Editor’s note: Lovefraud received the following story from a woman who we’ll call “Trista.” She tells her story of being dismissed with a shrug.
I met the man who has been my husband for 30 years in a language school. He was serious, but could be funny, a bit shy, but also had a way with words. He had beautiful eyes and lots of girls were in love with him. I was no exception, but it was me he chose to go out with.
The relationship soon took off and we were a pair. Those first days were good; I had no idea I was dealing with a sociopath. When I took him to meet my mother, however, when things were very serious between us, she said that she thought he needed some “help.” I dismissed it.
I did realize how quickly he took offense for the least of things, and how quick he was to respond with offensive words to other people. Soon after we married I started to see more and more of his temper, that other people called a “short fuse,” but it was still directed to others, not to me. My time would come.
Controlling the money
My S was very controlling with money, getting angry even if I bought him a present that he thought cost more than I could spend. He continued to control me through money for all those 30 years, never allowing me to go to the supermarket on my own, not giving me money to any expense, and having screaming fits if I did anything like taking the initiative of paying for a small cheap portrait of our infant daughter. My friends and family thought him “odd,” and because I was so afraid that some people would do or say the wrong thing near him and trigger a terrible scene, I started avoiding most of my friends. We lived on our own with our two small kids, and provided that I would not ask for money or invite people who could get him in a mood, life was sort of ok.
Church was another problem. As a Christian, I was used to church life and he was brought up in a Christian environment as well. However, we could not be in any church together. Something would happen, something the preacher said or that other people said would trigger his horrendous fits of rage. I used to be terrified in church, paying attention to where the sermon would lead in case it would touch some subject that he would find offensive. I remember real terror while in church, till the last time he stormed out of the building and verbally attacked the pastor at the door. I never went to church with him again, but I also could not go alone, in case he thought I did not think him fit to go to church. This would cause even more problems. In the end I gave up church altogether, but not my Christian faith.
Holidays on his own
In the middle of the 90’s he started going on holidays on his own, to countries in Europe. I was never invited, not thought of, as I stayed behind to look after the house and teenagers. I don’t believe that he had one minute of doubt about the propriety of a married man in his 50’s going to holidays alone every year. I decided not to say anything.
I was still very scared of confronting him about anything; his rages were severe and I was scared because his eyes would change to look like glass when he was angry. He would scream not to touch him, to get away from him and his eyes would go big and glazed. Once when he was driving, somehow something we said got him in one of his tempers and he drove with fury near getting on the pavement, and barely missing a lady and a child. My daughter was in the car with me and we both thought we would die as well. He had no control over himself. A bit later on he started breaking things, like the Christmas tree, ornaments, and also pushed me against a table, I bruised my ribs and had to go to the hospital next day.
He got a job as a teacher in a University. He can somehow give a good interview and charm others, he is intelligent and cultured. Later on, when they see the problems, it is usually too late. His boss has already commented on his “glazed eyes.”
In love with Poland
As part of this job, he got a trip to Poland. When he came back, he was a man completely taken by the Polish life and people, in such a way that I can only describe as sick. My house immediately became full of Polish ornaments, his friends became only Polish people, he became obsessed by them, in the same way he became obsessed in the past by other cultures like the South Americans, the Russians, the Orientals. He had “phases” when he only talked and walked around people of those cultures, now it was the Polish. I knew it well, but could not foresee a new developement: He “fell in love” with a Polish boy.
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I was away for some weeks visiting my family and when I came back there was something different about him. He had bought a mobile phone, was using it every minute, and hiding in the garden to talk. I also got an email he passed to this boy and it was a complete sop, an email a man writes to his girl. I got the phone number of the boy, went to talk to him, who was only 20 (my S is 57) and did not know about the situation; he had a girlfriend! It was in my S ‘s mind; he interpreted friendship for another thing. This boy was his former student.
The S in my life even said after being discovered that he needed the excitement and when I pointed out the absurdity of a 57 married man who is a grandfather chasing a 20 year old boy who is younger than his son or nephews, he simply said “he had no one for him,” meaning, “I did not have to account for my actions to his family, since he has none.” He continued to behave in the most shameless manner, telling our friends that he was in love with a boy and alienating our friends even further, telling his family that both him and my son had Polish people in their lives (because my son had had a Polish girlfriend). He even asked me why I thought that I was God’s will for him and not that boy. I was speechless.
