was starving ”¦ and it was killing me ”¦ and I miss that feeling of dying.
Its amazing to see the very very same thing happen to so many of us….must be part of our spiritual evolution!!!
I just finished reading a book called “The Forty Rules Of Love” by Elif Shafak…. I loved it….
zootowngirl,
I am so glad you survived your recent near-miss!
The thing about getting to where the horrible pain is far enough in the past is that then we addicts get a little complacent and pick up the pipe again. “I’m steady on my feet, I can handle it this time… bla bla bla”
That man is clearly very sick.
If I may be so bold:
You do not love him, you got hypnotized by something. By our evolution/God-created wiring, by some aberrant gift that that guy has, and by the close overlapping relationship between pity (for him) and tenderness. And simply by his lies.
As long as you stay no contact, you will slowly get closer and closer to the old normal. Keep doing what you have been doing since thinking of the daisies and potatoes. You write really well, imo… maybe more writing will help.
Louise!
I am glad you have found a counselor! I don’t know your full story, only that some creep Brit lost his job and you approached him onced on linkedin. If that’s all you did, that’s not stalking. It’s someone an unscrupulous person might twist into stalking, which is why not to do it ever again. I saw that many people here were excited by your vindication and were curious, like you were, about the details. *I* was curious as I read. Your learning the details was being cast in a positive light. I see little shame in being influenced by that. You also had some old feelings resurrected briefly. You picked up the pipe and it immediately bit you on the hand. To mix metaphors.
I know you feel humiliated by that guy’s response on linked in. He’s just one guy. And a loser who lost his job because he was a problem worker and problem human being and a big f***ing liar liar liar. His judgment and opinion is just one defective person’s.
You can’t know if that idiot hates you or needs the idiot ow for something and is scared to have her see he connected to you, or if he doesn’t care at all. You will have to release that from your fists into the wind. The answers might come back to you some day when you are past caring, or never.
I am a major anglophile. Who knew there were scum in England? Oh yeah: the soccer fans, the colonialists, the skinheads. I guess we did know. Is there any possibility that some of his appeal to you was the accent? While his would not have been upscale, it would appeal to many of us Americans because we either have many of the accents merged in our minds, or we associate the Manchester/Liverpool whatever sound with appealing things like the Beatles. Perhaps if you ponder that, it might help you step back and see some of the illusion behind his appeal to you…….?
Those people are gross, Louise — the scousepath and the gross ow. You don’t want their stink all over you.
Like Z, the more time that elapsed since this last minor blip, the more solid you will feel and the more happy moments you will have every day.
Be grateful he is not polluting your lanscape daily any more —
Z and Louise, both!
It really is like being hypnotized or drugged and it’s more. These spaths are skilled surgeons who lance our old infected childhood wounds.
Skylar said something to me early on that is burned into my brain and heart….she said:
” His inner child called out to your inner child and your inner child answered”. I thought that was so profound. It still makes me tear up when I type the words.
Yes, for me…it took this. I HATE the MF’er, I detest him. I’d like him to drown in his own filth and pull his sick emotionally incestuous Spath mother down the drain with him. However, I do see what my part was in all of this,,,,,,why I had a bullseye on my forehead from day one. Why I was ripe fruit ready for the picking and the reasons are many.
raggedy ann:
Wow, you really hit on some good points that opened my eyes. I didn’t think about him not wanting OW to see him connected to me on LinkedIn. At the time I invited him, she was not a connection to him yet on there, but he probably had it in his mind. And yes, there is way more to the story than me just trying to connect with him on there. There is a three year history of junk. Him pursuing me, me leaving my job because of him, him still keeping me on the line for a long time and then slowly pushing me out of the picture. Now the final discard from him.
As far as details (if anyone cares)…I believe I got the details wrong the first time. If this is true, this is what he was doing…he was having his subordinates put their drinking outings (where he was present) on THEIR corporate credit cards and then because he is their boss, he was approving the charges! Wow, that right there makes me lose feelings for him…how dishonest is that!! He KNEW he was not allowed to do it and was doing it anyway (IF this is true; don’t know for sure). The company does audits on the expense reports and that is probably how he got caught. That just goes to show how entitled he had become…just got a huge promotion eight months before being canned. It all went to his head. I also heard he is DIVORCED now. Wow…never thought that would happen and he didn’t come back for me so as much as it hurts like hell, it is acceptance. He just doesn’t want me despite telling me he did. So, we all know how they lie to get what they want. His lies and manipulations have turned his life into a complete shambles. No job, divorced, alcoholic. And this was a guy who had it all. Pathetic. Yay for me…I am FINALLY starting to see him as pathetic instead of loving him. The Nirvana of Indifference is getting here.
