Sociopaths, as a group, tend to be predatory personalities. But does the converse always hold? Are predatory personalities, by definition, sociopaths?
Is it possible to prey on innocent people, and victimize them, yet not be a sociopath?
I think the answer to this question is yes…it is possible to be a predator and not a sociopath, although let me state as strongly as possible that, sociopath or not, the predator’s exploitation is no less damaging.
How one defines the predatory personality makes a difference. For purposes of this discussion, here’s how I’m going to define it: The predatory personality recognizes (if not actively seeks) opportunities for personal gratification, and seizes those opportunities knowing full well that, in doing so, he or she will cause someone else to feel victimized.
This must be a pattern of behavior to constitute predation.
While hardly comprehensive, this will be my working definition.
Predatory behavior can be driven by compulsion, but not all predatory behavior is compulsively driven. When it’s not, as a matter of fact, I think that sociopathy is a virtual given.
Compulsion can be a driving feature of predatory behavior. And many of us can attest personally to the power of compulsion. Compulsion is, by definition, an incredibly hard force to resist. When we feel compelled to do something, even knowing it’s an unwise thing to do, we often do it anyway…and sometimes again and again. Resistance to the compulsive urge proves enormously difficult.
We also know that sometimes, what “compels” us, at the same time violates our general standards and personal values (causing most of us, in these cases, internal disturbance).
This makes compulsion a quite fascinating experience, among other reasons for its seeming power to drive us to actions or thoughts that sometimes fly in the face of our self-respect, and sometimes respect for others.
Of course, not everyone who feels compulsively driven to perform self-violating or violating behaviors even has an underlying value system to be contravened. In these cases, I’d again suggest that sociopathy is likely to apply.
But things grow murkier in cases of individuals who, otherwise seeming to possess and adhere to reasonable moral standards, find themselves “compelled” to actions that profoundly transgress their standards—actions, especially, that leave a wake of victims in their trail.
Theoretically these may be cases where the urge to perpetrate the behavior—the compulsion itself—is so powerful that it’s as if it overrides and corrupts the standards the individual normally applies, and from which he or she draws his or her self-esteem.
In such cases, shame, self-contempt, guilt, and conscious or unconscious acts of penance can follow.
In August an interesting story broke in The New York Times headlined “Star Pediatrician Fights Accusations of Sex Abuse.” It concerned a pediatrician, researcher and writer, Melvin Levine, MD, who is recognized for his work on children’s learning styles and differences. Levine has written several popular psychology/education books on children, and his innovative research has been embraced by school districts across the country.
The front-page story (Aug. 6) reports that multiple former patients, either directly or else through their families—victims who could not possibly have known each other—alleged that, over a period of decades, Levine sexually molested them in the course of physical examinations he conducted with them alone.
Some of the accusations surfaced while Levine was still practicing, others later. None of the accusations, it turns out, was rigorously investigated, as a result of which Levine was never made professionally accountable at any point.
Levine has denied the allegations despite the fact that the complaints were spread across different states, over long stretches of time, contained virtually identical descriptions of his sexual abusiveness and, as noted, were made by disparate, disconnected patients. Thus, the probability of some sort of conspiracy to undermine him begs credulity.
Who, then, is Melvin Levine, MD, assuming the allegations are true and that, over a period of decades—as he was simultaneously contributing undeniably meaningful work to the better understanding and academic growth of children—he was also selecting some of them to sexually molest?
Is he, by definition, a sociopath? Certainly, if the accusations are true, he meets the criteria of a predator. But does this necessarily make him a sociopath?
I could be wrong, yet I can imagine that Melvin Levine falls into that category of individuals who find themselves in the throes of a compulsion that insists as if tyrannically on its expression. I can imagine that Melvin Levine has secretly despised himself from his first, and every subsequent, capitulation to his compulsion.
I can imagine that Melvin Levine has been filled, over the years, with a private self-mortification, believing himself to be incorrigibly corrupted and beyond help or forgiveness. And I can imagine that his good works—his career that, so oddly, has been devoted to the same children he’s abused—derived and evolved from a genuine need to contribute his talents to society in a meaningful way.
