Editor’s note: Lovefraud received the following story from a woman who we’ll call “Trista.” She tells her story of being dismissed with a shrug.
I met the man who has been my husband for 30 years in a language school. He was serious, but could be funny, a bit shy, but also had a way with words. He had beautiful eyes and lots of girls were in love with him. I was no exception, but it was me he chose to go out with.
The relationship soon took off and we were a pair. Those first days were good; I had no idea I was dealing with a sociopath. When I took him to meet my mother, however, when things were very serious between us, she said that she thought he needed some “help.” I dismissed it.
I did realize how quickly he took offense for the least of things, and how quick he was to respond with offensive words to other people. Soon after we married I started to see more and more of his temper, that other people called a “short fuse,” but it was still directed to others, not to me. My time would come.
Controlling the money
My S was very controlling with money, getting angry even if I bought him a present that he thought cost more than I could spend. He continued to control me through money for all those 30 years, never allowing me to go to the supermarket on my own, not giving me money to any expense, and having screaming fits if I did anything like taking the initiative of paying for a small cheap portrait of our infant daughter. My friends and family thought him “odd,” and because I was so afraid that some people would do or say the wrong thing near him and trigger a terrible scene, I started avoiding most of my friends. We lived on our own with our two small kids, and provided that I would not ask for money or invite people who could get him in a mood, life was sort of ok.
Church was another problem. As a Christian, I was used to church life and he was brought up in a Christian environment as well. However, we could not be in any church together. Something would happen, something the preacher said or that other people said would trigger his horrendous fits of rage. I used to be terrified in church, paying attention to where the sermon would lead in case it would touch some subject that he would find offensive. I remember real terror while in church, till the last time he stormed out of the building and verbally attacked the pastor at the door. I never went to church with him again, but I also could not go alone, in case he thought I did not think him fit to go to church. This would cause even more problems. In the end I gave up church altogether, but not my Christian faith.
Holidays on his own
In the middle of the 90’s he started going on holidays on his own, to countries in Europe. I was never invited, not thought of, as I stayed behind to look after the house and teenagers. I don’t believe that he had one minute of doubt about the propriety of a married man in his 50’s going to holidays alone every year. I decided not to say anything.
I was still very scared of confronting him about anything; his rages were severe and I was scared because his eyes would change to look like glass when he was angry. He would scream not to touch him, to get away from him and his eyes would go big and glazed. Once when he was driving, somehow something we said got him in one of his tempers and he drove with fury near getting on the pavement, and barely missing a lady and a child. My daughter was in the car with me and we both thought we would die as well. He had no control over himself. A bit later on he started breaking things, like the Christmas tree, ornaments, and also pushed me against a table, I bruised my ribs and had to go to the hospital next day.
He got a job as a teacher in a University. He can somehow give a good interview and charm others, he is intelligent and cultured. Later on, when they see the problems, it is usually too late. His boss has already commented on his “glazed eyes.”
In love with Poland
As part of this job, he got a trip to Poland. When he came back, he was a man completely taken by the Polish life and people, in such a way that I can only describe as sick. My house immediately became full of Polish ornaments, his friends became only Polish people, he became obsessed by them, in the same way he became obsessed in the past by other cultures like the South Americans, the Russians, the Orientals. He had “phases” when he only talked and walked around people of those cultures, now it was the Polish. I knew it well, but could not foresee a new developement: He “fell in love” with a Polish boy.
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I was away for some weeks visiting my family and when I came back there was something different about him. He had bought a mobile phone, was using it every minute, and hiding in the garden to talk. I also got an email he passed to this boy and it was a complete sop, an email a man writes to his girl. I got the phone number of the boy, went to talk to him, who was only 20 (my S is 57) and did not know about the situation; he had a girlfriend! It was in my S ‘s mind; he interpreted friendship for another thing. This boy was his former student.
The S in my life even said after being discovered that he needed the excitement and when I pointed out the absurdity of a 57 married man who is a grandfather chasing a 20 year old boy who is younger than his son or nephews, he simply said “he had no one for him,” meaning, “I did not have to account for my actions to his family, since he has none.” He continued to behave in the most shameless manner, telling our friends that he was in love with a boy and alienating our friends even further, telling his family that both him and my son had Polish people in their lives (because my son had had a Polish girlfriend). He even asked me why I thought that I was God’s will for him and not that boy. I was speechless.
