Editor’s note: Lovefraud received the following story from a woman who we’ll call “Trista.” She tells her story of being dismissed with a shrug.
I met the man who has been my husband for 30 years in a language school. He was serious, but could be funny, a bit shy, but also had a way with words. He had beautiful eyes and lots of girls were in love with him. I was no exception, but it was me he chose to go out with.
The relationship soon took off and we were a pair. Those first days were good; I had no idea I was dealing with a sociopath. When I took him to meet my mother, however, when things were very serious between us, she said that she thought he needed some “help.” I dismissed it.
I did realize how quickly he took offense for the least of things, and how quick he was to respond with offensive words to other people. Soon after we married I started to see more and more of his temper, that other people called a “short fuse,” but it was still directed to others, not to me. My time would come.
Controlling the money
My S was very controlling with money, getting angry even if I bought him a present that he thought cost more than I could spend. He continued to control me through money for all those 30 years, never allowing me to go to the supermarket on my own, not giving me money to any expense, and having screaming fits if I did anything like taking the initiative of paying for a small cheap portrait of our infant daughter. My friends and family thought him “odd,” and because I was so afraid that some people would do or say the wrong thing near him and trigger a terrible scene, I started avoiding most of my friends. We lived on our own with our two small kids, and provided that I would not ask for money or invite people who could get him in a mood, life was sort of ok.
Church was another problem. As a Christian, I was used to church life and he was brought up in a Christian environment as well. However, we could not be in any church together. Something would happen, something the preacher said or that other people said would trigger his horrendous fits of rage. I used to be terrified in church, paying attention to where the sermon would lead in case it would touch some subject that he would find offensive. I remember real terror while in church, till the last time he stormed out of the building and verbally attacked the pastor at the door. I never went to church with him again, but I also could not go alone, in case he thought I did not think him fit to go to church. This would cause even more problems. In the end I gave up church altogether, but not my Christian faith.
Holidays on his own
In the middle of the 90’s he started going on holidays on his own, to countries in Europe. I was never invited, not thought of, as I stayed behind to look after the house and teenagers. I don’t believe that he had one minute of doubt about the propriety of a married man in his 50’s going to holidays alone every year. I decided not to say anything.
I was still very scared of confronting him about anything; his rages were severe and I was scared because his eyes would change to look like glass when he was angry. He would scream not to touch him, to get away from him and his eyes would go big and glazed. Once when he was driving, somehow something we said got him in one of his tempers and he drove with fury near getting on the pavement, and barely missing a lady and a child. My daughter was in the car with me and we both thought we would die as well. He had no control over himself. A bit later on he started breaking things, like the Christmas tree, ornaments, and also pushed me against a table, I bruised my ribs and had to go to the hospital next day.
He got a job as a teacher in a University. He can somehow give a good interview and charm others, he is intelligent and cultured. Later on, when they see the problems, it is usually too late. His boss has already commented on his “glazed eyes.”
In love with Poland
As part of this job, he got a trip to Poland. When he came back, he was a man completely taken by the Polish life and people, in such a way that I can only describe as sick. My house immediately became full of Polish ornaments, his friends became only Polish people, he became obsessed by them, in the same way he became obsessed in the past by other cultures like the South Americans, the Russians, the Orientals. He had “phases” when he only talked and walked around people of those cultures, now it was the Polish. I knew it well, but could not foresee a new developement: He “fell in love” with a Polish boy.
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I was away for some weeks visiting my family and when I came back there was something different about him. He had bought a mobile phone, was using it every minute, and hiding in the garden to talk. I also got an email he passed to this boy and it was a complete sop, an email a man writes to his girl. I got the phone number of the boy, went to talk to him, who was only 20 (my S is 57) and did not know about the situation; he had a girlfriend! It was in my S ‘s mind; he interpreted friendship for another thing. This boy was his former student.