I am a major anglophile also and yes, I KNOW the accent was a HUGE, HUGE thing for me. He sounds beautiful, he really does, but it’s a cover for all his vileness. He has a tic, too. I AM going to step back and ponder the accent. I tried to in the past as I knew that must be a factor, but I was so caught up in it, it was hard to see the forest for the trees. I block out accents now…it’s a way to deal with my pain. I turn the TV station or the radio station if I hear it. I have to protect myself.
Right…I am tired of having their stink on me. They are both very disordered people and I am going to heal. I am getting past feeling hurt because they may hook up…especially if he is divorced now. He will NEVER be true to her anyway so why should I be upset?? Her life will be miserable. Her dream will turn into a nightmare.
Yes, this was a minor set back AGAIN. This is why No Contact is so important. It brings us down every time and then we have to get up over and over again. No more. That was it for me. I have done this WAY too many times.
I like how you said the answers may come back to me some day. This has happened to me before in my life. I have found out things years and years later about things that had happened and you know what I discovered?? It wasn’t about me…it was about THEM and the things THEY were going through at the time that made them treat me the way they did. So thanks for that reminder. 🙂
Louise, just use any of those ideas to get yourself out of your spiral. Just watch out for that feeling of complacency that comes from feeling fine for a nice while. I just mean always remember now that you can’t pick up that pipe! Ever again. It will bite you and germ you up and stink up your skin and teleport you back to a really awful square one. And you are at square seventy five as we speak! The pipe isn’t even pretty and the drugs in it are toxic adulterated street shit. Of course you don’t want that pipe if the drugs in it are pure either…
And you are very welcome. 🙂
raggedy ann:
Thanks. I know I idealized him and that damn accent. I got so very caught up in all that entailed with him being European, etc. The man of my dreams…yeah, right…the man of my nightmares who ruined my life. Temporarily. Only temporarily. I used to think of it forever, but no more. See, I am moving in the right direction. I can never pick up that pipe again, you are right. There does come an end and I am there.
raggedy ann:
Yep, he apparently still needs the OW for something and I think that something is sex. Or she is great supply.
ToBeFree!!!! Yea! I was really hoping you would read that. It got to me really deep,,,,,,the futility of these men, the illusion. It’s all smoke and mirrors and it is SO HARD TO SEE CLEARLY when you are still entrenched and entangled with them. They create the exact dynamics within the “relationship” to KEEP you entrenched too. They don’t want you to get your feet back under you or for your head to clear! In one way or another, every time you come up for air they push you back under the water. Demons! Twisted, fractured and very dangerous to your well being.
I’m telling you…..at the end of this mess, the end of the year…..I was as close to suicidal as I ever want to be. Horror show. I see so much now that I was unable to see while he still had his fangs in my neck.
Someone get me a steak!!
Thanks Zootowngirl,
So many things you said make sense to me. The model that we learned in childhood, as you said…
” love equals suffering.”
So very true. I felt like I had come home in some deep and sick way. The spath in my life, perfectly modeled the fear, betrayal and total unpredictability of the relationship I had with my Father. I never had healthy love as a child. Pattern repeated, and this time with such intense sharpness that it cut into my soul with razor like precision.
For so long, I really thought my love for him was real. But it was only addiction. I still do not like that truth. This statement from you drives it home…
“..I miss the high of him, the feeling of desire…”
That is what I miss, that is what I thought was love…the intensity I felt for him. My sick need to be with a man whose dominant presense filled me up…the emptiness that was still there within me, that I was unaware of.
How telling of the importance of NC. I was unable to release the illusion, the spell I was under, while I was still allowing his energy/presense in my life. So amazing…the power that a spath has to brainwash a target. No one can have power over me without my assistance. My little inner girl helped him everyday. Helped him dig her grave. I am still in turmoil…still so much healing to do….and yet, so grateful that I finally took her away from spath and her certain destruction.
Thx to you ZTG, lovely post!
Blue
Raggedy, you say to Louise: ”I saw that many people here were excited by your vindication and were curious, like you were, about the details. *I* was curious as I read. Your learning the details was being cast in a positive light. I see little shame in being influenced by that.”
Correct, some posters , myself included, were happy for Louise that her ex had been fired, as the general hope was that the firing might give her a sense of closure, which she has been seeking. If you check the posts that were written at that time by me, you will see that I advised Louise to get the facts from a trusted friend – one conversation – and then to return to strict no contact , as there was clearly a danger that any contact, even online or third party, was not going to be helpful for Louise.
I take issue with your line ”Your learning the details was being cast in a positive light. I see little shame in being influenced by that.”
Many posters here care for Louise and want her to recover form this experience. Noone here ”influenced” Louise to make direct contact with her ex, and I rather resent that inference. Clearly, that was going to almost inevitably lead to Louise feeling further distress.
EDIT ADD On a lighter note, England has as many disordered people to offer the world as any other country. We’re all just people. Whatever patch of this earth we happen to have been born upon.