Editor’s note: How can one woman cope with cheating, abandonment, cruelty and worse? A Lovefraud reader has sent the following letter, and would appreciate your insight and advice.
I was the perfect victim for the man who has fathered two of my children, having just gotten out of a relationship with a previous sociopath (power and control was that guy’s motivation and he was cruel, vicious person behind closed doors). I was insecure, looking for a person with integrity and morals, and I still believed in the general goodness of mankind. The first sociopath hadn’t smashed my general outlook on life, though, and I was rising to the challenges I faced.
The second one has, though. He was the ultimate “Nice Guy” and relished his title. He proclaimed himself to be a “giver” and a “people-pleaser” and he certainly seemed that way. The way he told his story was that he had been victimized, as I had by my ex-hubby, by his ex-wife who was controlling and financially out-of-control. In fact, his life-story seemed to be eerily similar to mine and we seemed to have a lot in common. While I liked him as a friend, I wasn’t impressed by the fact that he had no actual skills, had been working as a food server since entering the workplace (he was in his mid-thirties when we met), didn’t know how to drive a standard vehicle and didn’t even have a driver’s licence, owned nothing of any value except what most college-age boys owned, had no savings, had horrible credit (his ex’s fault, of course) and seemed to have relatively little ambition to improving his lot in life. He never paid his bills on time and he had numerous debts that he ignored. I wasn’t interested in him as a potential partner.
Kind and warm
However, my family and friends loved him because of his nature. He was so kind and so warm to everybody that it had me wondering if maybe I was overlooking something more important than physical attraction and the usual prerequisites of success in a potential mate. He certainly wanted more from me than mere friendship. He worshipped the ground I walked on.
He pursued me for two whole years. It was a relentless pursuit with him shedding many tears at my refusal to become more than a friend. He was immensely kind to my very young son from my first relationship. Eventually I gave in and we were married within six months.
Children and change
We had two children within the two and a half year period we were married (he proclaimed he wanted children, as did I, and since I am no longer young, we needed them sooner as opposed later). Unfortunately, it was after the birth of our first child, a beautiful redheaded girl, that things changed. He was extremely displeased she was a redhead. He suddenly stopped being affectionate to me (previously, he practically smothered me to such a point that it was an annoyance). He made enough derogatory comments about the birthing process that I understood he was completely grossed out by it and me, too, by default. He didn’t want to be intimate more than once every couple of months so it was an absolute miracle our second child was conceived about nine months after the first was born. On the rare occasion we were intimate, it was over in less than thirty seconds. I felt like he had masturbated using my body, even before things with him ended. It was when I was six months pregnant that he began an affair with a co-worker who was married herself with three children of her own.
I didn’t know about the affair right away. All I know is that things got weird. He became hostile towards me and his stepson. He complained so much about all his “pressures” (passive-aggresively pointing to myself and particularly his stepson) that I recall at one point telling him it seemed like he hated his entire family. He suddenly wanted to sell our home (his name was not on the deed because of his abysmal credit rating so he didn’t qualify) and move closer to his workplace. I was three weeks away from giving birth when we moved. Yes, I was moving furniture and everything as well and even then he complained and grumbled the whole time. It was Christmas-time, too. He started making unsettling sexual comments about his then 18-month-old daughter.
With the sale of the house and the assets left over, he wanted to pay off all his sizable debts from before our marriage (student loans, personal debts to get out of his first marriage) rather than paying off debts we had accumulated jointly with home renovations of our first home (which were on my Line of Credit since he didn’t qualify for any). Fortunately, the bank forced my Line of Credit to be paid first before his as condition of getting a mortgage on the second house. Along the way, my good credit helped establish him enough that he was included on the deed for our second house. Not only that, because of the experience I shared with him in turning our basement into a self-contained suite (I taught him because I had been raised with a mother and father contractor), he was able to get a new job paying three times more as a Maintenance Supervisor at his job, instead of being a food server as before.