Mask slipped
From them on I argued with him for two years about the impropriety of such things, the absurdity of it, but he denies having done anything. When I talked to the boy I was made aware that he had invited him for a weekend trip and I got it just in time. He tried to blame me for his actions and denies having done me any harm or the children. However, our family is in tatters and I have filed for divorce with the support of my children. I have seen a counselor, who also saw him and he told me to leave him and that he has been cheating on me all my life. This boy was not the first one, but now the mask has slipped. Interesting enough, other people have used that term to refer to him, my friend said she always saw him as having a mask; my brother said that “his plug fell.”
At the moment he is still denying the boy was more than friendship, even after the fact that he took our wedding ring off and told me he was not married to me, didn’t want me, didn’t love me, and cried like a baby for this boy. I have all the evidence; he still denies it and makes me feel I’m somehow to blame. For two years I went nearly crazy because of his faulty logic, his coldness, his shameless deeds. He still denies that he has done wrong.
He has no remorse, no thought of me or the children about it all; he considers himself a good Christian who goes to church every Sunday but never learns anything. He said that when he did it (about the boy) I never entered his mind.
I’m now nearly divorced and have nothing else to do with him. He is still involved with the Polish, and is dressing up as a 20 year old himself, walking with groups of young people. My son is ashamed of him and my daughter says she hardly knows him. He couldn’t care less for me, his wife of 30 years. I was dismissed with a shrug.
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I am sorry about the misunderstanding. But always know that we understand here. We can all say-“Been There & Done That! 🙂
This is so disturbing on so many levels, a complete wipeout! This just leaves me speechless. I can only pray your life will become whole again in time and you will be able to trust when the right people come into your life. God Bless!! Breach
Renewed: You are just so correct! That’s what is so great about this place. You know, I just don’t know if people that have not dealt with these types of people can really understand.
Dear Gem,
I am only checking in periodically, so only tonight read your message about finding out your daughter is a thief as well as a liar. I am sure it is stunning to find out that she not only steals from YOU but others as well. Now think about it—why is it more OK to steal from you than from others? Or vice versa? The thing is, Gem if they will steal from others they will steal from you, and the same in reverse, if they will steal from their mother, they would steal from ANYONE. So it really should NOT be “surprising” should it ? My dear, they are “equal opportunity” thieves and liars and will lie to or steal from anyone. She should have been prosecuted in my opinion just as my P son should have been put in jail (and I called the cops on some of his thefts–would have on the others if I had known) but STILL it hurts us to find out more and more “dirty nasty” things about the children we loved. Gem she is NOT the little girl you loved, she is an adult woman who is a STRANGER to you. She is totally uncaring about you and you are just another “mark” and “patsy” for her cons. It hurts though, but we will get through it.
Right now I just feel over whelmed and am doing things for myself and visiting my friend, but I know I am “not okay” but I don’t know where to turn…Style referenced tonight a comment I made over a year and a half ago, it sounded so up beat and so strong, but right now I don’t feel so upbeat or so strong, I feel only pain, confusion and sorrow and I don’t know how to get out of the hole I am in.
I hurt so badly that my son C has lied to me, disrespected to me, and I know I don’t have control over HIM, but right now I don’t feel I have control over me either.
I know all the things to DO, all the things I should consider, all the things I should think, and somehow I right this minute I feel like I am helpless. Hopeless. Like there is no more use in getting up because someone else will just kick me down. I have to get over this freaking PITY PARTY and get on with the JOB I have to do.
