Editor’s note: Lovefraud received the following story from a woman who we’ll call “Trista.” She tells her story of being dismissed with a shrug.
I met the man who has been my husband for 30 years in a language school. He was serious, but could be funny, a bit shy, but also had a way with words. He had beautiful eyes and lots of girls were in love with him. I was no exception, but it was me he chose to go out with.
The relationship soon took off and we were a pair. Those first days were good; I had no idea I was dealing with a sociopath. When I took him to meet my mother, however, when things were very serious between us, she said that she thought he needed some “help.” I dismissed it.
I did realize how quickly he took offense for the least of things, and how quick he was to respond with offensive words to other people. Soon after we married I started to see more and more of his temper, that other people called a “short fuse,” but it was still directed to others, not to me. My time would come.
Controlling the money
My S was very controlling with money, getting angry even if I bought him a present that he thought cost more than I could spend. He continued to control me through money for all those 30 years, never allowing me to go to the supermarket on my own, not giving me money to any expense, and having screaming fits if I did anything like taking the initiative of paying for a small cheap portrait of our infant daughter. My friends and family thought him “odd,” and because I was so afraid that some people would do or say the wrong thing near him and trigger a terrible scene, I started avoiding most of my friends. We lived on our own with our two small kids, and provided that I would not ask for money or invite people who could get him in a mood, life was sort of ok.
Church was another problem. As a Christian, I was used to church life and he was brought up in a Christian environment as well. However, we could not be in any church together. Something would happen, something the preacher said or that other people said would trigger his horrendous fits of rage. I used to be terrified in church, paying attention to where the sermon would lead in case it would touch some subject that he would find offensive. I remember real terror while in church, till the last time he stormed out of the building and verbally attacked the pastor at the door. I never went to church with him again, but I also could not go alone, in case he thought I did not think him fit to go to church. This would cause even more problems. In the end I gave up church altogether, but not my Christian faith.
Holidays on his own
In the middle of the 90’s he started going on holidays on his own, to countries in Europe. I was never invited, not thought of, as I stayed behind to look after the house and teenagers. I don’t believe that he had one minute of doubt about the propriety of a married man in his 50’s going to holidays alone every year. I decided not to say anything.
I was still very scared of confronting him about anything; his rages were severe and I was scared because his eyes would change to look like glass when he was angry. He would scream not to touch him, to get away from him and his eyes would go big and glazed. Once when he was driving, somehow something we said got him in one of his tempers and he drove with fury near getting on the pavement, and barely missing a lady and a child. My daughter was in the car with me and we both thought we would die as well. He had no control over himself. A bit later on he started breaking things, like the Christmas tree, ornaments, and also pushed me against a table, I bruised my ribs and had to go to the hospital next day.
He got a job as a teacher in a University. He can somehow give a good interview and charm others, he is intelligent and cultured. Later on, when they see the problems, it is usually too late. His boss has already commented on his “glazed eyes.”
In love with Poland
As part of this job, he got a trip to Poland. When he came back, he was a man completely taken by the Polish life and people, in such a way that I can only describe as sick. My house immediately became full of Polish ornaments, his friends became only Polish people, he became obsessed by them, in the same way he became obsessed in the past by other cultures like the South Americans, the Russians, the Orientals. He had “phases” when he only talked and walked around people of those cultures, now it was the Polish. I knew it well, but could not foresee a new developement: He “fell in love” with a Polish boy.
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I was away for some weeks visiting my family and when I came back there was something different about him. He had bought a mobile phone, was using it every minute, and hiding in the garden to talk. I also got an email he passed to this boy and it was a complete sop, an email a man writes to his girl. I got the phone number of the boy, went to talk to him, who was only 20 (my S is 57) and did not know about the situation; he had a girlfriend! It was in my S ‘s mind; he interpreted friendship for another thing. This boy was his former student.
The S in my life even said after being discovered that he needed the excitement and when I pointed out the absurdity of a 57 married man who is a grandfather chasing a 20 year old boy who is younger than his son or nephews, he simply said “he had no one for him,” meaning, “I did not have to account for my actions to his family, since he has none.” He continued to behave in the most shameless manner, telling our friends that he was in love with a boy and alienating our friends even further, telling his family that both him and my son had Polish people in their lives (because my son had had a Polish girlfriend). He even asked me why I thought that I was God’s will for him and not that boy. I was speechless.