Name him Andrew
Three weeks after moving into the new home, our baby was born, a boy. We had long since settled on a name for him but a week before his birth, he wanted to change his name to Andrew. I didn’t know why and ultimately didn’t agree. Three weeks later I found out he was having an affair (and had been for the last six months), he moved out and never came back.
That was bad enough, realizing my life had changed dramatically. I was a single, unemployed mother of three children now. The father didn’t want to be bothered with them and had hardly any contact with them. He moved in with his mistress (apparently, her husband found out about two months before I did and as soon as I found out, she moved into an apartment by herself) within two weeks of our separation. I contacted her ex to find out what he knew and together we pieced together the ugly details, and we both concluded we’d chosen very poorly indeed. One of the things I found out about was that his mistress’s child’s name was Andrew. Imagine: he wanted to memorialize his affair by naming his newborn son after his mistress’s child. How sickening.
Refuses support
So my situation was this: I was on maternity leave from a job I couldn’t return to. (Maternity leave pays only 55% of my previous income of $24,000). His $40,000 income left with him. He refused to pay or share the mortgage on the house. He also refused to pay for any of our sizable family debt (his vehicle broke down four weeks before he left, requiring $5000 of repairs). He refused to pay child support consistently. He claimed he “couldn’t afford it” and also claimed to my face that he was “couch-surfing” (so he didn’t have to pay rent). He completely rejected any and all contact with his stepson, whom he’d known since a toddler five years before.
I wanted to keep the house because I could foster from it and also do daycare, keeping me at home with the kids and providing them with stability. At first he seemed to be cooperative although so lost in “new single guy who’s living it up” mode that he really wasn’t that interested in dealing with the loose ends (us) in general. I couldn’t figure out how he could have just dumped his whole entire life like it didn’t even exist, so easily and quickly. It was at this time I was able to get him to agree legally to a limited access schedule, though (by some miracle, in retrospect), and for that I’m eternally grateful.
So he went his way and I worked on going my own way. He was remarkably easy to get over and I did it quickly. I didn’t waste time “mourning” him. And that’s when the real troubles began. When I established “No Contact” (via phone, e-mail, and even going so far as to keeping myself hidden when he came for his limited access to the kids), he just went nuts.
Smear campaign
Suddenly, he refused to fairly negotiate any buyout of his share of the house with me. I had to accept his terms or he’d demand more. With two of his proposals (there were probably six), I did agree, and he STILL turned around, rescinded his previous demand and demanded more. Eventually he told me it benefited him to keep his name on the deed as long as possible. Later still, he told me he didn’t care how much it cost him, he just wanted me out of the house. He contacted my first ex-husband (the other sociopath) and started having pow-wows with him, which completely destroyed the fragile but stable co-parenting relationship I’d established with that guy and completely emotionally derailed my oldest son. He began broadcasting to everybody that I was having a “relationship” with his current girlfriend’s ex. He attempted to separate my own family and support network from me by outrageous bad-mouthing. He worked overtime to redeem himself and get back his “Nice Guy” reputation (which is hard to do considering he had an affair while his wife was pregnant) by accusing me of being cold, overbearing, controlling and unemotional. Lots of people bought this because he comes across as such a victim, and a warm one at that.
All that stuff, horrible as it is, is stuff I could have dealt with. The worst was yet to come.
Sexual molestation
Just days before Christmas last year, my young daughter – two and a half at the time – had a breakdown of sorts and revealed she’d been molested by her father. Since separation from her father, I’d noticed some red flags but nothing I could put my finger on. Certainly nothing I could specifically target her father on. But after a weekend visitation with her father just before Christmas, she had all the classic signs of abuse (although I didn’t know what they meant at the time): withholding bowel movements, complaining of stomach aches, obsessed with a boo-boo in her pee-pee, extremely emotional, sudden extreme nightmares. I didn’t know what to make of her behaviours and I was concerned. The coin dropped when she was told she was going back to visit her dad and she suddenly became terrified and screamed “poke me with a penis!” while viciously jabbing her finger into her crotch. She’s only a toddler but she’s been speaking clearly since she was ten months old (in short sentences, no less), so I had no doubt what she was saying.
