Editor’s note: Lovefraud received the following story from a woman who we’ll call “Trista.” She tells her story of being dismissed with a shrug.
I met the man who has been my husband for 30 years in a language school. He was serious, but could be funny, a bit shy, but also had a way with words. He had beautiful eyes and lots of girls were in love with him. I was no exception, but it was me he chose to go out with.
The relationship soon took off and we were a pair. Those first days were good; I had no idea I was dealing with a sociopath. When I took him to meet my mother, however, when things were very serious between us, she said that she thought he needed some “help.” I dismissed it.
I did realize how quickly he took offense for the least of things, and how quick he was to respond with offensive words to other people. Soon after we married I started to see more and more of his temper, that other people called a “short fuse,” but it was still directed to others, not to me. My time would come.
Controlling the money
My S was very controlling with money, getting angry even if I bought him a present that he thought cost more than I could spend. He continued to control me through money for all those 30 years, never allowing me to go to the supermarket on my own, not giving me money to any expense, and having screaming fits if I did anything like taking the initiative of paying for a small cheap portrait of our infant daughter. My friends and family thought him “odd,” and because I was so afraid that some people would do or say the wrong thing near him and trigger a terrible scene, I started avoiding most of my friends. We lived on our own with our two small kids, and provided that I would not ask for money or invite people who could get him in a mood, life was sort of ok.
Church was another problem. As a Christian, I was used to church life and he was brought up in a Christian environment as well. However, we could not be in any church together. Something would happen, something the preacher said or that other people said would trigger his horrendous fits of rage. I used to be terrified in church, paying attention to where the sermon would lead in case it would touch some subject that he would find offensive. I remember real terror while in church, till the last time he stormed out of the building and verbally attacked the pastor at the door. I never went to church with him again, but I also could not go alone, in case he thought I did not think him fit to go to church. This would cause even more problems. In the end I gave up church altogether, but not my Christian faith.
Holidays on his own
In the middle of the 90’s he started going on holidays on his own, to countries in Europe. I was never invited, not thought of, as I stayed behind to look after the house and teenagers. I don’t believe that he had one minute of doubt about the propriety of a married man in his 50’s going to holidays alone every year. I decided not to say anything.
I was still very scared of confronting him about anything; his rages were severe and I was scared because his eyes would change to look like glass when he was angry. He would scream not to touch him, to get away from him and his eyes would go big and glazed. Once when he was driving, somehow something we said got him in one of his tempers and he drove with fury near getting on the pavement, and barely missing a lady and a child. My daughter was in the car with me and we both thought we would die as well. He had no control over himself. A bit later on he started breaking things, like the Christmas tree, ornaments, and also pushed me against a table, I bruised my ribs and had to go to the hospital next day.
He got a job as a teacher in a University. He can somehow give a good interview and charm others, he is intelligent and cultured. Later on, when they see the problems, it is usually too late. His boss has already commented on his “glazed eyes.”
In love with Poland
As part of this job, he got a trip to Poland. When he came back, he was a man completely taken by the Polish life and people, in such a way that I can only describe as sick. My house immediately became full of Polish ornaments, his friends became only Polish people, he became obsessed by them, in the same way he became obsessed in the past by other cultures like the South Americans, the Russians, the Orientals. He had “phases” when he only talked and walked around people of those cultures, now it was the Polish. I knew it well, but could not foresee a new developement: He “fell in love” with a Polish boy.
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I was away for some weeks visiting my family and when I came back there was something different about him. He had bought a mobile phone, was using it every minute, and hiding in the garden to talk. I also got an email he passed to this boy and it was a complete sop, an email a man writes to his girl. I got the phone number of the boy, went to talk to him, who was only 20 (my S is 57) and did not know about the situation; he had a girlfriend! It was in my S ‘s mind; he interpreted friendship for another thing. This boy was his former student.
The S in my life even said after being discovered that he needed the excitement and when I pointed out the absurdity of a 57 married man who is a grandfather chasing a 20 year old boy who is younger than his son or nephews, he simply said “he had no one for him,” meaning, “I did not have to account for my actions to his family, since he has none.” He continued to behave in the most shameless manner, telling our friends that he was in love with a boy and alienating our friends even further, telling his family that both him and my son had Polish people in their lives (because my son had had a Polish girlfriend). He even asked me why I thought that I was God’s will for him and not that boy. I was speechless.