Mask slipped
From them on I argued with him for two years about the impropriety of such things, the absurdity of it, but he denies having done anything. When I talked to the boy I was made aware that he had invited him for a weekend trip and I got it just in time. He tried to blame me for his actions and denies having done me any harm or the children. However, our family is in tatters and I have filed for divorce with the support of my children. I have seen a counselor, who also saw him and he told me to leave him and that he has been cheating on me all my life. This boy was not the first one, but now the mask has slipped. Interesting enough, other people have used that term to refer to him, my friend said she always saw him as having a mask; my brother said that “his plug fell.”
At the moment he is still denying the boy was more than friendship, even after the fact that he took our wedding ring off and told me he was not married to me, didn’t want me, didn’t love me, and cried like a baby for this boy. I have all the evidence; he still denies it and makes me feel I’m somehow to blame. For two years I went nearly crazy because of his faulty logic, his coldness, his shameless deeds. He still denies that he has done wrong.
He has no remorse, no thought of me or the children about it all; he considers himself a good Christian who goes to church every Sunday but never learns anything. He said that when he did it (about the boy) I never entered his mind.
I’m now nearly divorced and have nothing else to do with him. He is still involved with the Polish, and is dressing up as a 20 year old himself, walking with groups of young people. My son is ashamed of him and my daughter says she hardly knows him. He couldn’t care less for me, his wife of 30 years. I was dismissed with a shrug.
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Polly I agree with one step – I think extasy would be an irritant to them. Not sure as I never tried it. But my x S would binge drink beer – if he had too much he would get mean and go into a rage about something/anything he could rage at me about, then drive off in a reckless maniac rage. So I wouldnt let him drink here at home. I think my x had a drug filled past from what I have gathered after the fact. Probably explains why his teeth were rotten and falling out, they say meth does that too your teeth. But I think any drug would heighten his physcosis. I am no angel, I have a few drinks now and then and have smoked a few italian cigs, but I dont want to be around a mean drunk, they are dangerous.. Sheesh I am so glad he is gone. Just talkin about his drunk rages reminds me of the stress and anxiety and hypervigilance, that was my life with him…I wonder what drama he has going on now.
pollyannanomore – Ecstasy or MDMA in it’s pure form heightens sensations as well as empathy. I took it with the ex Spath I was with.
It heightened my emotional responses and empathy, which is already very high without drugs. For him, all it did was increase his sex drive even more – absolutely no difference in his emotions nor any show of empathy on his part.
Henry agree about the mean drunks – I have a few now and then too and am no angel, but hard drug use and nasty drunks are just turn offs.
Ican – thanks so much for sharing that! I have wondered about it for ages. That answered my question beautifully
Polly I was always curious about trying extasy but I wanted to be with someone I loved and trusted and could share the experience with on an emotional and intimate level. Well that never happened..Would prolly kill me now tho — oh well better to be over the hill than under it.
I tried a couple of drugs I had read and heard about for years with the exSpath, during the “light” times. He has a history of drug use going way back and was well versed on them – what to get, all the different varieties, what’s safe on the street etc. etc.
My experience with the E was positive from a physical standpoint, but from the standpoint of what it did to me in the big picture, it was definitely not positive and I want to explain that. It wasn’t because of the drug itself. It’s because I do believe in retrospect he knew exactly how I’d react taking it and it was just another tool in his arsenal. So polly when your gut told you “no” with the ex, you were wise to listen to that.
As for your questions and wondering about the sex aspect, polly, I think that in the case of a sociopath encouraging taking E to you, it’s not because he’s going to feel any emotionally closer to you, it’s totally a power thing to get you even more hooked on him. I don’t know if that answers your question more 🙂
Henry – that’s exactly what I would have wanted too.
I think I understand I can – the experience was so profound for you that it deepened the perceived bonding more? That would be dangerous indeed.
