Editor’s note: Lovefraud received the following story from a woman who we’ll call “Trista.” She tells her story of being dismissed with a shrug.
I met the man who has been my husband for 30 years in a language school. He was serious, but could be funny, a bit shy, but also had a way with words. He had beautiful eyes and lots of girls were in love with him. I was no exception, but it was me he chose to go out with.
The relationship soon took off and we were a pair. Those first days were good; I had no idea I was dealing with a sociopath. When I took him to meet my mother, however, when things were very serious between us, she said that she thought he needed some “help.” I dismissed it.
I did realize how quickly he took offense for the least of things, and how quick he was to respond with offensive words to other people. Soon after we married I started to see more and more of his temper, that other people called a “short fuse,” but it was still directed to others, not to me. My time would come.
Controlling the money
My S was very controlling with money, getting angry even if I bought him a present that he thought cost more than I could spend. He continued to control me through money for all those 30 years, never allowing me to go to the supermarket on my own, not giving me money to any expense, and having screaming fits if I did anything like taking the initiative of paying for a small cheap portrait of our infant daughter. My friends and family thought him “odd,” and because I was so afraid that some people would do or say the wrong thing near him and trigger a terrible scene, I started avoiding most of my friends. We lived on our own with our two small kids, and provided that I would not ask for money or invite people who could get him in a mood, life was sort of ok.
Church was another problem. As a Christian, I was used to church life and he was brought up in a Christian environment as well. However, we could not be in any church together. Something would happen, something the preacher said or that other people said would trigger his horrendous fits of rage. I used to be terrified in church, paying attention to where the sermon would lead in case it would touch some subject that he would find offensive. I remember real terror while in church, till the last time he stormed out of the building and verbally attacked the pastor at the door. I never went to church with him again, but I also could not go alone, in case he thought I did not think him fit to go to church. This would cause even more problems. In the end I gave up church altogether, but not my Christian faith.
Holidays on his own
In the middle of the 90’s he started going on holidays on his own, to countries in Europe. I was never invited, not thought of, as I stayed behind to look after the house and teenagers. I don’t believe that he had one minute of doubt about the propriety of a married man in his 50’s going to holidays alone every year. I decided not to say anything.
I was still very scared of confronting him about anything; his rages were severe and I was scared because his eyes would change to look like glass when he was angry. He would scream not to touch him, to get away from him and his eyes would go big and glazed. Once when he was driving, somehow something we said got him in one of his tempers and he drove with fury near getting on the pavement, and barely missing a lady and a child. My daughter was in the car with me and we both thought we would die as well. He had no control over himself. A bit later on he started breaking things, like the Christmas tree, ornaments, and also pushed me against a table, I bruised my ribs and had to go to the hospital next day.
He got a job as a teacher in a University. He can somehow give a good interview and charm others, he is intelligent and cultured. Later on, when they see the problems, it is usually too late. His boss has already commented on his “glazed eyes.”
In love with Poland
As part of this job, he got a trip to Poland. When he came back, he was a man completely taken by the Polish life and people, in such a way that I can only describe as sick. My house immediately became full of Polish ornaments, his friends became only Polish people, he became obsessed by them, in the same way he became obsessed in the past by other cultures like the South Americans, the Russians, the Orientals. He had “phases” when he only talked and walked around people of those cultures, now it was the Polish. I knew it well, but could not foresee a new developement: He “fell in love” with a Polish boy.
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I was away for some weeks visiting my family and when I came back there was something different about him. He had bought a mobile phone, was using it every minute, and hiding in the garden to talk. I also got an email he passed to this boy and it was a complete sop, an email a man writes to his girl. I got the phone number of the boy, went to talk to him, who was only 20 (my S is 57) and did not know about the situation; he had a girlfriend! It was in my S ‘s mind; he interpreted friendship for another thing. This boy was his former student.
The S in my life even said after being discovered that he needed the excitement and when I pointed out the absurdity of a 57 married man who is a grandfather chasing a 20 year old boy who is younger than his son or nephews, he simply said “he had no one for him,” meaning, “I did not have to account for my actions to his family, since he has none.” He continued to behave in the most shameless manner, telling our friends that he was in love with a boy and alienating our friends even further, telling his family that both him and my son had Polish people in their lives (because my son had had a Polish girlfriend). He even asked me why I thought that I was God’s will for him and not that boy. I was speechless.
