Editor’s note: The following story was submitted by a Lovefraud reader whom we’ll call “Marsha” about the coldest man she’s ever known.
I just wanted to write and share my story. I did some research on all the characteristics of what makes someone a sociopath. My father is a psychologist and knew my situation. He had mentioned the concept that my ex-fiance was a sociopath after everything that happened to me and I didn’t think to ask him more about what that meant. After exploring this site with the symptoms, I realized that my dad was 100 percent right. Here’s my story:
When I met my ex-fiance, it was through a mutual friend. He was charming, funny and seemed to be very witty and smart. He displayed himself as a go-getter, very ambitious, etc. We were friends for several months when our relationship seemed to get more serious. It was around that same time that I was living in an apartment that I loved within five minutes of my workplace. He lived in a fairly expensive high-rise condo on the beach, a condo that he owned, whereas I was renting.
He was a mortgage broker at the time and the housing market was steadily headed into the downfall. As we continued to date, his job stability as a broker seemed to be in question. Sure enough, about six to eight months into our relationship, he lost his job working for one of the major banks as they had some layoffs. He faced the challenge of paying his bills and mortgage in his condo as he waited for the opportunity of new employment.
Moving in with him
He created this idea that our relationship was headed in the right direction and that he “loved me.” He advised that really the only thing to do at this point would be to move in together. He urged me to quickly move into his condo so that we could play house in a sense and combine our incomes. Looking back I realize just how much I was duped.
I decided to give up my wonderful, beautiful, convenient apartment to move 30-45 minutes across the town to his location. I began paying him rent, month after month and not really seeing where the money was going. It turns out he was saving the money with plans to not pay the mortgage and lead his own self into foreclosure. He then anticipated that since we were not married he could just short sale the property in my name.
Now during all of this time, I let a lot of these financial plans slide through the cracks. I trusted him and figured that he had a plan. I didn’t know that this was a true con artist act in disguise.
During the span of time that I lived with him, he had kept in contact with an ex-girlfriend and stated that they had to keep in touch because he had known her for so long and that she was a friend. Again, I let this slide, even though I didn’t like the thought of it. Mainly because the communication was often and not of real purpose. Flirtatious, in many ways.
The marriage proposal
After one year of dating and living together I truly felt that I was in love with him. He proposed to me but even the proposal was cold and emotionless. We were arguing one afternoon and he laid the ring on the table showing that he had gotten the ring and that this should get me to stay.
This was never what I would have thought my proposal from the love of my life would have been like but again, love is blind and the sociopath can find a way to have you hanging onto a relationship that you know deep down doesn’t make sense.
He wanted silence
Needless to say, after several additional months his personality began to change and change and change. I never knew what personality I would get on any given day. He was oftentimes very irritable and mean. He was cold. I would come home from work and he would state that he couldn’t talk to me, he wanted silence. He would spend nights upon nights sleeping on the couch (by choice). What young engaged man chooses to sleep on the couch and not in the bed with his woman by choice?
Read more: Seduced by a sociopath — it’s not love, it’s love fraud
It was as though all he cared about was the money that I was paying and the plans for the short sale.
He would talk sometimes about how people always betrayed him growing up and that he blames his father for being abusive. But, he rarely ever showed affection — kisses, hugs, terms of endearment.
I made excuses
I always would make excuses for him and say to myself — He’s just going through a lot right now —or he really cares, he just doesn’t know how to show it. Yet, over time it just seemed to be that he was purposefully being emotionally abusive and standoffish. He told me that I was too close to my family and should cut the close ties. It was almost as if he was jealous of my close relationship with my family and didn’t want that closeness to continue on.
Looking back, I realize that he didn’t want anyone else to figure him out. He didn’t want anyone else to realize that he was a fake, a fraud and that his love wasn’t real. His love didn’t mean anything.
He would always find a way to charm me, or reel me back in like a fish out of water, when I started to question his intentions or when I would take a stand. Then, there were other days where he just really didn’t give a crap.
I can’t say enough how this was the coldest man I’ve ever known.
Charmed again
After additional communication between he and his ex surfaced, along with his decision to allow a buddy of his (male) to come stay in our house for well beyond a few weeks, without asking me of course. I decided it was time for some separation. Although separation was there I still missed him. After a few days, he charmed me again and offered the possibility of my coming back home and things changing.
I came back, of course, and things didn’t change and he was as aloof as he had always been. The problem was that I still loved him and wanted to marry him, wanted to change him. Within a few additional days something very devastating took place — He cut the ties of the relationship with as much care or emotion as a gravedigger. Again, it was cold and at this point he devastated my life — he told me that he just couldn’t deal with this anymore and couldn’t be in a relationship.
