UPDATED FOR 2024. Editor’s note: This story was submitted by the Lovefraud reader who we’ll call “Margie.” She was still in love with the jerk she met — even after learning he was a criminal.
One night I went to a bar by myself (but always knew someone there). I sat at the bar next to this lady I knew and started talking to her. Well Steve (my ex-sociopath—not his real name) was sitting next to her talking to her. I thought he was kind of cute so started flirting. He actually said to me that night, “I think I like you better,” like he had his sights on my friend first. He bought me a flower and all my drinks the rest of the night. Well that should have been my first and only red flag to run, but I didn’t! But stupid, naive me (never dealing with a sociopath before that is) fell for his good looks, as he was 6’1″, blond and blue eyes and had a football player’s body!
Well he told me he had to catch a bus in the morning to Fargo, ND to his mother’s house that he could not miss. I had NO idea he was just let out of prison! Well we proceeded to drink and get totally drunk that night and ended up at my cozy apartment that I lived in alone. The next morning we overslept and he missed his bus (which he should not have because he was to report to Fargo, ND to set up his parole!) and he wasn’t overly upset about it.
Read more: “Personality disorder” as an excuse for criminal behavior
So he stayed on at my house…the first couple of days I thought nothing of it but then I wondered, well, if you are not worried about getting to Fargo, why aren’t you finding a job then?! And at first he was so attentive — he would open the door for me — carry the groceries — cook and clean for me — etc — but was on the computer playing poker and needed his beer constantly like he hadn’t had it in years (which he hadn’t and I didn’t know that — yet!).
Well — finally — my snoopiness (detectiveness) got the best of me and I looked through his belongings in my car trunk. I found parole papers! And I thought — Oh my god! But I was already in Love (lust) with the jerk! So I thought, okay — he loves me — we can make this work — so what if he is on parole.
Stranded
So for awhile, I went to work at my waitress job and picked up beer daily and we drank daily. I relaxed while he sat on the computer playing poker and smoking his cigs and drinking his beer. (He was also emailing many other women I found out later after only being at my place a week!) We then took a weekend trip to North Dakota that turned into a week long trip of me being stranded with no money up there and having to pawn off my 1/3 carat diamond ring to get gas to get home with. Then there was the matter of having to straighten out the bad checks mess he had conned me into writing for beer, food, etc — while in North Dakota (Not to mention the two bar tables he conned out of a bar owner, one of which has his pic on it when he worked there in college)!
And let me add, while he was wooing me at the bar when I met him, he had told me things like he had been a professional football player in Canada. He said he was a college graduate from Jamestown, ND (which was true when I talked to his ex-wife on the phone once), and many, many other lies of great magnitude!
Anyway, we get back from ND and things resume — I am job hunting cause I lost my job at due to us not being able to make it back from being stranded up there! I get a waitress job at Denny’s restaurant then and keep working and coming home with beer (what an enabler I was for god’s sake!) and drinking. All the while he is wooing me with comments like, “I will love you till the end of the earth,” and still cooking for me, etc.
Drums up a story
Then one weekend he drums up the story that they called him from his old professional football team in Canada and they wanted him back and that he had to leave for the weekend (which was Labor Day weekend) for tryouts again. Well as stupid as I was, I believed him (sort of) BUT was beginning to wonder at this point. Well he said some woman was coming to pick him up for this trip — and that is when I KNEW something was not right! My gut said check into this! So anyhow, I had also bought him bottles of vodka besides the beer — he asked me to go get him a little bottle before he left. He claimed he really didn’t want to leave me. Well he even got to the point of being teary-eyed (which was probably all a act now that I think about it) when he was saying goodbye. He packed my 4 man tent with him, which I don’t know why, but he had a lie for that too! This all happened about 2 years ago so it’s getting a bit fuzzy now trying to recall everything.
But, I was alone — he was gone — I had my computer. I had been married to a computer network engineer and was not totally computer illiterate and had a college education (B.S. in Psychology with a Criminal Justice minor). I started pulling up web pages he had been too and somehow was able to recover his password by using my credit card to pay for a website he had been too. By luck it was the same password he had used for hotmail and yahoo and everything! Jackpot!
