Editor’s note: The following story was submitted by a Lovefraud reader whom we’ll call “Marsha” about the coldest man she’s ever known.
I just wanted to write and share my story. I did some research on all the characteristics of what makes someone a sociopath. My father is a psychologist and knew my situation. He had mentioned the concept that my ex-fiance was a sociopath after everything that happened to me and I didn’t think to ask him more about what that meant. After exploring this site with the symptoms, I realized that my dad was 100 percent right. Here’s my story:
When I met my ex-fiance, it was through a mutual friend. He was charming, funny and seemed to be very witty and smart. He displayed himself as a go-getter, very ambitious, etc. We were friends for several months when our relationship seemed to get more serious. It was around that same time that I was living in an apartment that I loved within five minutes of my workplace. He lived in a fairly expensive high-rise condo on the beach, a condo that he owned, whereas I was renting.
He was a mortgage broker at the time and the housing market was steadily headed into the downfall. As we continued to date, his job stability as a broker seemed to be in question. Sure enough, about six to eight months into our relationship, he lost his job working for one of the major banks as they had some layoffs. He faced the challenge of paying his bills and mortgage in his condo as he waited for the opportunity of new employment.
Moving in with him
He created this idea that our relationship was headed in the right direction and that he “loved me.” He advised that really the only thing to do at this point would be to move in together. He urged me to quickly move into his condo so that we could play house in a sense and combine our incomes. Looking back I realize just how much I was duped.
I decided to give up my wonderful, beautiful, convenient apartment to move 30-45 minutes across the town to his location. I began paying him rent, month after month and not really seeing where the money was going. It turns out he was saving the money with plans to not pay the mortgage and lead his own self into foreclosure. He then anticipated that since we were not married he could just short sale the property in my name.
Now during all of this time, I let a lot of these financial plans slide through the cracks. I trusted him and figured that he had a plan. I didn’t know that this was a true con artist act in disguise.
During the span of time that I lived with him, he had kept in contact with an ex-girlfriend and stated that they had to keep in touch because he had known her for so long and that she was a friend. Again, I let this slide, even though I didn’t like the thought of it. Mainly because the communication was often and not of real purpose. Flirtatious, in many ways.
The marriage proposal
After one year of dating and living together I truly felt that I was in love with him. He proposed to me but even the proposal was cold and emotionless. We were arguing one afternoon and he laid the ring on the table showing that he had gotten the ring and that this should get me to stay.
This was never what I would have thought my proposal from the love of my life would have been like but again, love is blind and the sociopath can find a way to have you hanging onto a relationship that you know deep down doesn’t make sense.
He wanted silence
Needless to say, after several additional months his personality began to change and change and change. I never knew what personality I would get on any given day. He was oftentimes very irritable and mean. He was cold. I would come home from work and he would state that he couldn’t talk to me, he wanted silence. He would spend nights upon nights sleeping on the couch (by choice). What young engaged man chooses to sleep on the couch and not in the bed with his woman by choice?
Read more: Seduced by a sociopath — it’s not love, it’s love fraud
It was as though all he cared about was the money that I was paying and the plans for the short sale.
He would talk sometimes about how people always betrayed him growing up and that he blames his father for being abusive. But, he rarely ever showed affection — kisses, hugs, terms of endearment.
I made excuses
I always would make excuses for him and say to myself — He’s just going through a lot right now —or he really cares, he just doesn’t know how to show it. Yet, over time it just seemed to be that he was purposefully being emotionally abusive and standoffish. He told me that I was too close to my family and should cut the close ties. It was almost as if he was jealous of my close relationship with my family and didn’t want that closeness to continue on.
Looking back, I realize that he didn’t want anyone else to figure him out. He didn’t want anyone else to realize that he was a fake, a fraud and that his love wasn’t real. His love didn’t mean anything.
He would always find a way to charm me, or reel me back in like a fish out of water, when I started to question his intentions or when I would take a stand. Then, there were other days where he just really didn’t give a crap.
I can’t say enough how this was the coldest man I’ve ever known.
Charmed again
After additional communication between he and his ex surfaced, along with his decision to allow a buddy of his (male) to come stay in our house for well beyond a few weeks, without asking me of course. I decided it was time for some separation. Although separation was there I still missed him. After a few days, he charmed me again and offered the possibility of my coming back home and things changing.
