Editor’s note: The following was posted as a comment by the Lovefraud reader “Zootowngirl.” She eloquently expressed ideas that many other readers can certainly understand.
I read the articles and comments posted on Lovefraud.com and I see my life, or parts of it, described over and over again. I see things my ex did (or didn’t do) written in the words of other people. I see myself in their stories. Often I find myself thinking, “Thank God my experience wasn’t that bad or that long,” and other times I nod my head in silent, humiliated understanding that comes with first hand knowledge of the horror stories people share.
My ex has the most beautiful soul. He is kind and compassionate and loving. He is the most thrilling person I’ve ever known. Until he’s not. When he’s upset or inconvenienced or, God forbid, angry, he turns into someone cold and hostile. His comments are scathing, filled with razor sharp words that open veins in my heart and leave me gasping at the pain. He is a master at flaying open my emotions and then disavowing any responsibility or ill intent. He used to tell me that I didn’t understand what he meant, that I was hysterical, or that I twisted his meaning for my own passive aggressive purposes. Maybe I was passive aggressive. Never mind the “maybe.” I was passive aggressive. That’s what happens when I can’t ask for what I need without being rejected or ridiculed or told that I am selfish for expecting something from him. I’d like to blame him for it but I’m the boss of me. I’m the one who made the choice to be passive aggressive. I have to own that. And I have to own that I still don’t fully fathom the impact he’s had on me.
I’m an addict.
I’m addicted to him.
I’m addicted to the way I feel when I’m with him the good, not the bad, though sometimes I believe I would accept the bad in order to also have the good. Maybe, possibly, if I’m just good enough and try hard enough and all the stars are aligned then maybe I’ll get some of the good. He’s so misunderstood, you see? He tells me so and so I have to believe that I’m just not giving him enough credit or being fair or being realistic. And he has ”legitimate excuses” for everything he does or doesn’t do. He was depressed. Then there was the physical pain: his elbow, his back, his guts. Then there was the dizziness that came and went, sometimes confining him to bed with the remote and sometimes miraculously disappearing just when something entertaining was planned. Then there was the encroachment of his privacy after we had to get roommates in order to help pay the rent because we only had my disability income to live on and all the money left to me by my father was gone at last. Then there were the accusations of flirting and disloyalty on my part that made him sad and sent him back into that depression. Then there was the day he called me a “stupid f*cking c*nt” and told me that he “deserved better from the woman who supposedly loved him.” Except I wasn’t supposed to internalize those words because he was just processing his thoughts about the anger he’d felt over something trivial and thought he could share that processing with me. But he didn’t explain that he was recalling his thoughts or just processing them and wondering why he’d thought and felt those things. He just said the words aloud and left me to sit with them for 2 weeks and then, when I finally broke down in tears over them said, “What?! Oh God! I was just describing what I felt at the time! Not what I think of you!” and the logic of that escaped me because the words had had 2 weeks to sit inside of me, carving themselves into my cells. Eight months later, they still echo in my head almost every hour of every day. But I’m not allowed to be hurt or be upset by them because, of course, they’re not true. He was just processing his feelings. I’m supposed to be glad he did that, right? That’s what women want, right? A man who will process his feelings with her.
I’m addicted to the memory of him when he was in a good mood and loved me.
I’m addicted to the energy and space he took up in every place we were together.
I was addicted to the constant texting and phone calls that happened before we lived together and the roller coaster drama of trying to prove that he should choose me and not that other woman because she’s a liar and a cheat while I’m faithful and devoted and loyal and dedicated no matter what he does or says or what promises he broke in the 3 years before we lived together.
I was addicted to proving that I’m good enough and that I can accept and forgive and love him unconditionally while he spent time trying to decide between us, despite having gone back on his assurance that he was going to give her up and come be with me a half dozen times or more.