I read everything in and out and figured out where he went! He met a woman from Narcotics Anonymous in Iowa and went to a church camp retreat with her that Labor Day weekend! Well as good as I am with my detectiveness (lol), I called Narcotics Anonymous and got her phone number (cell even!) and called her and him up! I called and harassed them ALL weekend to the point she said she was going to call her lawyer — and I said DO IT! Cause I knew I had him! He was running from the law — but she had bought in to all his lies and was treating me like crap! Well I even called the cops to go get him arrested at this camp — but do you think the cops believed me! HELL NO — DO THEY EVER! So I guess I had to drop it at this point.
But about a month later I got a call from her and she said — “Okay — I believe you now. He just took off to get some stuff of his in North Dakota and he never came back with the rental car so I filed grand theft charges. Well I gave her all the info she needed to find him but told her she better drop the grand theft charges cause she might be liable somehow for letting him take the car that was in her name! She must have listened cause I never heard he was charged with that, but all my work paid off and he went back to prison for 8 months for being AWOL!
Still in love with the jerk
But it doesn’t end here — I was still in love with the jerk! I wrote to him in prison (90 miles away) and we started corresponding to the point I was hooked again. I sent him stuff, money, letters, and visited faithfully like any good woman (blindly in love) would do! I went as far as finding a house close to the prison when he got work release so he could come visit me every chance he got! Then when he got out of work release, he moved in with me for a bit but was determined to find his own place. That I thought was a dead giveaway — he did not care for me after all.
He was saying his parole officer told him he had to do this and that. But a lot of it did not make sense to me since the other people I was talking to about this said differently. I had many more doubts in my mind at this time! So he got his own little apartment and then I moved from my house to an apartment closer to his. We hung out and drank a lot more, but there were times he wanted me to leave. Geez — I am not that stupid when someone is trying to ditch me!
Married in 3 weeks
Anyway, my suspicions grew and I would check up on him all the time. And then he started to be more distant. Then one day around the end of October around Halloween — he all of a sudden quit coming over, quit calling, an absolute no show! No word from him ever again — he would not answer my phone calls and he was never home. I then found out later he met a woman on singlesnet online and married her within 3 weeks of meeting her! Well I then followed him home after work one night and figured out where he now lived and then saw him and her together and figured out what she drove. I then figured out where she worked and followed her home from work one day and told her this whole exact story! That is when she said, “Thanks — I think.” But I did have many emails and phone calls from his family during this duration and even his own mother and daughter said I was better off without him! If that isn’t a sociopath — I don’t know what is!
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Lovefraud originally posted this story on Feb. 17, 2010.
tobehappy: hey girl-you sound good today from your earlier posts. I hope you’re having a good day.
Hey Erin…
Actually, I am nauseas today. Everything I eat makes a churning loud noise in my stomach! lol…ate rice …kept it bland. Took two naps. Had to go for an intake appt with a mental health place nearby. Going to see the therapist tomorrow. She deals with domestic abuse victims. I asked for an “older” one…didn’t want a young one…30 yrs old. no!
Anyway, a cousin of a friend of mine who lives in Florida is in bad shape. He just ended a r/s with a “sociopath” he told my friend and is not doing well. He called me to talk. I returned the call but he didn’t answer. I hope I can help him.
How did YOU make out with your car today? How was your day?
tobe-I’m sorry you’re not feeling well. Last week I had the 24 hour stomach virus and it was straight from hell. I was sick as a dog so I hope it’s not like that for you. Everyone at work but 3 people got it and it was highly. They wiped our whole area down with bleach.
The car is on my nerves. I made an appt for her to have a second tomorrow morning. Something on her transmission is sick. I want to make sure that the dealership is not lying to me. I did get approved for the little truck that I looked at but I’ll have to put down$2500 to get the loan. I am not comfortable because I told them that it would take me a month to have that cash together and they want me to give them the check and have them hold it for 30 days. I don’t trust them to not try to cash it and then I would really be in trouble. I am praying that her transmission problem is something that can be fixed. She costs too much for me and I was trying to get something else used with a lower note. If I do trade her in and get this truck, they will only give me half her value due to the mechanical problems.
Had to talk with my new boss today and that was ok. She is trying to change some of the behaviors that have me so pissed off. The day wasn’t too bad. I did my own things and went into some rooms to learn some stuff that I am not familiar with. I am off orientation at the end of this week and I feel SO not ready. I hate feeling like I don’t know what I’m doing. This work is different I’ve ever done, even though is draws off all of the skills that I have.