I immediately took her to the doctor, visitation was temporarily suspended and the Child Protection Agency was called. When the Social Worker visited her that evening, she told him her dad poked her (and pointed at her crotch). In the weeks that followed, she told me a lot more (spontaneously and without me trying to pry the information from her): he touched her pee-pee in the bathroom, he came into her bedroom when she was sleeping and touched her, he “pee-pooped” on her, it came from his crotch (she pointed) and it was “gray-white” colored. Then she suddenly stopped talking. When I read the safety books to her (bought specifically because I feared she’d been abused and wanted to teach her how to protect herself) and got to the part about telling someone, she told me she couldn’t – and wouldn’t – tell anyone because “Daddy will get in trouble.” She’s had loads of sexual behaviours since then and I don’t know if it’s because she’s still being molested or what.
The investigation by the Agency stopped. The case was dropped for lack of evidence. She still gets to see her father as before. She, as a toddler, has to protect herself more than an older child would (because an older child has more credibility, I suppose). He accused me of “false allegations” and has set the groundwork for her to be disbelieved when (if) the time comes she can point a finger at him and be more “credible.” He has set the groundwork to continue to molest her and get away with it because I’m “vindictive that he had an affair and left” me.
This has almost destroyed me. I was on the edge of madness. I had to fight myself: homicide is wrong, but so is sending my daughter (who was such a bright, bubbly, cheerful person before this happened and isn’t like that anymore) to a predator. I forced the quick sale of the house (by refusing to pay any more for the mortgage), spent massive amounts of money seeking permission from the courts to move from the area (under the guise of going to school again) and have reduced the access to bi-weekly instead of twice weekly as it was before. I’m so hoping the tremendous distance between us becomes so onorous to him that he’ll get bored and go away. But she’s still at risk and I can’t do a damned thing about it.
How to go on?
And now it’s Christmas again. I feel no joy and have no reason to. What happened a year ago is back in my mind again, vivid as if it were yesterday. I’ve lost all faith in the goodness in humanity. I don’t trust anybody. I have no friends in this new place because I’m afraid of people. With every person I meet, my instant thought is, “They want something from me, that’s the only reason they’re talking to me.”
Honestly, I don’t know how to go on. My entire perspective on life has changed. I used to be optimistic, easy-going, giving people the benefit of the doubt. I was a caregiver, too (I’m getting out of that line of work – it seems to attract sociopaths like bees to a hive – my former ex-hubby was a nurse, of all things). How do you do it? How can you pick up the pieces and stop continuing to be victimized by these predators without becoming completely cynical and suspicious of everyone? How can you both protect yourself and open yourself up? How can you see through the mask? Nobody saw it coming with this guy I married. Nobody. How could I possibly expect to see it again when I was on high alert already from my experience with the first sociopath?
jofary:
After reading through this heart-rendering article, and the warmth and compassion of the posts I wanted to ask: how are you doing? Are you still on Lovefraud?
Peggy, I also read Jofray’s article and felt I think just like you do.
I hope she has come to some healing, becasue the feelings that she had (and I hope does’t still have) I think many/most/all of us can also relate to.
That is why it was sooooo important to me to work on getting the bitterness out of my heart–not for their sake, but for mine. It isn’t easy, and I’m not 100% there yet, and some days I can easily slide back into that mode. I don’t think it will ever be where I TOTALLY get it all out, but by not dwelling on the bitter thoughts and saying to myself “you are starting to feel bitter again, that is PAST, it cannot be undone” I can help myself ACCEPT the reality of what was, without approving of the action or the person who did it.
There is a nut case who lived across the road from our farm (not from here, he moved in and bought 30 acres) who had irritated the fire out of everyone in the neighborhood and community for miles around. I think the guy was adult ADHD with very poor social skills. He was N-ish in that he would confabulate and make up stories that were so outlandish in order to try to impress others with his military career, his knowledge of EVERYTHING but he was so inept at making up these stories that NO one believed a one of them, and as it turned out, not a one was true.