I was addicted to putting him back together after she chewed him up and spit him out and to being his best friend while he agonized over how much she hurt him and to being the woman he turned at last to because he suddenly realized that I’m the right choice and I’m the perfect person for him.
I was addicted to riding out his struggle with commitment and his inability to plan for the future because so many other women have hurt him and left him and devastated him.
I was addicted to proving to him that I’ll stand by him always, no matter the hardship, no matter the tests he throws my way, no matter the pain he causes.
I was addicted to martyring myself to his cause, to being the true blue girl in his life.
I’m addicted to him the way a child is perversely compelled to continuing to love the father that abused her and the mother that abandoned her, always going back for more, always desperate to prove she is worthy of their love because she thinks that if she just loves well enough or loves the right way then love won’t continue to hurt her the way it does now.
I’m addicted to continuing to send messages to his phone from my email. He makes unfair statements and I get angry and find myself glad that I broke up with him and just when I start to think I did the right thing he lifts me up with loving words and apologies and I sob over the fact that I’m the horrible person who “destroyed his life”
I’m addicted to the way he says, “It was my fault for not loving you well enough baby,” as if somehow that love will seep into me from the computer screen and make it possible for me to trust myself again ”¦ after so many do-overs and so many 2nd chances that the idea of it only being a “second” chance is laughable. More like a 30th or 40th chance.
I’m addicted to being able to tell him exactly how much pain he caused me without any immediate consequence and watching his apologies and regret appear in my chat window ”¦ knowing that he’ll manage to turn things around so they become guilt trips rather than accountability ”¦ and praying that it won’t happen because that might be a sign from God that he’s sincerely sorry and things would be different this time. This 41st second chance.
I’m addicted to apologizing ”¦ to feeling guilty ”¦ to punishing myself ”¦ to hating myself for ending our relationship ”¦ for ending my dream ”¦ so that he’ll understand that I really did love him. I just have to love him from a distance now because I can’t live in a home where both of us hate me. It’s painful enough that I hate myself for not being good enough for him, that I hate my inadequacy and my inability to live up to even his most basic expectations.
I’m addicted to reminding myself that he almost punched me in the face once, to reminding myself that that is reason enough to have left him. And I’m addicted to being angry at him because he says, “But I didn’t actually hit you!” I’m angry at him for that because it’s the lamest response I can think of to an act of aggression that could have turned into an act of violence. And I’m angry because I’m addicted to telling myself, “It could have been worse. So many people have it so much worse. Just let it go. He didn’t actually hit you.”
I’m addicted to trying to take less responsibility for the way my life turned out ”¦ to blaming him for what hurts me. And I’m addicted to being angry at myself for the way my life turned out ”¦ and angry at myself for blaming him for what hurts me. I’m addicted to that anger because I’m accountable for myself and my life and for what I allow ”¦ and no matter how much I felt like I loved him ”¦ I was supposed to love myself first and best and I didn’t.
I’m addicted to my new reality ”¦ the reality in which nothing seems right without that drama and chaos even though this calm, quiet, peaceful life is healthier and safer and more trustworthy. Even though this life is beautiful. And I’m angry at myself for this particular addiction more than anything else.
That’s how I know I’m an addict. I’m a co-dependent, enabling, door mat of an addict.
Because when I say that I miss the way I felt when I was with him ”¦ I know that’s my addiction doing the talking.
Because when I’m honest with myself I can say that most days I felt desperate to prove to him that I was worthy of his notice.
Most days I felt like a piece of worthless garbage.
Most days I felt like I was a stupid f*cking c*nt and that he deserved better than me.
And that may not be entirely his fault ”¦ because I participated.
But most days I felt incapable of being anything other than that worthless piece of garbage and I don’t know how someone who “supposedly” loved me could not see that there was something wrong.
I know I’m an addict ”¦ because I was willingly living on scraps ”¦”¦ and I was starving ”¦ and it was killing me ”¦ and I miss that feeling of dying.