Write back if you want-I’m just on the couch watching a movie-my cold is still hanging around so I’m not working out yet, except for some push-ups here and there.
Raspberry herbal tea and saltines help with nausea.
So do peppermint candies. 🙂
Damn cars! Its always a decision. Went through that today too. Spent 550 to get one fixed. Selling the one I just bought from the x’s friend…even if it might have less miles…I don’t want ANY memories. And…I am kicking myself for not taking money he offered me toward the end..for insurance..etc…
He told me he would pay for my ticket to Florida and didn’t either. UGH…I am going through Kicking myself in the a$$ for being so nice to him …But,…”God don’t like ugly” and I always have GOOD Luck because I AM a good person…in the end. Miracles…always happen for me…I truly believe in Karma.
There is a GOd that protects us from our stupidness. I even said to myself during the relationship…GOD will take him when he feels I’m ready. And…sure enough…maybe GOD, who I believe is INSIDE of us…the INSTINCT in us is GOD…
(my opinion) and when I finally listened to it….I was ready to leave the LIES>
Oh…a good book to keep in the bathroom….Louise Hay…POWER THOUGHTS 365 affirmations
EVERYTIME I run to the b/r…(which i drink alot all day..lol) I read two or three . It helps so much. I am going to type out a LETTER FROM GOD too…in my other bathroom..lol…I read that when I go into that one..lol
I’m going to put index cards up all over. On MY bathroom mirror..I have a round sticker up for years now…it says..
YOU CAN DO IT…It subconsciously keeps me going…and my girls too!
Yes…today is “KiCK myself Day”…but its ok. I will go into the shower tonite and Yell at him and my mother and my sister again…lol….it gets it out.
I took a nap and had a dream that my Mom and my xbrother in law…(who my socio sister married and abandoned with a 3 and 5 yr old…) were there with one other person…I think my xhusb socio.
They were younger and I asked what they were doing there..and they said..Its 1978! I said…no its not..your’e dead mom …it 2010.
HMM>..
THis xhusb my sister left raised the son and daughter alone. The son…at age 24,….successful…hung himself to death.
His g/f of 5 yrs left him. It TRIGGERED his abandonment from my f&cking sister who left him at age 5.
SHe killed him…thats my feelings. My sister killed him…because she left him wounded and he couldn’t handle another abandonment.
It was a schock because he just bought a house…and had a business…UGH!!! DEAD GONE>..from a sociopaths abandonment!!!!!!!
Anyway…..listening to music.
Oh…I asked myself…if one of my daughters was seeing my xbf and was telling me of his antics and texts …etc… what would I tell her???
OMG…I would tell her that he is a manipulative user and she needs to DEMAND respect , (which she won’t get) …and RUN……..
Think about it…if you had a daughter and she was in YOUR position…believing a married man..etc….what would you advise her to do./??
We need to start caring for OURSELVES as if it were our children.
WOW!
Thank you SILVER!!! I am eating a peppermint one now!!!
I looked and there was one on my windowsill!
I call that a GODWINK!!!
How are you tonite?
I’m hanging out 2nite with a Lingonberry soda. They have this stuff at IKEA. Its a syrup concentrate and I mix it with soda water. Weird and wonderful.
I’ve drifted so far away from where I was when I got here. Calm has set in. I don’t miss him. I don’t really wish he was here. I have some nagging questions about whether or not I’ve made the right decisions because information keeps popping up that provokes the question, but I know win draw or lose that there is only one right answer – cut losses. Move on. It is what it is.
Its a shame to be in this place that is perfect for two when there is only me and the mutt- but the dog is happy. And I am coming to be more and more accustomed to it.
I’m way out in the country and it is very pretty here.
Talking to a friend this afternoon, I feel both more defensive and more vulnerable than before. I’m just starting to get my energy and clarity back. It has taken some time. Finally, I’m getting out a bit and it feels good to do it.
Cool beans on the peppermint:)
All about him.com …I got the link from someone on this site…
I was reading articles by Sandra Brown on it….and I realized that I really don’t want him in my life..AT ALL.
I actually SEE tonite from reading and reading…how disordered these guys are.
I have a profile still on some free dating sites…which I am probably going to pull off. THESE guys are disgusting predators!!!