I actually feel sorry for this guy now. Anyway, tomake a short story long (LOL) my husband’s aircraft crashed in this man’s pasture. NO damage was done to anything in the pasture except 3 very small wild trees were burned when the plane caught fire. As my cousin, my hired hand and I rushed to the scene of the crash, this man shows up and instead of saying “Can I call 911” the FIRST thing out of his mouth was “Oh, wow, look at all this damage, I better go call my insurance agent.”
Needless to say, I was not “polite” when I told him in “NO uncertain terms” to LEAVE THE SITE OF THE CRASH.
A year later, 2 days before the anniversary of my husband’s death, Ii get served with a $50,000 lawsuit for THIS man’s pain and emotional suffering becasue my husband TRESPASSED ON HIS LAND TO DIE! Well, when the sweet little sheriff’s deputy (who knew me) walked up on my porch to “serve” me the papers, I fell apart and the little deputy, bless his heart, looked like a beaten dog. I reassured him (as I fell apart) that I wasn’t upset with him.
Many a night as I lay in bed unable to sleep, I visualized cutting this horrible man into little pieces and feeding him to the hogs. (not literally but I sure did want to hurt him!) It was VERY difficult to let go of the ANGER, the RAGE, the WRATH that this man’s terrible act of revenge against me for telling him to get away from the accident scene…and when we had a deposition with him, he was so inappropriate that his attorney dropped the suit and he got nothing.
Reading the depostion now only makes me laugh that someone is so pitiful that they will do anything to get attention. He ended up moving out of the community because so many people around here verbally attacked him for his law suit against me that he couldn’t even go get gas at the closest store without someone accosting him about it.
How very lonely it must be to have NO friends, and no one who respects you, and NO IDEA ABOUT HOW TO BE A FRIEND OR MAKE ONE. He really wasn’t a bad man, just had no social skills higher than an attention seeking ADHD child. You can tolerate and even understand that kind of behavior in a child, even over look it, but it becomes very irritating in an adult. But how can you hate someone so pitiful? There but for the grace of God go I.
Again, I don’t think this guy was a P by any means.
OxDrover:
I hope you are keeping copies of all your postings so you can put it into a book! You have such fascinating stories and a wonderful way of portraying the characters, plus the analogies are both insightful and fun. I wish there was a way to categorize all of the blogs by each author so one could see the “whole” story, not just bits and pieces of it.
Oh good heavens, I cannot even fathom the ridiculousless of the lawsuit by your neighbor. Truth is stranger than fiction. I cannot imagine any attorney in the world taking a case like that, with such callous disregard for YOUR pain and suffering. Unbelieveable. I’m glad he moved.
It does make one (almost) feel sorry for him, but not quite (smile). Same with S’s. The other day I was explaining to my daughter that people have different degrees of ‘feelings’. She is a very loving, sensitive and caring young girl and I explained to her that I estimate she has feelings of a 10. I then explained to her that my S boyfriend (whom she loved) has feelings of a 0, he can feel nothing. And further explained that her father (a N) maybe has feelings of a 4. I told her the good thing for her is that she will experience great love, and great joy and happiness in her life, but she will also feel the sting of hurt and disappointment.
I almost feel sorry for the S’s that they never experience true love, and joy, and the heartfelt connectedness and oneness with another, or with mankind. It’s almost sad. If they weren’t so evil and conniving, one could almost pity them.
I think that the anger is a normal part of the healing process…as long as isn’t too consuming, and it is not acted upon.
jofary,
My heart goes out to you. I am sorry for all that you have had to go through with this awful man. The more you talk to your daughter about everything that is going with her, the better. I am a redhead too. I have recently been doing extensive research on on the ingrained sterotypes that red haired women endure, and it has been shown that they are most often viewed as over-sexualized (to say the least). It was alarming for me to read your then husbands reaction to her, even at birth.
She will get her personality back, don’t worry. You sound like a great mother. Talking through things like that are the best way to work them out. The biggest thing will be assuring her that it is not her fault, and not to be ashamed of herself. These will be the issues that she will face once she gets a little older. Again, I am so sorry to read what you have been through. It is scary to hear how unsympathetic the legal system has been for you.