The S in my life even said after being discovered that he needed the excitement and when I pointed out the absurdity of a 57 married man who is a grandfather chasing a 20 year old boy who is younger than his son or nephews, he simply said “he had no one for him,” meaning, “I did not have to account for my actions to his family, since he has none.” He continued to behave in the most shameless manner, telling our friends that he was in love with a boy and alienating our friends even further, telling his family that both him and my son had Polish people in their lives (because my son had had a Polish girlfriend). He even asked me why I thought that I was God’s will for him and not that boy. I was speechless.
Mask slipped
From them on I argued with him for two years about the impropriety of such things, the absurdity of it, but he denies having done anything. When I talked to the boy I was made aware that he had invited him for a weekend trip and I got it just in time. He tried to blame me for his actions and denies having done me any harm or the children. However, our family is in tatters and I have filed for divorce with the support of my children. I have seen a counselor, who also saw him and he told me to leave him and that he has been cheating on me all my life. This boy was not the first one, but now the mask has slipped. Interesting enough, other people have used that term to refer to him, my friend said she always saw him as having a mask; my brother said that “his plug fell.”
At the moment he is still denying the boy was more than friendship, even after the fact that he took our wedding ring off and told me he was not married to me, didn’t want me, didn’t love me, and cried like a baby for this boy. I have all the evidence; he still denies it and makes me feel I’m somehow to blame. For two years I went nearly crazy because of his faulty logic, his coldness, his shameless deeds. He still denies that he has done wrong.
He has no remorse, no thought of me or the children about it all; he considers himself a good Christian who goes to church every Sunday but never learns anything. He said that when he did it (about the boy) I never entered his mind.
I’m now nearly divorced and have nothing else to do with him. He is still involved with the Polish, and is dressing up as a 20 year old himself, walking with groups of young people. My son is ashamed of him and my daughter says she hardly knows him. He couldn’t care less for me, his wife of 30 years. I was dismissed with a shrug.
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HAHA…….
Mine used to say….EB….go to your happy place????WTF……
MYBOYS…..you are sounding more and more empowered!!!
Keep the ‘balance’ and keep on heading in the direction you are!!!!
Great reading your post!!!!!
I have 28 friggen years of those letters (never sent, but now compiled in a binder)……I too had regrets RIGHT BEFORE THE WEDDING, and he abused me on our god damn HONEYMOON!!!!!
AND I STILL LASTED 28 YEARS?????? This makes me laugh now…..cuz if I don’t laugh….I’ll cry!!!!
🙂
My GF that comes over regularly to do pilates with me and chat and have tea was here yesterday……and we have the nicest, deepest conversations.
Her ex was very much like the S I was chained to …..
My ex HATED her ex……accused him of the weirdest thngs….like stealing the JETSKI….of all things…..
She was in my garage and saw the jetski….(HAHAHA) and it provoked a convo about the S…..
We have become close in the past 4-5 months….although I have known her for about 18 years…..
I find this alot ….these women I have known for years, I am just getting close with…..now that the spath is gone.
Anyways, we were talking and she started telling me how the S would always approach her and corner her and talk so badly about me…..I think she expected me to be surprised…..I wasn’t…..I knew he did this when we were together…..but she said he was horrid to me….and she just listened….
The point in her telling me this now is that she wanted me to know if she EVER saw him again…..and her new husband too felt this way….that, after getting to know me and what we lived and knowing my heart and character…..they would read him the riot act….
I told her……the best thing they could ever do is walk away….
just walk away!
It’ll kill him……
After all…..it’s ALL IMPORTANT for him to be liked/loved by everyone!