I can imagine that Dr. Levine has been living for decades in awful confusion, trying to reconcile his good, perhaps even admirable values,with behavior that’s made a shameful mockery of those values.
Of course, it’s possible that Melvin Levine is a sociopath, and that I’m giving him way too much credit. But I entertain the possibility that he isn’t; that instead, from the first time he indulged his compulsion, he began digging himself as if into a psychic hole of shame and self-corruption so deep and inescapable that, at some point, his survival came to depend on denial and lies and, of course, his capacity to compartmentalize.
Skepticism here is valid. Where do you draw the line? How about serial rapists? Or serial killers? After all, isn’t a monster a monster, regardless of the role compulsion plays in his or her deviance? Who cares what the diagnosis is, one can rightfully object! It’s the behavior that marks the man (or woman)!
I’ve merely scratched the surface of this discussion, and intend to continue it in a future post.
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2009 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
persephone says:
Has anyone had any experience of Ps acting together? I know a couple (male-female) who seem to cooperate as sexual predators.
Ps are quite capable of forming power alliances and do show loyalty for a time toward those with whom they have an alliance.
MSNBC last night told the story of two men who took over a chicken restaraunt at closing and tortured/shot 7 people, for no apparent reason. One of the men told a woman that they did this because they wanted to know what it was like. The woman said they told their story with glee and exhiloration. This is an example of the aberrant motives of Ps.
In the old criteria, “Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior” was a criteria for psychopathy. That was before we came to understand motives. The behavior is differently, not inadequately motivated. In the end it is pleasure or relief from pain/anxiety that motivates all behavior.
i really want to stress the point that predatory behavior, however compulsively driven, and however much power we accord compulsion, and whether we do or don’t describe a particular predator as a sociopath or something else–the predatory behavior itself, specifically its impact on the victim, is what’s most important; and its violating damage is in no way attenuated because I or someone else can pose the question, are all predators sociopaths?
I’m sure no one has misunderstood me on this point, but I wanted to be really clear about it. it may be interesting to parse diagnostic categories, etc, and from a treatment standpoint it may be important to know whether one is dealing with a sociopath or something else. But a predator is a predator, and his or her victims surely couldn’t give a rat’s *ss what his or her diagnosis is.
Yes, Steve, the diagnosis is unimportant to me.
If I am consciously aware that I am possibly being set up for exploitation, to be used for whatever reason said person wants to use me for, I’m history. Or I make tracks and the person becomes history to me.
I can contemplate, analyze the situation AFTER this person is gone from my life. I don’t waste my precious time or energy trying to figure them out while I’m somewhat involved with them. At the first sign of exploitation, or even inconsideration or disrespect, I confront and boot them out to the curb.
This self preserving action becomes easy once you have retained your self respect, your confidence in who you are as a good person, realized that you most certainly deserve to be treated well as you treat others.
To me, a predator is a predator as a duck is a duck. I won’t be wasting anymore time, energy or sanity on these fiends ever again. Tis done and there it is.
Its’ great sstiles54 when I write something and others can relate!
It’s great when others can open up their hearts and find a shared connect with other members!
Which is what can be so sad and yet so confusing when one pass n by thinks they can hide behind words that are empty and shallow. Those that the world “pass-by” because being alpha is all they really want.
Those that the world “pass-by” pretend to ask questions but are really directing and controlling by those very questions asked in a deceitful and manipulating way . Those that the world “pass-by” who are passive aggressive plotting behind the scenes playing all alone to be honest and innocence and then when we come to understand them and they are caught will put on a face like an child stealing from the cookie jar.
Those that the world “pass-by” are play acting “I am the invisible man/woman” thinking we don’t see them for what they really are and will rage and blame us when we wish not to participate in this game they believe is so real for them.
