Sometimes I like to revisit, churn all over again, a prior concern around sociopathy. A number of colleagues were recently stressing the defective quality of empathy in the more sociopathic clients they work with, while I found myself stressing the quality of remorselessness in the more sociopathic clients with whom I work (and have worked).
In my view, remorselessness is a much more serious indicator of sociopathy than lack of empathy per se. I know I’ve stated this in previous pieces, but well”¦here I go all over again.
Many people lack empathy for a great many reasons, depending on how one even defines empathy. But clearly this is true—many of us have a relatively difficult time emotionally stepping into another’s shoes and genuinely, emotionally inhabiting (as it were) his or her experience; that is, feeling their experience with them, for them.
I’d venture to say that a rather high percentage of the general population fails pretty badly at meeting this pretty classical criterion to be considered “empathic.” Of course, nothing is black and white: sometimes we find ourselves experiencing empathy in surprising circumstances, almost unaccountably; otherwise, sensing that empathy is clearly indicated in certain situations, we might find ourselves in suprisingly, uncomfortably short supplies of it?
And so the experience of pure empathy eludes many of us, perhaps even the majority of us, often”¦more often than we might even want to admit.
However, remorselessness is a whole different kettle of fish. A typical case involving a nonsociopath goes like this. One partner, a good communicator, says to her husband, “What you said to me last night in front of our company was humiliating. You have no idea, I’m guessing, how much that hurt me and pissed me off. If you ever do that again, I swear I may never forgive you.”
Her husband, if he’s really honest, might say, “You know what? I really don’t have any idea. I didn’t see, and still don’t, why what I said was that big a deal. I was trying to be funny. I didn’t think you’d take it so personally.”
This husband, we might say, lacks empathy. We don’t even need to know what he said that aroused his wife’s ire to surmise that, here, in this example, taken from a couples session I facilitated recently, he is demonstrating less than optimal empathy.
But he also added, sincerely, “I’m sorry. I am. I’m sorry I hurt you so much. I won’t do that again.”
His wife was only somewhat appeased by his apology because, while it expressed remorse, it didn’t reflect much, if any, empathy. And she wanted more than remorse. She wanted empathy.
I believe it is entirely possible, even common, to express remorse, sincerely, even in the absence of empathically appreciating the impact of the original behavior for which you are expressing the remorse. This is because, if you are not a sociopath, you can really feel bad for hurting someone even without quite understanding why what you did was so hurtful.
Now, in the example above, the partner chastised for his previous night’s insensitivity could have responded differently, reacting to his wife’s feedback with, “You know what? Too damned bad. So you felt hurt? Well”¦get over it.”
This would be a response not only lacking in empathy but also in remorse. As an isolated, occasionally defensive, hostile response, it wouldn’t necessarily suggest the presence of sociopathy; but as a patterned kind of remorseless reaction it may very well signal the presence of sociopathic tendencies.
In the vast majority of cases, the relatively non-empathic individual reacts with some form of true remorse upon learning he or she has been experienced as damaging, even if it comes as a real, confusing surprise to learn this. Again, the typical response might be along the lines of, “Really? I had no idea.” (reflecting defective empathy) “But I’m really sorry. I didn’t mean to hurt you like that.” (reflecting remorse).
Where remorse is missing from acts that have been experienced as hurtful, we find ourselves in much more seriously disturbed territory. Sociopaths, of course, may feign remorse, although many times not. But feigned, shallow remorse—remorse that serves his self-interest, not yours—is worth less than no remorse.
A chronic theme of weak, or absent, remorse is thus much more indicative of the sociopathically oriented individual than the measure of his empathy. Oddly enough weak, or even sometimes missing, empathy, doesn’t necessarily preclude some form of meaningful connection with another (although it won’t be empathically-based).
But weak, or missing, remorse fatally does preclude such a connection, ensuring only the possibility of a damaging, exploitive experience.
(This article is copyrighted © 2011 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of male gender pronouns is for convenience’s sake only, not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the attitudes and behaiors discussed.)
Dear LL,
Get back into the NOW!!!! Get out of the past and the future. There is nothing there you need to think about with either one. NOW!!!!!
Ox,
UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok. I’ll work harder to focus.
This is damned hard WORK! I’m TIRED from all the effing WORK to pull myself up and out of this!!!
LL
dear LL, yep it is hard WORK, but it is the only way to make progress. Go back and read some of the articles in the archives under the various authors, READ READ READ LEARN LEARN LEARN and that will help you focus on healing yourself. It is like weight lifting to develop muscles, no strain, no gain.
LL,
reality check,
He’s not real. none of them are. They are people of the lie.
Sky,
Short and to the point.