Mask slipped
From them on I argued with him for two years about the impropriety of such things, the absurdity of it, but he denies having done anything. When I talked to the boy I was made aware that he had invited him for a weekend trip and I got it just in time. He tried to blame me for his actions and denies having done me any harm or the children. However, our family is in tatters and I have filed for divorce with the support of my children. I have seen a counselor, who also saw him and he told me to leave him and that he has been cheating on me all my life. This boy was not the first one, but now the mask has slipped. Interesting enough, other people have used that term to refer to him, my friend said she always saw him as having a mask; my brother said that “his plug fell.”
At the moment he is still denying the boy was more than friendship, even after the fact that he took our wedding ring off and told me he was not married to me, didn’t want me, didn’t love me, and cried like a baby for this boy. I have all the evidence; he still denies it and makes me feel I’m somehow to blame. For two years I went nearly crazy because of his faulty logic, his coldness, his shameless deeds. He still denies that he has done wrong.
He has no remorse, no thought of me or the children about it all; he considers himself a good Christian who goes to church every Sunday but never learns anything. He said that when he did it (about the boy) I never entered his mind.
I’m now nearly divorced and have nothing else to do with him. He is still involved with the Polish, and is dressing up as a 20 year old himself, walking with groups of young people. My son is ashamed of him and my daughter says she hardly knows him. He couldn’t care less for me, his wife of 30 years. I was dismissed with a shrug.
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oops, yah, central america on the caribbean. gotta be vague, she who cannot be named may end up here one day.
I’m envious, one step. I wouldn’t mind ending up in South America or Central America some day. It’s amazing to me that even with all the ongoing issues I’ve had my whole life, I’ve always had a travel bug and thirst for adventure. Sounds like maybe you have some of that, too. I once traveled from Scotland to Greece with about $50 in my pocket and lived on a Greek island for a few months, cleaning a hotel and serving drinks in a bar where no one spoke English. I can’t believe I had the gall to do that!
About the voices in your head….it reminded me of when I was a grad student studying psychology. I was interning at a counseling center and very interested in Gestalt psychotherapy at the time. Coincidentally, (this ties in with the ecstasy conversation), ecstasy was still legal at the time and my friends and I partook of it often. As a result I often saw clients sometimes only a day or two after an ecstasy trip. My heart would still be very open during those times, and my abilities to work with clients was heightened. (This is one of the reasons I became psychologically addicted to the drug). I used to have some of my clients physically act out the different voices in their heads. I had one of them stand up on a chair and be her inner critic (which turned out to be her father) and yell down at herself. It was extremely effective and really helped a lot of people. I was regarded as one on the best counselors there. Sadly, I was not stable and not processed with my own issues. Whenever the ecstasy wore off, the walls would come down around my heart, and I could not function without putting up a mask of pretense. It was a very intense time in my life. I wish I’d had the support to stick it out because I believe I would have been a very good counselor. One of my mentors thought I didn’t have the fire in my belly, and she was right. I had not yet gone through the worst of the anger I needed to go through.
Onestep – You are making very good progress in your healing. I love ‘the spath spit’ comment. You are right you need to give yerself some lovin. We dont know what or who will be in our future but I think we will be better and much wiser and able to give of our true selves….Yes some blue water would be good. One of my best memories was on a sandy white beach with water that looked like windex – Mexico~!
Shit hens….as long as you weren’t SWIMMING in windex, that’d hurt your eyes!
🙂
I’m sooooo over due for a vacation.
I need to use my gazillion air miles before they shut the card down…..
I’d love a cruise…..someone waiting on me, meals arranged, fun arranged….just a show up and have fun vaca.
Like a cruise around the damn world!
Oh yeah….got kids….who’s gonna keep em out of trouble at home??
I LOVED Belize! I’d go there in a heartbeat again…..wow…all the things we did….me and the kids (of course no S)….I was homeschooling them at the time and we were jet setting…..DANG am I glad we did that then……cuz we’ve been grounded since I got sick!
We went kayaking and waterfall jumping, shark diving, snorkeling and cave exploring…..the mayan sacrafices……it was a life changing experience for us all….we hung out on a beach on an island 8 miles away from anyone….alone with the property caretaker…..he was AWESOME!!! He taught the kids how to climb coconut trees and pick out moms favorite kind of ‘jellied’ coconuts…..went fishing from the dock, and a washed up boat they plugged up with foam that washed up….we dug holes in the sand and cooked up the fish…..and just sat with Antonio and his local caretaker friends outside his plywood shelter hunting for hermit crabs at night.
After I got sick I called him, (we keep in touch)….he said…MISS EB, you must come down here and stay with me….bring your tent and the kids and you must relax again.
Oh…..how I’d LOVE to do that!!!
Belize was a MAGICAL trip….we spent 5 weeks as bums. Needed nothing but the local beer and a beach chair and I was happy. The conversations I had were awesome.
Oh…..those were the days!
