Editor’s note: Lovefraud received the following email from a young woman whom we’ll call “Adriana.” The name in the story below has been changed.
This is a story about two girls who were on the same sports team in high school. Both showed lots of potential and both won lots of achievement awards ”¦ Both went on to do athletics in college. One was a sociopath ”¦ the other was shy and introverted.
I was the introvert. Other people saw my success, but I just enjoyed athletics and was not seriously competitive… I was excellent because I enjoyed it. As strange as that sounds. I moved a lot as a kid… This last high school was the one I went to the longest: three years. Little did I know, but this was to be the worst three years of my life. People always said when I was young that I was very sweet but seemed sad ”¦ I look back on it now and see I was a perfect target. I was funny, charming, but reserved. I modeled in New York in the summers. Lots of people at the school liked me, but I was too shy to be social ”¦ and I also knew always ”¦ for some inexplicable reason to stay away from Katie and her friends.
It was strange because I saw this person every day for hours at practice, but I knew I should never even hope to be her friend. Of course there was always a hierarchy of girls at every school I went to, but Katie and her friends in particular were very scary. The more I got to know Katie, the more I was aware that she was somehow better than I was. I was somehow less than her. It was strange. But I ignored it. The day at practice when she learned I modeled in New York during the summers she got up and left practice and did not return even the next day. No one else thought anything of this ”¦ And I didn’t want to either, but it bothered me ”¦ I ignored it. After all I didn’t want to think she was somehow jealous of a person like me ”¦ I thought it was wrong to assume such things about people ”¦ When she came back she started making little comments about me. For example that I was “weird” or that I “had to wear a lot of makeup.”
She requested to play the position I played on the team and didn’t do as well as I did, but said it was easy. The little things she did really wore me down, but I ignored it. In truth, I was a loner and a bit strange. I saw some truth in everything she said. And that would be my downfall. I wanted to believe the things she said, because I am a person who likes to listen.
There were other stresses in my life when I was young ”¦ One day I just snapped. There were some girls talking about how Katie was the best on the team and how she was such a nice person. I told them, “No, she’s horrible like really *(&^^ horrible.” And it got back to her. She used this to pretend she was the victim to my jealousy and how I always wanted to be like her. People at school, namely the boys she flirted with, bullied me at her request. She even got her friends to say things to me she wanted them to, which is disturbing.
I had always been wary of her, but other people really do like her. She was the president of my class for example.
This is a description on how she treats most people:
Katie knows what she has to offer. And she knows how to market herself to the masses. She is obsessively religious. In fact, people joke about how religious she is. She is always talking about Jesus and the Bible. She prays where people can see her pray and as often as she possibly can. She acts sickly sweet to most people. She talks about being positive all the time. She smiles all the time. She works hard and is talented but does the minimum requirements to reach goals. She uses the fact that she “works hard” and “is talented” to gain respect from people ”¦ She uses everything she knows she has.
This is how she treats her targets:
1. At first she waits till you are alone to say the meanest things to you in the nicest ways. If you say to another person that you dislike her, you’ve got to be careful because she has “followers” (often people who support her because she is “religious”).
2. She waits until you do something she can use to destroy you. It could be anything. A bad joke for example.
3. After she has found something to make you look bad she will use tactics 1 and 2 to break you down, and attack you with a small group of friends.
4. When she has hurt you enough to make you try to either apologize for perceived “wrongdoing” or confront her about how she is treating you, she’ll turn what you say around and make it sound like you hate her and have a problem with her. At this point she tells specific people who honestly are not very intelligent or brave that you’re being mean to her ”¦ She has groups who she manipulates because they are loyal to her, etc. ”¦ The harassment is bad, but she makes you see the ugliness in normal people ”¦ And that is worse.
5. This can turn into isolation and repeated harassment of the target ”¦ A few of the people who she got to harass me actually apologized to me a year after we all graduated from high school ”¦ But I’ve found when you’re dealing with a sociopath you can’t expect things from people because they are being deceived.
6. She is a self-preservationist. Everything she does to hurt someone is done in a way that will keep her removed from the “situation;” she won’t ever acknowledge that she even has a problem with you. The problem is completely yours. And the people who are harassing you. She (apparently) has nothing to do with it ”¦ When in reality ”¦ She is completely responsible for all of the pain the target experiences. In fact if you are in a group with her and her friends and they are being cruel to you, she will not say anything, in fact, she may even leave to make you think, she doesn’t really want this to be happening. But she does, she is completely responsible. She knows exactly what she is doing.