Yeah polly, it deepened my bonding, but obviously not his. Having brought this topic up for the first to ANYONE, I would say now that ecstasy is dangerous to take with a sociopath because of how it increases your bonding. After learning about the other chemical bonding that goes on and the whole heightened empathy with targets, it’s really dangerous.
The S brought home E when i was 19……and it was ‘just heard of’ on the ‘scene’. I was never a big drug user….or drinker for that matter. He convinced me to try the E one night at home…..I agreed….all I remember about it was the sex….it was all damn night and the next day I could hardly walk….
I only did it that once, because the feeling on it wasn’t enjoyable with him…..I got ‘connected’ and oogly googly….he was just him….it was just more ‘active’ sex……and I was so sore and raw for days……I didn’t see any ‘benefit’ in it for me.
I could have sober sex….ya know?
BUT…..I later found out the S was doing it regularly….he was telling a ‘friend’ about it and how great it was…..at the clubs….I’m sorry, but if I was doing it in public, I’d be screwing everythign in my wake…..that’s the ‘nature’ of the drug….he said it was a great club drug…Uh, yeah….cuz you could screw boys in the corner with no remourse or guilt…..
I didn’t relate…
I also began to question HOW he could be doing it and NOT having sex with everyone he came in contact with…..as it’s a sex drug. He tried convincing me it did other things to him and yada yada…..at the time I bought it……OH how I had my eyes closed voluntarily and naively.
I remember feeling betrayed by his sneeking this when he would go out, and we lived together…..I was never posessive and had no problem with him going out….but this raised a question…>RED FLAG……but I still bought into his story.
I also took mushrooms once…..with him….I just remember sitting on the street corner in a neighborhood laughing till i peed my pants….but NOT being in control of myself…..and I didnt’ like that ONE bit. Seeing things like racoons and such….I have no idea if they were really there……but I didn’t like the whole drug thing.
He would encourage it regularly…..and I declined after those 2 times. It just wasn’t what I liked/enjoyed or wanted……little did I know…..he carried on BIG TIME the whole time….
I bet the ecstacy years were when he ‘got into’ the male sex thing…..who knows……but it would should give you the balls and the ‘excuse’ to go that route if you considered yourself ‘straight’.
As I look back I think of all the drugs he would encourage me to ‘try’…..WTF????? I believe he used drugs as a tool to control people…….thank god I stuck to my chocolate……
If someone did that to me now…..I’d run for the hills……
You know what the sick, sad irony of the whole drug thing for me is? The fact that I am not a drug use either and that I spent so many years turning down offers to do various drugs just because I was never interested in that and also never really felt safe that I was with someone I would want to make myself THAT vulnerable to and then I pick a SOCIOPATH to do it with!!!!
They really do pull the ultimate con.
For me the E wasn’t really a sex drug. It didn’t increase my appetite or decrease my inhibitions. The one time I was in public when I’d taken it, I had no desire to be jumping strangers, to put it bluntly. What it did do for me is increase my, for lack of a better way to put it, hippie-dippy, I love the world feelings towards everyone around me – not in a sexual way, but in a “Awwwww…look at that couple, aren’t they incredibly sweet and adorable!!!”
There are a lot of mixed up forms of E out there (like speed mixed in with it) that are not pure MDMA which is the original ecstacy drug and then there’s sextacy, which has become the common “in thing” – Viagra or Cialis with E.
That’s what the ex was into, stupidly and naively unbeknownst to me, he was always taking Cialis since he had problems otherwise.
I’m not sure what you’re specifically referring to with your ex and getting into the “male thing”, but with the one I was with he was very into anal – I mean on the receiving end of it. The first man that I’ve ever been with who did that. He also said that the first time he did it was on E years ago. Personally, I think it’s a crock of shit and he’s always been like that.
I suspect it may have been easier for him to have sex with men on E…although when I really think about it…..I have my supicians back to when I was 18…..we lived in Hawaii and he had a ‘french’ room mate….he and rafael would do EVERYTHING together….especially travel to other islands and leave me home…..Rafael was a rich french cutie….and S was enamoured by him…..
I’m sure I know why….people often asked me back then about the two of their relationship?
I was so dumb and naive and young I thought…..no way….he’s my boyfriend.
Aiyayai!