Oxy you sounds heaps better – that’s wonderful. Glad the meds help you – I tried them a few yrs ago and got the yucky side effects just like One Step – I just felt spaced out all the time and numb.
I realise though some people find them good – I have nothing against rebalancing meds at all. I tried the herbal route too with St Johns Wort and 5HTP – not much effect from either of them. I found my best outlet was writing – I feel so much better when I purge things out with writing.
I am also in dire need of a holiday – haven’t had one for a while now. Your description of the windex water sounds perfect Hens. Maybe we need to organise a LF tropical holiday somewhere – Spath recovery. And we can all just cruise in our swimsuits sipping cocktails from coconut shells and looking cool. We can laze on deckchairs while we formulate our plans to rid the world of Spaths … dreams are free I guess!
hens: when i read your, ‘we don’t know who of what will be in our future’, I actually saw, ‘we don’ know who we will BE in out future.’ (i should not try to read when my eyes are glued shut in the morning)
I found the idea of not knowing who i will be in the future to be rather exciting! cause i need a more authentic me in the world, then the me inside will be more at ease.
enter: the happy yelling 3 year old version of me; and the 45 year old loner avatar; and????? don’t know, but need to take this journey.
windex water! LOL…perfect colour description, terrifying sensual description!
HENS, POLLY, EB – IF I HAVE TO WAER A BATHING SUIT, I AIN’T GOING! GOOD LORD, I LOVE TO GET NAKED.
AND EB, TWO WORDS: ONE BARREL 😉
I am not a video gamer – never ever played one. i like to play inside of words, BUT a lovefraud vacation game, would be one i would be down with learning. we all so deserve a vacation.
Dear Polly,
Treatment with antidepressant medications, or any psycho-active medication should be left to health care professionals who specialize in that field, not to general practitioners (who are legally able to Rx them, but—and here is the BIG BUT—a family practitioner would not treat a severe cardiac patient or try to do open heart surgery, but yet they WILL pass out psychoactive medications like candy sometimes…not all medications for depression work alike and sometimes more than one will need to be tried to find the one that works best for that individual. Or a dose may need to be raised or lowered.
Just as if you take an antibiotic for an infection and it “doesn’t work” or “makes you sick” you don’t just quit medication and say “antibiotics don’t work”—you find the one that does work FOR YOU to help the problem. Yet many people will try ONE anti-depression medication and if it has side effects or doesn’t “work” right away they say “anti-depression medications” (as a class) aren’t for me. I’m not a “pill pusher” and situational depression (like after a loss or death of a loved one) can be short lived and not require medication, PTSD and major depression don’t easily “cure themselves” and the medication is an aid, not “the cure.” Having worked in mental health for some time (but now retired) I have seen the differences in people’s lives with medication and therapy, or simply even with medication alone, or therapy alone (depending on the situation) and I want to use EVERY available aid in helping myself.
PTSD changes the chemistry of the brain, literally rerouting neurons, and you are not the same after whatever caused the PTSD that you were before it. I can testify to that!
I am feeling better yesterday and today, and getting my chit all back into one sock! I don’t like the down feelings so I finally figured out the reasons and took some actions.
This is for ‘seeingthelight’
thanks for posting a comment on my story. I was very surprise to find yet another coincidence : my husband , also in his late 50’s, is dressing like a young boy, going out with friends that are younger than his own son, behaving like if he has not a care in the world, even though the divorce is getting very complicated and the financial settlement is a mess. He bought a lot of creams for his face and is wearing my son’s toiletries and coat. He comes in and out of the house and I heard him telling someone happily over the phone that now he has got four mobiles(cell) phones! Wow! is that something a 58 year old and the brink of divorce whose only sister just died should be grinning and laughing about. And planning all sorts of outings with his friends, when his niece thinks he is crying about his sister. Nobody in his family really knows him and have discovered that he is a sociopath. I did live with him for 30 years and I KNOW. His family considers him odd, but do not know that the hasn’t got real feelings, not for me, not for his sister,not for his kids or grandkids, but for HIMSELF only. he is the most self servicing man I know.
Yes, only God can take us through this, and He will. I’m nearly at the end of my terrible time, my divorce is going to be ready soon, I’ll have a new life in South America with my very supportive son
Trista – I am going through similar crap with my ex =- he’s Mr Wonderful to folk who don’t know him – what a horror – the lies and falseness are incredible! Stay strong Trista – we’ll get through this and eventually people will start to wonder what is wrong with them 🙂
Trista:
“…my divorce is going to be ready soon, I’ll have a new life in South America with my very supportive son.”
That sounds wonderful, & you deserve it!
Blessings to you.