Oxy – Sorry you are feeling like this. Can I come to your Pity Party = I really need to join in! I feel gutted and embarrassed and humiliated and used and fed up. I don’t see an end in sight. Well it damn well is personal to me. And I have to remain silent and take the upper road while they get to laugh at me and do whatever they like to hurt and cut off options for me in terms of activities and groups. I SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO want to expose him. I want to ruin his life they way he ruined mine. I want to torture him and make him frightened. Sigh – hope I feel better in the morning. I really am not feeling like work at the moment. Hugs to you Oxy – this sucks. You can join my pity party if you like … I have punch and lots of snacks 😛
Hi Polly, I know the feeling…sometimes I wish I could write more, but as part of exposing my S I have spread the word about this site, and now it could go back to him. Our experiences are so similar. Maybe you should feel sorry for that girl instead of hating her…it sounds like she has very little going for her already and on top of that she now got herself a sociopath!! That’s tough luck! If she’s young and naive it’s going to be so much harder for her to figure out what happened to her and to recover from it. I know my S had a pattern of dating girls like that…I’m not like that, you’re not either – like other people on this blog we were challenges to them, and probably the “best” targets they ever managed to con. Trophy girlfriends as opposed to pitiful doormats they had to hide from their acquaintances because doormats are good for their egos but not for their public image. And they learnt their lesson, and they’re back dating the usual easy preys, who are unlikely to find them out, or to do anything against them. They’re not going to risk burning their wings again. They hate women, and people in general, that’s a given, but their only option now is to date people they not only hate but also despise.
No matter what you do to ruin his life, you are never going to manage to ruin it as much as he ruins it himself. Actually he is already a ruin – and has always been…a human ruin!
Hi, I was involved and married to a sociopath. He beat me and then started having an affair with a woman I befriended at the domestic violence shelter. I tried to give him extra chances because we had a child together. I have two older children and I felt as though I didnt try hard enough with their father. It has been 11 years of pure hell. I didnt know he was sleeping with a person I tried to help all these years. She gave him a disease and when I got it from him he left me for her because she does drugs and I dont. They talked about me laughed, about me, (she is a sociopath also), plotted against me and tried to hurt our son. I have had 5 restraining orders yet he keeps coming back every time he wants to argue. He treats me as though I am the problem and as if I have no right to be mad. They even sent an older child to bother my son on his church bus. My son cant even worship in peace. When does it END???? DO THEY EVER GET WHAT THEY DESERVE OR ARE THEY ALLOWED TO KEEP ON RUINING PEOPLES LIVES AND LAUGH ABOUT IT????
Oops, sorry, I didnt realize that would post like that. Let me fix it please.Hi, I was involved and married to a sociopath.
He beat me and then started having an affair with a woman I befriended at the domestic violence shelter.
I tried to give him extra chances because we had a child together.
I have two older children and I felt as though I didnt try hard enough with their father.
It has been 11 years of pure hell.
I didnt know he was sleeping with a person I tried to help all these years.
She gave him a disease and when I got it from him he left me for her because she does drugs and I dont.
They talked about me, laughed about me, (she is a sociopath also), plotted against me and tried to hurt our son.
I have had 5 restraining orders yet he keeps coming back every time he wants to argue.
He treats me as though I am the problem and as if I have no right to be mad. They even sent an older child to bother my son on his church bus.
My son cant even worship in peace.
When does it END???? (the police will do nothing)
DO THEY EVER GET WHAT THEY DESERVE?
OR ARE THEY ALLOWED TO KEEP ON RUINING PEOPLES LIVES AND LAUGH ABOUT IT????
Here are the warining signs: I was not aware people like him
even existed.
Here is a list of ways to identify a sociopath. This list is from “Profile of a Sociopath”. It is a pretty good list of sociopathic indicators:
· Glibness/Superficial Charm
· Manipulative and Conning
· Grandiose Sense of Self
· Pathological Lying
· Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
· Shallow Emotions
· Incapacity for Love
· Need for Stimulation
· Callousness/Lack of Empathy
· Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
· Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
· Irresponsibility/Unreliability
· Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
· Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
· Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
· Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
· Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
· Authoritarian
· Secretive
· Paranoid
· Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
· Conventional appearance
· Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
· Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim’s life
· Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim’s affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
· Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
· Incapable of real human attachment to another
· Unable to feel remorse or guilt
· Narcissism, grandiosity (self-importance not based on achievements)
· May state readily that their goal is to rule the world
Do they get what they deserve in the end or are they allowed to keep laughing, plotting against people, and ruining lives with no guilt?