Mask slipped
From them on I argued with him for two years about the impropriety of such things, the absurdity of it, but he denies having done anything. When I talked to the boy I was made aware that he had invited him for a weekend trip and I got it just in time. He tried to blame me for his actions and denies having done me any harm or the children. However, our family is in tatters and I have filed for divorce with the support of my children. I have seen a counselor, who also saw him and he told me to leave him and that he has been cheating on me all my life. This boy was not the first one, but now the mask has slipped. Interesting enough, other people have used that term to refer to him, my friend said she always saw him as having a mask; my brother said that “his plug fell.”
At the moment he is still denying the boy was more than friendship, even after the fact that he took our wedding ring off and told me he was not married to me, didn’t want me, didn’t love me, and cried like a baby for this boy. I have all the evidence; he still denies it and makes me feel I’m somehow to blame. For two years I went nearly crazy because of his faulty logic, his coldness, his shameless deeds. He still denies that he has done wrong.
He has no remorse, no thought of me or the children about it all; he considers himself a good Christian who goes to church every Sunday but never learns anything. He said that when he did it (about the boy) I never entered his mind.
I’m now nearly divorced and have nothing else to do with him. He is still involved with the Polish, and is dressing up as a 20 year old himself, walking with groups of young people. My son is ashamed of him and my daughter says she hardly knows him. He couldn’t care less for me, his wife of 30 years. I was dismissed with a shrug.
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Hi Hens – Like the name! Still would like a LF Party some day – to meet all the amazing and wonderful souls who have found LF for life!!! 🙂
HI Learn~! Good to see you. Yes a party would be great. So many come and go here, it is comforting to read your post. You are one of my designated life time healers ~!
Hey Hens
Yeah your right – thats pretty much me to a T. I am currently seeing a therapist to work out some of my issues and why I do what I do but to be honest other than a place to vent I don’t find it that helpful. Infact She seems to think he does really care about me :-S which as you can imagine only confuses me more (am I the mad one?)
As for thinking I am special to him or whatever I’m dumb but not that dumb. I know I don’t matter to him at all which is why I am so sure I could walk away whenever I wanted without a problem. I do appreciate the advice about leaving but to be honest I can’t think of anything he could do to make me want to leave and even if I did llike I said I don’t feel he would put up a fight.
It is much easier to hurt like this I am used to it but have never really been alone since I was 16 (this is my third relationship) my past relationships weren’t good my first was violent and ended up in the whole police court thing and the second was just a really bad rebound idea during which I ended up getting myself into a fair bit of trouble.
I feel like an idiot today actully I have the day off and have bought new clothes, spent all morning getting dolled up and am away to trail round the shops getting stuff for him and I have a terrible feeling he is going to cancel on me tonight (what a shock that would be)
Hens – Cant believe you know who he is. I hope she is alive.
HOC – That was pretty much me to a T too. But I was really THAT dumb and naiive and needy with my ex. Im glad to read what you wrote to Hens that you are ‘”sure you could walk away whenever you want without a problem.” I can relate to your posts. If it really is you to a T eventually you will get to the point where enough is enough for you – 🙂
HOC –
Correction. In my above post I referred to myself as “THAT dumb and naiive and needy” with my ex. Which shows that I am forgetting what I learned and continue to learn as I choose to only have healthy positive relationships in my life.
What I really should have shared with you is this
That was me to a T, too! What it came down to is I DIDNT HAVE THE TOOLS TO DEAL WITH A BAD MAN. I was inexperienced with a dysfunctional relationship and didnt know what to do and didnt think there was much I could do – but stay and try to make him care and love me (oh yeah he said it alot – but his actions never showed it)…so withouth having the tools to deal with him I pretty much settled way less than I deserved and lived in the fantasy that he cared and spent many days and nights with a terrible feeling that he was going to cancel on me all the time – and most times I was ALONE – or he would grace me with his presence for a few hours – just enough to get me to convince myself something from him (a text, a stop-over, needing a loan, negative attention, etc)…was better than nothing at all from him. Then I learned I had a choice — and eventually I focused on me and my problems rather than his. And I learned the tools I needed to be able to end my relationship with him. But only when I wanted to. It took several years..
learnthelesson,
I relate to what you are saying to HOC. I had NO CLUE what I was dealing with. I didn’t know nor could I conceive even the concept of someone being this evil. I did cartwheels, tried to rehab him, save him, be his reason for happiness, and on and on. His pattern was to be around to be in control, followed by periods of “love and affection”, which were only a setup to get what he wanted, be it money or whatever.