I know a woman who fell for one and then made an alias name and he was going to meet the alias at a motel for sex..after he spent 3 days with my g/f telling her how much he liked her..UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No…no dating. Sandra says at least 18 months. I have no desire to meet a man right now…I told everyone…”A YEAR AND A DAY FOR ME ME ME”
By next year this time..I will be SO healthy…physically and emotionally.
Between the weight I am losing…and the yoga and buddist meditation classes….WATCH OUt!!
But, more importantly….I will be ONE TOUGH WOMAN..
BOUNDARIES will be my middle name!!!!!! LOL!!!!
SHe gives alot of good advice…like the VENTING alone . I just talked about screaming in the shower…very healthy. Better than to a friend…you won’t hold back.
In “FOOTLOOSE” …the main characters were angry…and they went down to the TRAIN and when it passed they YELLED…”I HATE YOU” …..see, even that story writer knew!!
Sandra says DO NOT THINK OF THE SWEET AND GOOD THINGS>>>>
The BAD is what you need to bring up from your subconscious. Its usually buried deeper to save up from cracking up….but …BRING IT ON!!!!
BRING IT UP!!!
FEEL IT>>>GET it out>>>and it will help us to recover.
All I have to do is think of his sneaky eyes…his lies….his not showing up…all of the things he did that gave me TERRIBLE gut feelings.
Thank God they are over. ….
SO…I am going to stop the confusion…call the SPADE a SPADE…..ACCEPT that he is DAMAGED GOODS>
You know…when my xhusb first left…it was a relief but it took me awhile to work it through…that he is BAD. I started to think..”maybe he’s not so bad” (cognitive dissonance due to bad memories being pushed down in the brain)….
But, in time…I made lists of all of his abuse and lies..and I really had NO feeling left for him. NEver thought of him at all…good or bad. I would tell people this…I don’t love him and I don’t hate him. I see him as a sick person…glad he’s gone.
Hope this happens SOON for this one..
Tiger Woods is a piece of sh%t.
He is one sick sociopath. He said this morning on tv…
“I felt entitled”
Does Elin really think there’s hope for him???
I hope someone educates her on SOCIOPATHY.
I was thinking…don’t think these Sociopaths are happy. My friends/family said “Boy, he always looks so angry”
My X husb too….when I cut “supply” (sex) our marriage was over. He went into rages…wouldn’t leave. Finally he beat up my 3 yr old…(autistic one) and I got him out.
Well..he said..”I will haunt you forever”…and he is trying by cutting the child support. (I will survive anyway..somehow)
And, he wouldn’t leave until he found another woman. (I let him back by dropping the order!!!! How pathetic was I!)
Anyway…he picked up a Brazilian stripper in a strip club. He had a new “supply” . He told me..”She CATERS to me 2be”
UGH…( I knew nothing about NPD or S at the time)
So, then this stripper, who he moved in with, started to complain about the same stuff I complained about!
They fought alot. He got fresh to her…called the police on her…same sh*t…different woman!
Finally, he came home and she was GONE! Surprise! She moved across the country and married someone else!
HE ENDED UP IN A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL!!!!!!!
HA! When he left ME he said that “I” would end up in one when he got through with ME!!!!! HA!
THen he got into the BIBLE….which was SO unlike him..wouldn’t hear a word of religion while we were married!
He met another Brazilian…looking for citizenship. He married this one! SHE is a psychpath! Walks around singing “Alleluhia”
Jesus freak!!!!
So, now the two of them moved to Florida to avoid paying support..and I hear they went to Brazil!!!
He already called the police on her before he married her and had HER put into a psych ward and on meds!!!
I wanted to warn her…but….she wouldn’t believe me anyway.
So be it.
So, they DO crack up when they lose supply…especially a good supply…like I was!!!!
This last one..my recent xb/f monster…is going to end up cracking up ….he’s getting older and women aren’t going for him so much….
I will never know….but…I sent him my blessings in a letter( a nice one so he doesn’t come after me with his guns)…
I am going to focus on ME now. Gotta get going…taking baby steps…dental work done..long overdue…and doctors appts…etc….
Its all about ME this year…
PS Once when I was with this x in bed…he said..in the heat of passion…”Its all about ME babe, right?”
How eerie!!!!
He was admitting…”I’m a Psychopath” UGH!