After all I had sacrificed emotionally and financially, he was just easily done with everything. I took steps to move out. After that point, he didn’t call; he didn’t attempt to communicate at all.
I would have never been happy
At first, I went through hell. Replaying the events and wondering what I could’ve done differently. But looking back, he just wanted to live by his own rules — he clearly was a sociopath.
What is he doing now? I hear he is still living in the same place, filed bankruptcy and works out all the time to make himself look more muscular. He dabbles into drugs and is even further down the wrong path.
I’m just happy that I got out because I would’ve never been happy. He had no care or concern for anyone but his own self. I tried not to blame myself or get depressed. I try to realize that people like this, I call them users, don’t have a heart. They don’t care! They are truly sociopaths and will do whatever they can to win and to live by their own set of rules.
Please learn from my lesson.
Learn more: Sociopathic seduction — How you got hooked and why you stayed
Lovefraud originally posted this story on April 30, 2009.
Dear Endthepain, YOU ARE NOT CRAZY….
You are experiencing the “smear campaign” and the “pity ploy” POOR HIM, HIS X-WIFE IS PERSECUTING HIM FOR SUPPORT FOR H+I+S son and he can’t help it if he has no job “in this economy” (believe me if the economy was great, he still would be using this) for some reason, they do NOT want to admit that THEY are IRRESPONSIBLE and do not want to support their own children (which they consider pawns).
TYPICAL.
First off DO NOT GIVE A BIG RAT’S ARSE what his “friends” or his “supporters” BELIEVE.
Secondly: EVERY WORD OUT OF HIS MOUTH IS A LIE. He says things ONLY to get pity, an excuse, or sympathy for HIM. He does NOT care a fig if your son were STARVING. That is YOUR responsibility NOT HIS.
Thirdly: He will USE YOUR SON like Charmin for any purpose that suits him. HE DOES NOT CARE A FIG FOR YOUR CHILD.
CONTINUE TO PRESENT A CALM APPEARANCE, even if you then go home and beat your head against a wall and scream.
DO NOT LET THEM SEE YOU BLEED, that is like throwing blood into a school of sharks, THEY LIKE THE TASTE OF BLOOD and it drives them into a more violent feeding frenzy.
(((((hugs))))) and my prayers!
James and Oxdrover..thank you so much…it is so easy to fall in the crazy ass ness…OMG! You are both right..and hearing it is so helpful!! I understand about the support only being lowered by the courts..he somehow believes I can and should make this go away for him. When it doesnt go away or change he is going to attempt to make my life a living hell!
Dear Endthepain,
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!! It is all about HIM> He feels no responsibility for supporting HIS son, that i s YOUR job…so he will do everything he can to make your life hell.
YOUR JOB is to NOT LET HIM DO THAT….and I know that is EASIER SAID THAN DONE. These people LOVE to know wht we want and then to take it away. To mess with our heads.
Of course using your son as a club to beat you with and to get SYMPATHY f rom his buddies about how you are bleeding him dry for support for this child..ya da ya da, you get the picture.
The people who believe him should BE OUT OF YOUR LIFE….don’t listen to what they say he said, don’t give those people the time of day CUT THEM ALSO OUT OF YOUR LIFE. You need them because WHY? All they do is “carry tales” to make you feel bad if they can, just like little PROXY-PSYCHOPATHS doing his dirty work.
If you encounter one of these creeps, and they start to tell you something he said or did say “STOP! I am NOT interested in ANYTHING he said or did.” If they try to continue to tell you something, repeat it again, “STOP, I am NOT interested in anything about him.” And keep that up until they either quit or you walk away.
You do NOT have to “be polite” to people who refuse to stop discussing something you are not interested in talking about. YOU OWE THESE PEOPLE NOTHING. And nothing you say about what he said or they said he said is going to help your case with them. Some people love “tale carrying” but you are NOT required to listen. BE FIRM (tht is setting a boundary and defending it and that is PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE AND OK!)
BTW it will make YOU IN CONTROL….and it is very validating and feels wonderful! give it a try!
KickHim – Hope if works on getting some money back, and I think I know what you’re thinking about. If he’s on a visa . . .
Endthepain – You’ve got some great advice here, don’t know what more I can add except that, like James said, those messages won’t hurt you in court, only help. I don’t know what he is thinking except they do keep stuff like that around. Mine did it to his OW, after she was with another guy he sent her dozens of old texts, over and over, until she broke down and called.