A person may think that I do not quality to write on this topic because I was young ”¦ or this treatment is not stressful to a person ”¦ but being harassed by two to three groups of people because of the encouragement by one person ”¦ no matter what age ”¦ is horrible.
This is how I’ve healed myself:
To be honest I still relapse into disgust over this person’s beyond hypocritical nature. And it is really depressing how witnessing the reality of this person’s complete lack of ethics has hurt me so deeply. I was not romantically involved a sociopath, so I felt nothing towards her other than a deep wish we could have been teammates ”¦ or even friends. So I think my story can help people who have tried to share their love with sociopaths, because I wished this person could have been my teammate, my friend ”¦ for a very long time ”¦
I see what could have been. But it is all a lie. Because the charm this person exudes to other people, never to me, is superficial. There is nothing the people she “loves” can really get from her, unless they are benefitting her in some way. Which could be called a kind of attachment. But honestly, only certain people are interested in that kind of relationship.
I have blocked this person from all means of communicating with me and forgiven myself for attempts to “reconcile” with them. I have accepted that anytime I try to fix “the situation” with Katie, it will only end with pain and disappointment on my end. I have accepted that people all over the world will think of her as a kind, attractive, charming, sweet Christian. When in reality she is only attractive ”¦ manipulative, lying, and completely self-serving.
It’s beyond hard, I find, even to this day, to accept how hypocritical she is to get what she wants. Because she is a complete hypocrite. I think that the reason why she talks to profusely about being a Christian is to hide her real intentions. She acts so charming to hide her insatiable desire to obtain material wealth. Which she will surely find.
I am not her only target; she doesn’t have many but a handful of people are aware of her nature. These people tend to think she is very intelligent for being able to manipulate people like she does. I got tired of hearing this, so I tried for a while to act as she does. It is not intelligence. It is just strange behavior.
She is made very differently than others. She is a person who is intelligent, but she is not brilliant, or even remarkably intelligent. I was able to anticipate whatever she was doing before she did it; I just didn’t act on my intuition. Fiercely believing all people are good and some are just temporarily mislead, I was only vulnerable to her because of my accepting personality type.
So I have learned to screen absolutely anyone who tries to insult me. (because if you do not allow people to hurt you they can’t). It’s an art to diffuse people with personality types opposite of your own. But it’s just a skill. One that I think all victims of sociopaths are aware they need.
I’m proud that I need the skill to deal with sociopathic types ”¦ Because manipulation is not natural to me ”¦ I seek truth and love always ”¦ I seek for every place around me to be filled with happiness and true synergy ”¦ Which is something she can never deliver!
I have found a new pride and fearlessness in loving myself for who I am, because I have met someone who, without reservation, chases after monetary gain and fame. I have realized, albeit painfully, I have the natural desire to construct, to support, to understand and promote people ”¦ while she only has the desire to get what she wants. And because in my heart I want to love and care for the people around me ”¦ I have found a sense of peace that is rare, that people like Katie will never know or understand. Because they do not seek to share their existence with the world. They try to build a palace out of lies and manipulation. People will always admire them. But I know how they really are. And there is something rare and almost divine about that.
I saw Katie the other day at a prestigious art show. She was wearing a lace mini dress off the runway and four-inch heels, talking to a bunch of business men ”¦ holding a glass of wine coyly in her hand. I was wearing a nice black dress and the Ann Taylor stilettos I’ve had for five years ”¦ I was with an artist ”¦ I walked past her and she did not see me ”¦ then I turned around, stood, waved, and smiled at her ”¦ She looked stunned, like I was a ghost ”¦ I just turned and walked away.
Sky,
I have a question for you…this may seem odd but how did you know you ex-p was trying to poison you?…no corrolation to above article.
I’ve been wanting to ask this for awhile but I know its kind of personal…
The reason I ask is although my spath did not do this to me I always wondered HOW I got pregnate…In the duration of a 2 1/2 yr relationship I got pregnate 3 times. 1 miscarriage and 1 ectopic than finally Jr. I was on birth control and VERY careful and I was never especially fertile..