My prayers are with you.
R.
Peggy andFinally Free,
I agree with you about the “legal” system re-raping victims–and you can imagine by my story about the lawsuit from the neighbor making me have no more love for most attorneys. His attorney was an N (maybe a P I’m not sure) but as we walked out after the deposition–boy did I have to bite my tongue over that one–BIG HOLES…anyway, as we walked out the door, the lawyer turned to me and said “Oh, Mrs. Ox, I am so sorry about your loss!”
I ALMOST LOST IT right there–but the little angel that sits on one shoulder yelled at me “KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT WOMAN AND LEAVE HERE WITH SOME DIGNITY” I actually did, and gave him one of those stares that our kids say can melt icebergs and walked out though it took all my strength to do so. I am actually right proud of myself for that one.
I had fed my attorney questions to intentionally embarrass the neighbor, like “Mr. X did you tell Mr. Y in January 2001 that you worked for the FBI, CIA, the Navy Seals, and that you had made 5,000 parachute jumps in viet Nam?” The guy almost croaked on the spot. His attorney knew him and his family and knew all these things were confabulation/lies/made up stories. His eyes got as big as saucers and he tired to skirt around the answer and not directly lie, but my attorney made him admit that YES he had said these things. (NO ONE has made that many jumps, 500 is a loooong life time career in jumps)
Then a couple of questions like “did you tell Mr. K that you were faking your disability for PTSD from viet nam so you could get a pension?” Well, of course the answer is yes. And so on. I first thought about taking it to the VA and seeing if I could get his pension revoked, because I had 8 or 10 people that would have testified under oath that he had told them how he was faking his problems so he could get a pension, but I decided in the end that to heck with it, the poor man can’t get a job or hold one so why not let him go on with his life? (such as it is) It wasn’t worth the hassle to me to “get even” with him, though he richly deserved it.
Even the Ps, most of the time it isn’t even worth it to get “justice” if you can–the legal system is such a quagmire it takes up energy that you can and should use for your own healing. You end up more traumatized by “the system” than the original violence traumatized you and you end up re-raped (emotionally or physically) by the system that is supposedly designed to protect you. That is somewhat changing with physical rape cases and I hope it changes some more.
I know how it feels to be re-raped by the system. The xs raped my daughter… but because he “only” raped her, he has access to my other children. I managed to get visitation supervised but only because 1) I told my atty I would be in contempt at the very first unsupervised visitation and my family had strict instructions to hide the children and go to the networks. So he actually had reason to make an effort; 2) The judge agreed with my reasons for supervised (I got lucky with that judge.) Atty’s, by and large, despite dealing with these turds on an regular basis, have no clue what they are really dealing with. His atty was arguing for non-supervised, every other wkend. The xs had no job, no perm address, no income, no crib and no carseat and one child was less than 12mo!
The system is overly concerned with the “rights” of the criminal. If they would have incarcerated him the last time he was facing serious charges, he wouldn’t have been out to latch onto to me and mine.
His trial for child rape has been dragged out for well over a year- he’s committed other crimes and inappropriately touched other teenage girls- but he picks his victims carefully. The ones his mother cannot buy their silence are ones that live on the edge of legal behaviour so they are afraid to involve the cops. His mother has been buying off victims, paying attys, and bailing him out his entire life. He wanders around with zero fear of being caught- because even if he is caught, mommy will take care of it.
Even when they get caught, nothing changes because a sociopath cares nothing for rules- court sanctions mean nothing. And getting the police and the courts to actually enforce the court orders is exhausting, aggravating, time-consuming and most often- pointless. He’s still out, we’re still living in fear. Nothing changes. Well, almost nothing…I’m not as nice as I used to be… haha.