Probably would have been better for me not to even know about that, thanks Oxy. Better to know nothing, like he no longer exists.
Had a small breakthrough, after reading Oxy’s post on the other thread about truth and anger. I finally got in touch with the fact that in the very beginning of the “reconciliation,” when I drove out to see him again after nearly a year, there was a large debt that needed to be paid immediately. He had said on the phone we had “unfinished business” as in relationship. Our unfinished business was that.
The truth, Jane confirmed as I had suspected, was that he had stolen money from a customer of mine and she was on to him, threatening to go to the authorities. He never admitted to me that the first chunk went into his pocket, not for the project she thought she was paying for. I cried my eyes out while driving down the road.
Usedabused,
Me strong? Yes, I am but I’m no more stronger than you are or the countless peeps on LF. I am continuously humbled, amazed and inspired by the displays of courage, bravery, strength written on here.
I’ve had my struggles, don’t doubt it. Life long battles with my own fears, pain and suffering.
After blessedly, gratefully discovering literature written about Pathological Personality Disorders, the rose colored glasses slipped easily from my face and crumbled to the ground in a thousand pieces. Where once I was blind…now I could see.
I also have made unswerving decisions, choices in my life to keep the riff raff OUT!
It’s simply illogical for a woman of my caliber to waste precious time, energy and resources not only on predators but immature, melodramatic, chaos thriving individuals.
I don’t want that crap in my life. And I most certainly don’t need it. Neither do you.
Keep doing what you’re doing, doll. Reading, learning, assimilating, educating yourself not only on PDs but spending oodles of time contemplating the truth of who you are, what you need, want you want from life.
Because….guess what? You so deserve beauty, love, kindness in your life and it can be had if you believe in the priceless value of yourself. That you most certainly DO MATTER!
Peace, Love and Joy……
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JaneSmith –
See Jane learn. See Jane grow. See Jane SHINE!!!! You go Towanda womanl!!!! Excellent, simply, excellent healing and inspiring posts for each and every one of us! THANK YOU FOR YOUR SPOT ON POSTS. VERY MUCH..THANK YOU!!!
Jane –
Thank you!
“Keep doing what you’re doing, doll. Reading, learning, assimilating, educating yourself not only on PDs but spending oodles of time contemplating the truth of who you are, what you need, want you want from life.”
Your post was so comforting, sometimes it feels like there is no end in sight and your post made me see it differently. I’m going to buy The Betrayal Bond and start reading that.
I know what I want. Pretty much what I have (if they are here I’m already outed), a decent little business, a few acres with pets and livestock, and good friends around town. Just need the right man to share it with, or accept being alone.
Love you all!
Awww….I love you guys…
You touch my heart. You really do.
🙂
This stuff really rings true for me…I bent over backwards, went above and beyond for my ex-girlfriend. she is disabled from an accident but youd never know it to look at her but I helped her in so many huge ways. Then I was moving east and she wanted to go to visit her family for a few months half was between where we lived out west back to the east coast, but then she was supposed to move here to be with me. I had no idea she was an S at this point. 4 weeks after I left her there she stopped calling me for no reason at all and started emailing me these weak excuses that she had no phone and no car and no internet for weeks and then the emails stopped…ironically, last time I talked to her she said she’d loved and missed me and the first of her emails said she was ready to come here and even the last one she said she missed me and she’d call as soon as she could. Then nothing. The thing is, she was seemingly just screwing with me and we had been together for a year and I’d done so much for her. She always told me she was gonna marry me and how much she loved me. Then she disappeared and this was real recently so I still love her and miss her. I finally sent her an email telling her I was done with her BS but i still think about reaching out to her to see if I can get through altho the more I read the more I feel like I’m better off…Here is my question…does anyone have any idea how a unknowing sociopath would react if you informed them that they were? I still want to get through to her because it’s only been 2 weeks since ive last emailed her that i was done but it has been almost 2 months since ive heard her voice. I just miss her a lot though but what i miss may not have been real. sorry so long
she was seriously the best thing ever but she may have just morphed into what she thought i wanted her to be. but zero appreciation for all ive done…and she knows she said all of those things about our future and her moving here and then she just cuts off contact for no reason at all and cant even tell me it’s over? not even that? i know they arent normal and all but do they not even recognize the difference between right and wrong enough to at least tell me its over instead of dragging me through the mud for over a month until i figure it out. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so cold, so cruel, so heartless, and all i feel is utter disappointment that she turned out to be this way in the first place because I thought she was real and i still want her to be real