The spath used to say very strange things to me that never made sence..I always assumed his words had and underlying meaning and never took them at face value…duh!!! They just always seems so “off” and there were always so many contradictions and lies I never knew what to make of them. He would say things like ” I dont need you, I want you”,’ I choose YOU” , “I may not have allot but what I have is mine and you are mine”, and oddly enough I remember when I first found out I was pregnate before my misscariage, I was very confused and I remember him saying “Well cant you just have it and give it to me”….He had 2 other children so I didn’t understand.
What is your take…this issue still confuses me?? I know it most likely doesn’t make sence but I cant come to terms with this odd behavior.
Why would he WANT me to get pregnate “control”? Would it be possible he messed with my bc? Why?
Dear Coping,
I’m not sky, but I will attempt to answer your questions anyway.
Is it possible he messed with my bc? ABSOLUTELY!
Why would he WANT me to get preg “control?” ABSOLUTELY
“What is mine is mine and you are mine” CONTROL, OWNERSHIP, objectification
All of this DOES MAKE SENSE to a psychopath, it is all about CONTROL, ownership and objectification. You are a object that he owns and he has every right to control it….in his mind.
A child would also be another object to own and control.
Coping, you DO GET IT, it just isn’t normal by “regular” people’s thinking, only P-thinking.
Coping,
Oxy answered most of your questions accurately and to the point.
As far as my spath poisoning me, it is not personal. Nothing about the spath is personal. “I” did not actually exist, I was a figment of his imagination. I told him so many times. But then, HE was a figment of his imagination too…
The way I found out that he was poisoning me, was because I had been in chronic muscle pain for 20 years. I had managed it by taking certain supplements, especially large quantities of magnesium. I noticed that when I had chronic diarrhea I felt MUCH better, so that was ONE clue.
Another clue was that he would tell me, “You would be so easy to poison, because you take so many pills”. That was a spath tell, but in fact it was also a lie because he didn’t poison my supplements, he poisoned my food. He was always angry that I had diahrrea and he wanted me to stop taking so much magnesium (which causes diahrrea in large quantities), so he tried to scare me that way.
The big clue came when I left him. He called me and said, “please come home, I cleaned the house for you.” The next day, when I knew he was gone, I went to see. The house was a big disaster but the refrigerator was completely empty. The food was NOWHERE. It wasn’t even in the garbage.
On a side note, it is an interesting look into the mind of a spath when one considers his words: “I cleaned the house for you.” WTF? Did he think he could hypnotize me into believing the house was clean just because he said he had cleaned it? Was I supposed to believe that he decided to clean the house and only got as far as the refrigerator? Spaths become very stupid when they are in the middle of a big con.
Anyway, I digressed, as usual.
Within 5 days of being gone from the house and the food in the fridge, all the pain in my muscles disappeared. I no longer took supplements and no longer had diarrhea.
Lastly, I asked him what he was poisoning me with and he couldn’t hold back. He admitted that he had used small amounts of strychnine and botulism toxin and “other small doses of things.” because he liked to experiment.
Yes, Coping, they are sickos and your body is not your temple, it is their playground.
Ox & Sky,
Thank you. I guess I did get it…it just seems SO unreal I again thought it was in my head. Yes…it seems that everyday things are becoming clear…but it just seems so unbelievable…wraping my head around this type of thinking is difficult for me. Normal vs. P thinking!!!
Sky- that is really some crazy stuff!!! I guess all of the stories here are….It’s just so unbelievable and sick!!!
It’s funny when I got pregnate with Jr. it was NOT suppossed to happen. I thought it was a test from from God, if you will. (One screwed up test) You see I had my ectopic (the second in my life) 2 short months before finding out I was pregnate with Jr. I remember the dr. telling me he wanted to remove my damaged tube as any future pregnancies would have a 50/50 shot of being another ectopic…I said no despite his assurances that I would be able to have children in the future with only 1 tube. I remember crying and praying to god that all I wanted was to one day have children and that no matter what if I ever got pregnate again I would do everything possible to ensure I would do it right. I remember them wheeling me into surgery and seeing this big painting of Jesus with his arms open. This was not reassuring for me. This was a Holy shit I’m gonna die moment.
When I found out I was pregnate with Jr. it was tough…the first couple weeks especially…making sure Jr. was in the right place ect. I knew things were not right with the spath (although I didn’t know that is what he really was at the time) but I kept waiting for God to give me a sign this was NOT suppossed to be. It took me until my 5th month of pregnancy to accept I was healthly and having a baby. No signs..all tests were good. I remember that promise to God and held true to it, although I did not feel ready to have a baby, was afraid, ect., and slowly coming to terms with the fact the ex was a P.