Mask slipped
From them on I argued with him for two years about the impropriety of such things, the absurdity of it, but he denies having done anything. When I talked to the boy I was made aware that he had invited him for a weekend trip and I got it just in time. He tried to blame me for his actions and denies having done me any harm or the children. However, our family is in tatters and I have filed for divorce with the support of my children. I have seen a counselor, who also saw him and he told me to leave him and that he has been cheating on me all my life. This boy was not the first one, but now the mask has slipped. Interesting enough, other people have used that term to refer to him, my friend said she always saw him as having a mask; my brother said that “his plug fell.”
At the moment he is still denying the boy was more than friendship, even after the fact that he took our wedding ring off and told me he was not married to me, didn’t want me, didn’t love me, and cried like a baby for this boy. I have all the evidence; he still denies it and makes me feel I’m somehow to blame. For two years I went nearly crazy because of his faulty logic, his coldness, his shameless deeds. He still denies that he has done wrong.
He has no remorse, no thought of me or the children about it all; he considers himself a good Christian who goes to church every Sunday but never learns anything. He said that when he did it (about the boy) I never entered his mind.
I’m now nearly divorced and have nothing else to do with him. He is still involved with the Polish, and is dressing up as a 20 year old himself, walking with groups of young people. My son is ashamed of him and my daughter says she hardly knows him. He couldn’t care less for me, his wife of 30 years. I was dismissed with a shrug.
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Lostingrief,
These guys are such anomalies of human nature. I think that is the reason victims are so *@.......#& traumatized afterwards. The experience of the Spath Show totally negates what you thought REALITY was. At first, I just though the spath was a nice man that had problems with relationships due to his crappy backround. Even my therapist, the first time we broke up, thought he was a nice man who just couldn’t “do” a relationship. Then, I found out just how twisted he was and all the behavior took on a completely different meaning. He invited you to his baby shower? Dude, he is a *$*&^#^$% scumbag! I hate him for you. Did he get married? If I ask anything you don’t want to talk about, just tell me.
oh, you can ask anything!
i was his original ‘love.’ then i got pregnant (i was 26; he was 19), and he didn’t want the baby. so i had an abortion and left him and moved to another state, but we kept in touch because we were ‘soulmates.’ then a year later, he got another girl pregnant. called me ‘crying’ but she wouldn’t terminate and he had a child with her. while he moved in with her to raise the baby, he didn’t ‘love’ her and kept begging me to come back to him. nope. two years later he gets a different girl pregnant. calls crying. how do i tell female #1 about baby and female #2. i went to comfort him. he begged me to come ‘home.’ nope.
then he has another baby with #1, and they get married with the hope that she will accept baby #2.
then he finally figures out how to get me to move back. after trying every tack, he finally goes after my spiritual side. ‘yo, i can flow with your taoism, baby … our relationship has always been so spiritual and emotional.’ damn, i fall for it.
i come back; he’s living with me four days a week. i explain to him my boundaries. no deceit, and if you want someone else, you tell me. and after less than a year, i know he’s cheating all over the place, but can’t prove it and of course, he has me believing i’m insane. three more years (and probably 50 more women), he’s got female #3 prego with baby #4. that was it. by then i was financially decimated, emotionally leveled, and physically close to death.
but i threw him out and have never spoken to him again. 20 years of my life and love done. i pick up the shards each day and glue them back the best i can. i’d rather be an amalgam of sharp edges and putty, than still in his grasp.
somehow, i won. but he was a formidable opponent.
Lostingrief,
Wow. He invites you to his babyshower that he’s having with the woman he cheated on you with. That really is some audacity. There’s an article on here that Steve Becker wrote all about the audacity, and he uses that word, of the spath. I mean, this guy didn’t really think you’d come to the shower, so he was only trying to torture you. I know what you mean about they have you think you are insane. The second time I got back together with spath, he wanted to “build trust.” Because I wasn’t catching him in anything (I find out later he never stopped cheating/lying), he said to me, “when are you going to stop checking on me? You’re just going to drive yourself crazy.” Then, when I found out, he was SO angry, because I told him that he could never again convince me that I was crazy. I like what you said: I’d rather be an amalgam of sharp edges and putty than still be in his grasp. The sharp edges with soften with time and the putty will harden where it needs to! Rock on!
audacity is the least of it. when i look back on his behavior now, i have literally laughed (although i understand ALL the ways it’s NOT funny).
i’ve been on this site for 17 months now. it saved my very life. i think we’re all doing well by being here.
these alternate life forms are dangerous, but i’m pretty sure i could spot one a mile away now.
re: the cell phone thread.