I really feel for jofary. If she shoots the monster, someone will demand SHE be brought to JUSTICE. Makes me nauseous. Only thing I can recommend is to put the child in counseling. 1) The child could probably benefit from it; and 2)If it is still going on, mental health professionals are mandated reporters.
jofary; re lets call him andrew; oh my goodness i nearly felt sick when i read that part of naming your child after his new victims child. my ex who i now know is s p n , one time when we were still to gethr we thought i was pregnant and we were mucking around talking about girls names, he said he really liked …….. and ……… i didnt like either of these names then he said he thought …….. was a really sexy name, i said why would a new born have to have a sexy name what a strange thing to say. then later after we broke up i found out those names where names of girls he knew and probably slept with those girls he has since leaving me had a relationship with one of those girls and i think he possibly was sleeping with one or more of them while we were together. how sick that he wanted to call our baby after his mistresses. i am so glad i turned out not to be pregnant and dont need to be connected to this person anymore. i hope things work out better for you i work with children and know what your talking about. thank you.
Help!!
Okay..everytime i try to stick up for myself my STBXP tells me I’m being uncooperative and tells the law guardian.
I want to stay sane through all this crazy making. Can any of you experienced parents help me. My STBXP is not violent or abusive, and doesn’t use drugs of any kind so I cannot prove him an unfit father. I will not get sole legal custody here in New York State.
So far I have primary custody, but I fear all of his crazy making will cause me to think with my emotions instead of my intellect (I’ve seen this happen already) along with the lies he tells making it look like I don’t let him see his son or call his son!
Someone give me suggestions on how to…
1)Stay sane
2)Enjoy my life with my child with out showing anxiety
3)Not give my P/S and grounds to twist my intentions
Banana,
Oh, Banana, How I feel for you and for the poor woman who wrote back in December of 2007.
I was tormented today – all day, nonstop, because I still have feelings for the man I thought I knew and shared life with, and the man was never there. I wish he had died instead of evaporated before my very eyes. I too fear of what he’d do to my child. The one positive thing in all this is that they do not care, so whatever the court decides and whatever the arrangement will be, it will likely be temporary, until something more fun comes along.
I know, to us, mothers, this isn’t much consolation, but I’ve tried and tried to think that way so that my anxiety won’t be so limiting. To know that he ruined my life and my family’s well being and is happily going about his business is sickening. Before, I wanted “to win”, to “Show him”; now – I decided he’s not worth the trouble. One thing for sure – whatever the courts decide, I will ensure that every word, every hour, every visit is written out to a T. There won’t be any communication between him and I whatsoever and that alone is a comfort. At first, I wanted to “make him responsible”, but now I see that responsibility is a useless term in his vocabulary. So, whoever he is with will have to take care of my child, and well – when he’s sick, cranky, hungry, etc. – they better take good care of him. I am trying to convince myself that it’d be like babysitting. But, I know what a lie this is and I know how difficult to impossible it is to stay sane. I am lucky in that my son does not look like the P at all. So, he does not remind me of the creep. I hope I don’t give the P any grounds to twist my intentions: they have been clear from the start. He is sick and needs treatment. I fight for sole custody and I have not communicated with him (and he – with me). Maybe, it’s all wrong. Usually, the vision is 20/20 only in the hindsight.
Dear Banana,
YOU ARE STRONGER THAN YOU REALIZE!!!! YOU CAN CONTROL HOW YOU APPEAR. You can ACT sane and UNemotional—think of it this way, pretend that your psychopathic soon to be X is a kidnapper and it is dependent up on YOU to keep your kid safe and appear calm and rational or you and your child will DIE! I saw a thing on Dateline tonight where a mother and her 2 year old were kidnapped and the kidnapper held a gun to her head, tied her up, threatened her etc. This man had apparently killed before in this kind of kidnapping (always mothers with kids driving big black SUVs at the same shopping mall) but somehow this woman REMAINED “Calm appearing” I know she was NOT calm, but she kept her head and the man actually let her and her child GO because she APPEAREd CALM.
You are as strong and gutsy as that woman, YOU CAN DO IT! YOU HAVE TO DO IT. I will be praying for your strength!!!!! And I firmly believe that God can give you that strength if you will jjust BELIEVE in YOUR OWN STRENGTH!!! (((hugs))))