I do not regret having Jr. He was a gift…literally. Sometimes I wonder why God, if you will let me have a child with this horrible man. Why things seems so hard..ect., then I remember Jr. actually saved me from the spath..by protecting Jr. I saved myself. I don’t know…it’s just a wierd thought. All I know is with every day that passes despite obstacles I will give Jr. everything I have to give. Sometimes it doesn’t feel like enough…otherdays I’m grateful and proud of how I’ve done despite it all.
Whats that saying…. I ALWAYS hated it “God has us exactly where he wants us to be”. WTF??? Then I think maybe it’s true!
….and yes. Our bodies are their playgrounds! He did want control and did mess with the bc. I don’t doubt this now! Somehow, in someway, things did work out….despite it!
our bodies are their playgrounds?
Interesting related story here:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/collections/201109/top-25-list-september-0/5-fear-inspired-sex-womans-ultimate-defense-or-weapon
Our bodies are their playgrounds. Once my spath moved in with me after his wife kicked him out, he started talking about wanting me to get pregnant-even though his only other child was 23 years old. Why would a 53 year old guy want to have another child with a 36 year old woman after all that time? I kept telling him that I wanted to put it off for a couple years til my career was in order. Then two weeks later he dumped me after convincing his wife to take him back.
For awhile I really wished that I HAD gotten pregnant because I wanted that so much and it was a part of him that I would always have. Then people here on LF opened up the truth to me about what he is and said-think again, do you REALLY wanted to be tied/connected to him for the rest of your life? Thank GOD I didn’t get pregnant because he would have probably kept coming around. NC was easy for me with him-because he started it by leaving and telling me that he never wanted to see me again.
The current one that I deal with isn’t as easy to manage-since it lives next door. I have been doing gray rock since I got home and I think it’s aware that I am not the same. I have also made it a point to chat up all the other people in the neighborhood when I get the chance. That is easy because they’re all so nice. This morning I was starting to get the vulnerable stare from her again. I was in my car and I turned the other way. My goal is to continue with the gray rock and try to get past the vulnerable sad eyed stare that says PAY ATTENTION TO ME and hope that I don’t cave to it this time-like I have all the other times.
Right now I have been experiencing something with her where I think she is trying to send me a message by saying the same thing over and over to me, but meaning something entirely different-like I’m being sent a message.
Sky, I read that article… I don’t understand why they’re talking aof psychosis though. Sounds to me that the Doctor wanted to have control over life and death, saw himself as powerful as the Reaper, deciding who got to be saved and who died by his hand. And every time life showed him he had no control on everything, he would kill more to prove he had godlike control over who died. The staging fits a spath mind perfectly, because it proves how he mastered it.
And then the will forgery… people are stumped by the sloppy performance of it. Spaths tell the stupidest lies all the time. They’re not “intelligent” when it comes to lying. It simply shows how brash he was. It’s the response, “I can’t believe he’d lie about that”, that often makes them get away with it.
They do have this get you pregnant ASAP syndrome. In a way I think it feeds their ego and control need. They must imagine it’s one of the ultimate ways to have control over a woman’s body. After all, her emotions, hormones, body, etc will be dictated by the fact that she’s carrying something of him in her body day by day, having to feed it, etc. I can perceive that a baby in a womb of a woman compares to a warped mind as that of a parasite. A spath is a parasite, loves nothing more than be a parasite to others. If a child of his is growing within a woman’s womb, then to his mind he planted another parasite into her body.
Not that I consider a baby a parasite… but I can see how a spath could see it that way, and how he would enjoy the idea.
I hear what you’re saying. If I had gotten pregnant and he found out about it, he would have suddenly been back on my front doorstep with some excuse about doing the right and honorable thing for me and his baby. He would have convinced the wife that he had to do that and it would be a way to insert himself back in my life. The wife probably would have gone along with that BS too, because all they care about is appearances and making sure that everyone around them is aware of what they do. He would have looked so bad to his clique for leaving a pregnant woman alone carrying his child. Then it would have been hard to get rid of him. Thank GOD it didn’t happen.
Whenever I start to feel sorry for myself over my whole unemployment issue, then I just think about how much worse my life could be right now if he were still around.