HA! that thing was attached to his hand with gorilla glue. he looked at it endlessly, but when i’d call and he wouldn’t answer, he’d say he didn’t know where it was. yah, right.
the day he approached me on the street, after 15 months NC, by the grace of god i never saw his face as he came up from behind me. all i recall seeing was his hand, with his cellphone firmly in its grasp. some things never change.
Polly, my ex also said it was all my issues that is why the relationship did not work not the facts that he is a pathological liar, cheat, woman/manizer (seduces both men and women)..parasite…etc etc..crazy making etc…its funny he even admitted he was crazy making in his journal about whats wrong with me.. he made me feel crazy over the years , I know it was not me sometimes I would try to change but . I am not the one lacking a conscience….of course we get angry ( what normal human being wouldnt ? … when the shameless fuckers pull shit right in front of our faces with that nasty smirk on their faces, the enjoyment they receive when we get all frustrated someone else wrote that …they all have the same MO…anyhow…I will keep telling my truth…. and explaining the spath to whomever will listen.. and I am going to wear my cute little frock while doing it… he always had something to say about my clothes… shallow pr–k … reminds me of TLC song unpretty… maybe I should get rid of you( already have) then I will get back to me….
Rid as in hit the road jack dontcha come back no more no more…
spirit40 and lostingrief:
Were we dating the same guy – what Jerks. low lives…i had the same experience – wow it really is a shock to your self-esteem at times….i never had someone make me feel like i was the most unattractive women he had ever been with but when we went out – i would get tons of compliments from people. I workout, keep myself up…but he would pick my face (i dont have bad skin), (tell my teeth are yellow) my teeth are white!
but i used to believe it. He was such a freaking liar. I did everything for this man (including wiping his a@.......@!). His sex drive crazy – nothing was ever enough. from swingers parties, to asking me to be with his friends…just so he can watch other guys (dick)!
he tortured me – for 3 years. I kilt myself trying please him: gave him my money, sex, took care of his daughter, while he cheated on me (but i couldnt prove it) but i knew he such a liar. take me out to the club and have to run around because he knew he fucked everything that was in the club…
sorry guys just venting – i’ve been NC 6 months…and some times still miss this creep….
His mom is asking to be my friend FB! no, i havent spoken to her in 6 months nor him…she acts if she doesnt know – he is a psyco – she had the nerve to tell me 6 months ago – HER SON SAID HE HAS NO HATRED IN HIS HEART TOWARD U…like wtf
needless to say, i ignored her friend request. I guess i can wait for her to blow up my fone at work…she nor he has my new phone numbers.
hedidn’tbreakme:
i think it’s normal to still miss them from time to time … they are masters at creating the illusion of caring, but at the same time are our tormentors.
when i threw him out, not only did i never speak to him again, but i have never spoken to anyone who knew him or us either, except my friends. i cut off his entire family (some of whom i loved), i cut off his son (who i loved), i cut off friends of his who were good to me.
but it was the only way to feel that i was AWAY FROM HIM.
it was a good decision.
lostingrief – i have been doing the same. I ignore the phone calls at work from his mom (although she got through that one time) but my emails, home phone number and cell phone number have all been changed.
I avoid him at every cost. dont ever want to see him again, i dont want to get weak for such a bad bad man. Give him the last $16 i have in my savings account.
I ignored his mom’s friend request on FB. I dont want any ties to his family for any reason. I want to get on with my life and F##kn HEAL! Its been 6 months (feel much better) but i want the feeling of thinking about him absolutely gone, I want my focus back, i want my desire back to go to the gym faithfully, like i use to go – i want me back (whomever she is i know she isnt the person, who allowed this man to run her over with a train).
thank you
I am processing the reality of harm done to me. there is a laura smith song about sexual abuse, that has a line,’yes, harm done’; and that goes through my mind as i sit to write here tonight.
it is amazing to me, and I am sure that i am still in shock at depth, that a woman would do this to me. that this has happened. somehow there is a quality to it – like i am holding a story – a small maimed rabbit of a story, or is it only a stuffy, with iron stains on it? – holding it by the ears, away from me.
i am good with her being a gift.
and this being an opportunity to heal deep places.
i refuse to be taken down by this.
but there is horror in it. someone did this ON PURPOSE.
were the hours spent laughing actually her laughing at me, and not us laughing together? i have no idea who she is really – i know her identity, her address, and parts of her spathing history. but i have no idea who she is, and what she was doing, experiencing as she conned me. we can assume it was no good – i cannot stand her being out there doing this any longer. I am getting ready to out her. putting the pieces in place.
i will no longer live under a rock.