Ox, I’m in a spiritual crisis. I feel so far from God. I don’t know how to pick up my faith again. There are parts of me that feel it, but I think exPOS exploited my faith as he was a professed Christian (theological bachelor’s degree, license to marry/bury), going to church every Sunday, etc. It meant nothing. one thing that dawned on me is that I recall having only ONE conversation the ENTIRE ten years that had anything to do with a spiritual conversation, He simply would not discuss it with me.
I’m really struggling. I really want to grab onto God and hold on, I just don’t know how. I feel far from Him and He from me.
HOw do I get my faith back? How do I put my trust in Him again and remove it from exPOS?
LL
Dear LL,
My egg donor also pretended to be such a “Christian”—church 3 times a week etc. and condemning anyone else who wasn’t as “holy” as she was….then I found out it was ALL A LIE, she was a lie and a LIAR!
All along I had not been able to reconcile her “you must forgive AND FORGET or you will go to hell even if the other person is still doing the bad things.” But After I saw WHAT A FAKER she was, just as Jesus saw what a faker the Scribes and Pharisees were who were the “holy men” of their day who pretended to be soooooo HOLY, BUT WERE FAKERS.
I read the story of Joseph in the Bible and King David. Joseph was sold into slavery unjustly by his brothers and he forgave them a long time before they showed up in Egypt to buy grain when he had become second only to the king, he FORGAVE them, by getting the bitterness out of his heart for what they did, but HE DID NOT TRUST THEM ONE WHIT. He did not reveal himself to them as their brother until he had TESTED THE HECK out of them to see what kind of men they had become since they had done to him those horrible things 20-30 years before. He saw that they had CHANGED and that they now realized what they did to him was terrible and hurt their father, and that they would NOW actually sacrifice their lives to protect their youngeer brother Benjamin so it would not hurt their father.
David, was a sinful man, did some pretty bad stuff including murder and adultery, but he was referred to as “a man after God’s own heart.” WHY??? Because he REPENTED –he accepted responsibility for his sins, was accountable and CHANGED HIS WAYS and made amends as best he could,, THAT was why he was a “man after God’s own heart.” God doesn’t require that we be perfect, he only wants us to be responsible and to REPENT for the bad things we have done in the past and change our ways.
My egg donor required that I be “perfect” to be “good enough” but GOD doesn’t require that I be perfect, only that I TRY MY BEST to do the things I know I should do. I am NOT perfect, I do things I should not, but I am WORKING ON DOING BETTER, that is all God requires of anyone in my humble opinion.
Joseph is a good example of us getting the bitterness against our abusers out of our hearts, but NOT BEING STOOPID TO TRUST THEM until we see what kind of men they have become.
As for David, he was pretty IM-PERFECT but he had a good heart and wanted to do right and took responsibility when he did wrong. That is what I try to do, that is ALL I can do because I will never be perfect, but I don’t have to BE perfect to be OKAY!
I started reading the Bible without the prejudices and ideas of my egg donor interpreting what I was reading, reading it like i had never seen it before and it makes a whole lot more sense now.
Ox,
What would be a good start in reading? I’ve not really read it a lot, if at all since exPOS. I’ve tried, but I just feel sickened picking up that bible.
He gave it to me. I think it has to go.
LL
LL, I would start with getting a nice copy of the New Testament with large type (easy to read) in one of the easier translations,, the King James has some words that are pretty “out dated” for our vocabularies, and maybe a follow along study guide of some non-denominational author. Talk to the people at a larger book store. Scot Peck’s book “People of the Lie” (he is both a Christian and an MD) is a good book as well, and his book “the Road less Traveled” is a good book and uplifting. Good luck and God Bless.
Genesis (meaning to be born) Chapter one verse one: In the beginning……
love
LL,
the 4 gospels are the heart of God’s message to us.
These are the gospels of the 4 apostles and they speak of Jesus’ teachings.
The reason I like these more than the rest of the Bible is because there are so many contradictions in the other books, and this leads to doubt.
When Jesus taught on earth, the pharasees tried to trick him all the time. They would ask him questions that seemed to have no correct answer, hoping to catch him in a contradiction. But they never could. He was impeccable, his logic and reasoning were irrefutable. The truth of his message strikes a chord in me for this reason.
For example, when they pharasees tried to get him to put his foot in his mouth by asking him if the Jews should pay taxes to the Romans, he asked them to look at the coins and tell him whose image was on them. They replied, “Cesar”. And he said, “Give to Cesar, what is Cesar’s and give to God what is God’s”
Can you get any more perfect than that?
LL,
you are God’s child. Give Him yourself. You can do that now that you no longer give yourself to spath. Spaths are false idols that demand us to worship them. That’s what make them so evil.
I soooo agree with Oxy to read, People of the Lie. Really excellent book.