Thank you for the words. I know you say that they will never change and will do the same to their next victim….but I keep going in circles about “what if it was me?” What if he does change for someone else? I don’t want him to be happy!!! He doesn’t deserve it while I suffer!! He had so much convincing evidence that it was ME!! But I knew that the accusations he made were not how I FELT inside! I FELT they were wrong!! But he claims he FELT he was right!! So who is right? Was I the crazy one? He was so adamant about it but I KNEW I wasn’t!! We’ve been apart for months and I know I feel stable…now…except today lol:)
TeaLight, I don’t understand the last part of what you are saying.
TeaLight, if a man has sex with a woman who is drunk and not in her right mind, isn’t that considered date rape? Or someone on drugs?
I guess I’m not following you.
Serenity
Please understand that the “P” that you love- can not change. There is another thread on here that says that in order for a person to truly change 6 criteria must take place.
Ladies help me out here…it’s something like…
there has to be 6-12 months of no negative behaviors
(can you really monitor every lie?)
There has to be a commitment to group and individual counseling
There has to be a desire for real change
The person has to admit fully his/her guilt
And the person has to make right all his/her victims
A DISORDERED PERSON CAN NOT DO THESE THINGS
they can pretend to, but really they can not change because they do not think that there is anything wrong with them. You on the other hand are prey and supply for his sick using self. Please udnerstand that we have all been where you are- this sounds harsh I know, but the truth will set you free. HE WILL SCREW OVER THE NEXT VICTIM, MAYBE NOT TOMORROW…BUT IT WILL HAPPEN.
So sorry for what you are going through.
Dorothy,
If I’m wrong Tea Light can correct me and explain it for both of us.But what I think she’s saying is that since some here are survivors of sexual assault,she prefers you didn’t use the term “rape” to refer to your experience with spath.
I can understand that opinion in some respects Tea Light.That has got to be very traumatic-I can’t even imagine.I can only understand what we’ve been through with spaths….because I’ve actually experienced it.But there’s more than one definition of rape.Most are familiar with the definition of it as sexual assault.But one definition is “the act of plundering with war”.Isn’t that what we’ve been through?!!!
Of course,when using the term rape,one should define WHICH TYPE-such as “emotional rape”.
Thank you Discovering… I just look at him in photo’s and I remember thinking when we first met as friends and co-workers that he’d have NO CHANCE (he was hitting on me constantly with a live in GF and a new baby) I mean he is shorter than me, not physically attractive, disorganized, irresponsible, and I remember thinking then 4 years ago that I would NEVER want to be with someone like that(lol I’m pretty tall so I typically look for taller men)….I felt STRONG and healthy and beautiful back then. I somehow got sucked in after one drunken night and this is where I am now? My life revolves around this and he’s claiming he’s moved on and for me to “get a life” He never loved me! He never cared! He HATES me. How do you begin to forgive yourself? I hate myself for dedicating the last four years to CONVINCING him of my love and loyalty. It just got worse and worse…and I got worse and worse… And in the end HE won’t talk to ME now because HE is assuming I was cheating???? I NEVER was with ANYONE at ALL!! Its so infuriating!! He’s such a coward to not face the truth! But now he’s ignoring me? He’s succeeding in making me feel so inferior and so small when I did NOTHING but look after him and help raise his child!!
Thanks for listening and the support:) I sure need it today and I’m so appreciative.
Serenity12,
Like you, I am 33 and still struggle with the devastation of knowing that all of my time (1.5 years) with the spath I survived was just a WASTE. It hurts so much to know that. And like you, I felt like I was in a happy, good place when I met him. And now I often feel very damaged. I have had no contact for over three months, but the healing process is slow. I know for a fact that he never loved me, because the lies he told me from the beginning and the way he cheated on me with multiple women prove that. And sometimes I still think that maybe he only lied to and cheated on ME, that maybe he was faithful to his two ex-wives (yeah, TWO ex-wives and he’s 34), and I sometimes wonder, like you do, if he’ll change for his new girlfriend, who he met behind my back, three months before he discarded me.