Once I started to learn, once I started studying these types of personality, I went to work on me. Not him. I was done with that. I saw him for what he really is; a body that walks the earth with no conscience and will take whatever he wants with no thought whatsoever to those he hurts. He can’t understand my emotional pain because he lacks a heart and the ability to truly love. It takes time to go through the “wake-up” process, but once started, I don’t think there’s any turning back.
Yes Cat,
It does take a long time to go through the “wake-up” process especially when two personalities are each feeding off of eachother quite by circumstance. For me, it was alot to do with not really knowing any better or not knowing what to do (along with not knowing myself) and how my awareness and acceptance of my choices could really make a difference in every part of my life. I really had to question was I the crazy one?? Was it me?? In the end, I found my answer to be no, I was not crazy. But I was terribly lost and confused as a woman in an unhealthy relationship.
It no longer became is it him? Is it me? It became “well at this point its now become both of us STUCK IN A DYSFUNCTIONAL UNHEALTHY RELATIONSHIP” – and it came down to – who wants to change? who wants more/better for themselves? who wants to live experiencing life in a positive way? and who wants to continue to live everyday the same cold and dark way – alone on the inside and pretending on the outside.
I chose life over death of my spirit and soul. Everyday is a challenge, but life is truly so much better alone and working on myself…than with a bad man who doesnt want to change because he checked out of a healthy respectful trusting and caring life long, long ago.
We work on trying to save an unhealthy relationship until we have no choice but to work on saving ourself first and sharing our progress and failures to inspire others.
HeightOfConfusion,
Maybe what you can do for yourself is to start journaling.
When you are in the “fog” of these types of relationships, sometimes even hours after a “situation” with them, it is hard to define what really happened, even to yourself. Write it down. What actually happened, and how you felt about it.
Write down what he says he is going to do and then what he actually does do.
After a week or two of journaling read back what you wrote.
And on paper make a list of exactly what it is that he does for you that you “think” you cant live without. NOT what you WANT him to do but what he actually contributes to the relationship.
Then on a seperate piece of paper write down what your needs are from a relationship. What you think he should contribute but that he doesn’t.
This “indifference” that you describe that he has towards you is not good. What that really is, is control. He has control over your emotions. He acts indifferent and you try harder to make him happy. It is control and manipulation and that is a dangerous formula that he uses to get what he wants.
The purpose of writting all of this on paper is so that you might read it later and see it in black and white.
It might be something you could take with you to your counseling sessions.
The fear that I have for you is that right now you don’t see how dangerous of a situation you are really in. (and he KNOWS this) But if and WHEN you DO, the situation then becomes even MORE dangerous. (because he will know THIS to)
Please at least understand that you need to have a plan to get away. Make an extra car key. Put it in your pocket every day after you take a shower, so if you needed to leave w/o your purse or coat (in an emergency) it would be right on you. Have a few hundred dollars stashed, for a hotel and a few days living expenses.
In this situation it is better to error in the direction of trying to protect yourself if need be….Than not. No harm done if you never need to use the extra key that you had made.
learnthelesson – [I chose life over the death of my spirit and soul.] Yepper’s we did didn’t we…
Hey Everyone
Not posted anything as I have been with hm all weekend (he actully didn’t cancel on me)
It was ok we didn’t even fight over the past few days which is good. He was however pretty cold and distant (I’m wondering if he is suffering from depression)
He kept saying all weekend that we would go out tonight or tomoorow but it never happened – he said the same about tonight but I doubt I will see him.
As for the advice – keeping a journal is partly what writting on here is about so I can come back and reread what has happened – as for taking it to therapy that is actully a really good idea.
Someone who knows him quite well also warned me when we first got together that if he “goes” (gets into a rage) what I have to focus on is getting as far away from him as quickly as possible and like I exsplained to her he has this habit of locking his door and keeping the key on him so if he ever did kick off and I actully wanted to leave – I couldn’t anyway. Although again that never has happened and I really can’t see it happening. I think I am the only one keeping us together and if it wasn’t for my constant effort I might not even see him again.
Think thats about it.
Oh yeah and my mother who I didn’t hear from for weeks at a time when he was away freaked out last night becasue I didn’t answer my phone and threatened to call the cops (cause she knew I was with him and was so worried about me apparently)