Polly,
Because I knew he “hoarded” women, I just starting emailing them on there telling them of my experience, and making sure that I told them that I had spoken to many other women whose experience was the same, which was true. I also emailed a couple of his male friends on there. One of them was a friend of one of the women he was trying to cheat on me with. Luckily, he pulled something really nasty with her early on, so she dumped him after 3 dates, but he kept texting her trying to be “friends.” The other man I emailed was a good friend of his who my S was talking to once a week, because..get this–they came up with 10 questions pertaining to accountability and integrity to ask each other every week. That was one of the ways Spath would try and fool me by thinking he was trying to get his stuff together. Anyway, I told this guy that I believe he was being conned, and he did indeed call Spath and tell him how disappointed he was that he didn’t tell him all this stuff. I think this guy thinks that Spath is really trying. It’s all bullshit. The other guy, who was a friend of the woman Spath dated 3x, emailed me back and said that Spath had been a “shameless womanizer” for the 12 years he’s known him. This guy(I’ll call him D) called Spath because after the woman (D’s friend), spoke to me, she called D, and then D got the email from me. So, he had a lot of info. Anyway, D no longer speaks with Spath. He wrote me a very cool email that said that he has chosen to distance himself from Spath and that the people we surround ourselves with “should at least be trustworthy.” He also said that Spath’s intentions were permanently untrustworthy. It was very validating. Polly, if you do decide to do email people on FB, make sure you have your ducks in a row. If I could offer unsolicited advice, it would be to make sure you stick with your experience and of course be detailed about any corroboration from other women/people. I wouldn’t use names, of course. How long have you been away from him?
Erin B,
That’s great you are getting all that validation! Feels good, don’t it?
It was/is really important for my Spath to be liked as well. I agree what you said to your friend about walking away if she ever runs into him. It would definitely drive him nuts. Spaths can’t stand it when they don’t have the control and power.
HOpeful – thanks for your support 🙂 Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for the advice. This is a horrible period – bad news yesterday and today – I have to be careful.
hopeful:
ran into the spath on the street for the first time after 16 months NC. he came up to me from behind and said something like, ”here’s how i do it!’ (don’t ask) all i felt was this whoosh of shitty energy. i put my hands up and shrugged away to get his hand off my back, and said (on auto-pilot), “i really don’t want ANYTHING to do with you.” he said, ‘I know’ and i felt his energy whoosh away. he called my cell phone a few minutes later and on voice mail said, “i was so upset that you were AFRAID of me. you never have to fear me; you’re like family.” UGH! afraid???! it was all i could do not to call him back and read him the riot act about how it wasn’t fear, but LOATHING!!!
i never gave him the satisfaction of even knowing how enraged i was — for him thinking he can walk up to me, touch me, talk to me, or call and leave a message.
this was 4 months ago. not a word since.
i think knowing that he can no longer control me … and never will … has sent him away forever.
TOWANDA!!!
Polly,
It’s done. So sorry!
Lostingrief:
Ooooh, that’s so yucky! You could feel his crappy energy. Hah! You were probably wishing you would have answered when he called so that you could say what you wanted to say. But ya know what? It doesn’t matter WHAT we say. I think spaths are unmoved by anything we say or do. All that matters is what affects them. It’s never like, “Oh, what I have done to make this girl hate me so much.” They don’t care how we feel about anything they do. In fact, I’m convinced that they want us to feel as much pain, self-doubt, and torture–short of death. But they are good at faking that they are sorry. I’m sorry you ran into that spath. But it sounds like you more than held your own. Good for you!
Polly,
I edited that comment a bit ago so I hope you see this soon. I’m sorry you’ve had some bad news. Is there anything you can share about it, if you think it would help?
Hopeful~
hopeful:
yucky is right!
i have never uttered a WORD to him since i threw his butt out of my apartment. he has left me half a dozen messages or so, including one to invite me to his baby shower. :::shudder:::
i’m sure — that after 20+ years — he never DREAMED i would cut him off so totally and dramatically.
i freakin’ WIN!
we all do. NC is our only hope. i still have moments when i wish he would call just so i can NOT answer the phone. but that’s just me still having an inkling of hope that it wasn’t ALL fake. uh … it was.