However, when I find myself sinking into horrible feelings of self-doubt and shame, I come to Lovefraud and read the stories of others, compare them to mine, and find that there are SO MANY similarities, and I realize that my own experience of the spath is REAL and TRUE and because of that, I can be SURE that he was NOT good to his ex-wives and he will NOT change for the new girlfriend. And although I am still reeling from the pain of being used and tossed aside by a person who did that JUST BECAUSE HE WANTED TO, I find a lot of comfort in knowing that he did those things to me because that is WHO HE IS, and he cannot change. He has a serious personality disorder, and he just CANNOT change. And knowing the truth of that makes it easier for me to continue moving toward acceptance of what has happened.
I don’t know if that helps you…I know that reading your posts and the posts of others certainly helps me!
Take care,
Laura
Serenity
You said,
” I just look at him in photo’s and I remember thinking when we first met as friends and co-workers that he’d have NO CHANCE (he was hitting on me constantly with a live in GF and a new baby) I mean he is shorter than me, not physically attractive, disorganized, irresponsible, and I remember thinking then 4 years ago that I would NEVER want to be with someone like that(lol I’m pretty tall so I typically look for taller men)”.I felt STRONG and healthy and beautiful back then.
AND YOU WILL AGAIN
I somehow got sucked in after one drunken night and this is where I am now?
You were a challenge for him and once you gave in to him, he was able to begin the next phase- devalue and discard.
My life revolves around this
It’s an addiction, the longer you are away from him the better things will get- it’s also the hardest thing you will ever have to do.
and he’s claiming he’s moved on and for me to “get a life” He never loved me! He never cared! He HATES me.
He doesn’t have the capacity for true love- I believe the only true feelings they have are anger and possibly fear of losing control.
How do you begin to forgive yourself? I hate myself for dedicating the last four years to CONVINCING him of my love and loyalty.
It just got worse and worse”and I got worse and worse”
Sadly, we become the ones who seem disordered. You are probably suffering from
Cognitive dissonance-
And in the end HE won’t talk to ME now because HE is assuming I was cheating????
No he is not assuming, this is projection, he is accusing you of what he did. It’s also a “tell”, he was telling you what he did.
I NEVER was with ANYONE at ALL!! Its so infuriating!!
He’s such a coward to not face the truth! But now he’s ignoring me?
Ignoring you is either trying to control you or is part of him discarding you as you have no use to him any more.
He’s succeeding in making me feel so inferior and so small when I did NOTHING but look after him and help raise his child!!
Yes, again this is devaluing you. His making you feel inferior is his way of devaluing you so that you feel pain. They get off on it.
So sorry you had to meet us all like this, but we’re here for you. We can validate your pain and help guide you to understanding.
Be good to yourself
Thank you Laura and Discovering, it helps and I cut and copy when people reply to me into a word doc and I keep re-reading. I think of my friends and family that ask how I’m doing and ask thoughtful questions after listening to me and it reminds me that 99.9% of the people in my life are NOT like him. Thank you everyone today for taking the time to listen and respond thoughtfully and with love and empathy. I needed it today feeling so low…one day soon ill be a better listener and “advice giver” when I’m strong enough to stand on my own. The support on here is amazing. So many people at different stages of healing and there’s always someone at the exact stage or at a place where they can assure me ill be alright…I’m off to walk my dog on this first day of spring(although up here in Canada it’s still winter for 3 more months lol) But I’m going to go burn off some steam. Thank you thank you thank you for saving me today:)
Serenity,
Glad to hear you’re feeling better 🙂
I’m in upstate NY and we had 8″ of snow yesterday along with a little freezing rain- not much of a start for spring.
Yes, you’ll find everything you need here and if you don’t…just ask. Best to you, nite