Ironically, this isolation for Those that the world just “pass-by” that they do will feel from time to time. This isolation is a punishment they themselves imposed upon themselves through these very actions yet will blame all the world who will in the end just “pass-by” them. I can’t help but be sadden for all those that the world just “pass-by” but still knowing all the while they have in fact just did it to themselves. 🙁
Empathy isn’t just a word for all those that the world just passed by, it’s a way of life and learning which is way you will fail time and time again.
“Empathy isn’t just a word for all those that the world just passed by, it’s a way of life and learning which is way you will fail time and time again.”
Sorry typo: 8)
Empathy isn’t just a word for all those that the world just passed by, it’s a way of life and learning which is “why” you will fail time and time again.
Hey Rosa!!
I’ve got this huge CHILDISH crush on one of my art/fabrication production teachers!! He is AMAZING!! He is gentle and kind and has a genius mind, a great sense of humour and can do ANYtHING concerned with engineering and art and …well just whatever he puts his mind to! He treats me with respect and goes out of his way to help me and tells me to lighten up in a funny way when I get to serious and oh he is HOT!
But I am not gonna post myself to him! And I will NEVER be with him EVER!! Except to learn from in class.
But what is so fantastic Rosa is: that I actually have already moved on in the love stakes. You see, he has a great big nose and little eyes and he is not terribly tall and a big bum for a bloke…and I find him really SEXY!!! Which means I am totally over the ex P!
But he is the best teacher I have ever had and no doubt happily married, so I am just gonna check him out from a distance forevermore.
TOWANDA! I can fall in love again and its only been EIGHT MONTHS since the PSYCOPATH!
(It took me 8 years to get over the solicitor in that regard!!)
P.S. I know, I know, he may be a psychopath as I have only ever been with psychopaths so the chances are he is one, but hey, does it really matter since I’m never gonna be with him? And I’ve only got him for one more semester too. (not much time to devalue me..lol)
Dear Tilly , it is great to feel love again after such a terrible incident, and I do not want to play the “spoil-it-all”.
What came to my mind reading your entry: I do NOT hope he is the one who destroyed your artwork!
And you may yourself have a moment of thought about the uneven relationship between teacher-pupil, physician-patient, boss-secretary etc. It is not an even distribution of power. Just to think about. You are always with less power to start with in the relationship.
Take care! I wish you a sunny sunday!
Dear Tilly, sweetie, being “in love with” or “having a crush on” anyone doesn’t mean you are “over” the P, or that you even consider that person a possible “mate.” I have BIG CRUSHES on Henry, and James and Jim in Indy, but I will probably never meet these men, but that doesn’t mean I can’t have a “crush” on them!
I have BIG crushes on some of my son’s cute great friends, but they are 30 ior more yars younger than me, so the “soul mate” thing or “dating” is OUT with them, but that doesn’t mean I can appreciate how neat they are or how cute their butts are, or how sexy their eyes are! It simply means I am ALIVE and all my parts re in “working order” LOL ROTFLMAO. Of course if these cute youg men knew the old lady had a crush on them, they would die of embarassment, because they think kat their age that “sexy thoughts” are only for the young and beautiful—LITTLE DO THEY KNOW, NOW, but they will learn in another 30 years.
“Just cause there is snow on the roof, doesn’t mean there isn’t a fire in the hearth!”
At the same time, though, I am content to be “alone” because tehre is no one that I have a crush on that is “appropriate” for me, and there is no one that I have a crush on that has a crush on me! But that’s okay! LIFE IS GRAND and you can have a crush on anyone you like!!!! (((hugs))))
Yep:) I second that Oxy:)hee- heee! I think that secret crushes are a GRAND idea and the way to go – its a lot less complicated than dating ( I have tried that recently and it’s DEFFO too soon for me), a lot less worrying, and because my parts are still in good working order, especially my imagination, and I am alive with my fire still roaring away in the hearth, a crush can warm my cockles and put a smile on my face while still working through this stuff and enjoying being ‘alone’ right now and knowing that I have a way to go to get over the P/S:)Nothing wrong with crushes!! Hugs for Tilly!x