I came back, of course, and things didn’t change and he was as aloof as he had always been. The problem was that I still loved him and wanted to marry him, wanted to change him. Within a few additional days something very devastating took place — He cut the ties of the relationship with as much care or emotion as a gravedigger. Again, it was cold and at this point he devastated my life — he told me that he just couldn’t deal with this anymore and couldn’t be in a relationship.
After all I had sacrificed emotionally and financially, he was just easily done with everything. I took steps to move out. After that point, he didn’t call; he didn’t attempt to communicate at all.
I would have never been happy
At first, I went through hell. Replaying the events and wondering what I could’ve done differently. But looking back, he just wanted to live by his own rules — he clearly was a sociopath.
What is he doing now? I hear he is still living in the same place, filed bankruptcy and works out all the time to make himself look more muscular. He dabbles into drugs and is even further down the wrong path.
I’m just happy that I got out because I would’ve never been happy. He had no care or concern for anyone but his own self. I tried not to blame myself or get depressed. I try to realize that people like this, I call them users, don’t have a heart. They don’t care! They are truly sociopaths and will do whatever they can to win and to live by their own set of rules.
Please learn from my lesson.
Learn more: Sociopathic seduction — How you got hooked and why you stayed
Lovefraud originally posted this story on April 30, 2009.
So much of your story hits painfully close to home. My ex of 10 (miserable emotional) years was supposed to be moving in today, but called to tell me that he was no longer attracted to me, never had fun with me, and was still “in love” and having sex with another woman. (In other words she must be letting him move in and he has no use for me right now).
A few months ago I read the book by Robert Hare and started to suspect that he might be a S. I let myself get duped again, however, convincing myself that he must feel some emotion.
He would always withhold sex, sleep on the couch, and I’d never know which version of him I would encounter on a particular day. I felt sooo unattractive, he somehow could turn everything around and make it seem like my fault. I’m 28 and he’s 40, I’m not ugly but him not wanting to have sex would make me feel so unattractive and undesirable.
Anyway reading your story gives me hope that I’m not crazy and that I just need to move on, and shouldn’t waste time on someone who doesn’t care.
QUESTION: How do you deal with the fact that there is no winning with a sociopath. I think I have spent 10 years of my life trying to get this man to love me, or understand how I feel or how he hurts me and change him, or make him hurt as much as he has hurt me. Any advice on how to accept that there is no way to make him feel? That there is no “revenge” for me?
Dear Done,
Welcome to LF…Im sorry for the pain you are going through. We are glad you are here and will find LF a very safe, healing, and at times fun place to be while you sort everything out.
We always suggest you start with reading some of the articles and posts to help educate you about these kinds of people…
You are NOT crazy.
To answer your quesion. For me I realized I WIN when I can look in the mirror and say WOW – The woman he is with right now could have been me .. Thank god I had an Angel watching over me doing whatever it took to get me free from a bad man!!! Winning is when we let them go on with their toxic lives and lifestyles and we get healthier and move on with our life in tact.
The best revenge… NO CONTACT and KEEP ON AND LIVE YOUR LIFE!!!
Hang in there it gets better when you sort it all out!
Thanks Learnthelesson!
I’m excited to find this resource. I read two books, “The Sociopath Next Door” and “Without Conscience” a few months ago, after my sister suggested that something was mentally wrong with my ex. She tried to tell me that he was incapable of loving me.
I was fascinated, but somehow got sucked back in, and convinced myself that he MUST have emotions. I am praying that I have finally learned my lesson, and I feel amazingly strong right now. I’m just angry. I don’t feel like crying and trying to convince him to come back or change or feel bad.
I know you are right about revenge, I’m sure it is a blessing. It is just hard to figure out where to start when I spent my entire adult life 19-28 with this person. I worry that if I do find a nice guy I wont trust him, or I’ll have so much emotional baggage that a nice guy won’t want me. I wish there was some magic way to just forget!
I’m thinking about seeing a psychiatrist…do you know of any resources for doctors who specialize in victims of sociopaths?
Again–thanks for the encouragement!
Done,
You are way ahead of the process with those two great books under your belt.
We go through many many emotions as we regain our sense of “self” back and our control back. Often we go back and forth with so many different emotions, just know its normal and try to embrace and allow how you are feeling in each moment.
NO CONTACT is truly the best thing to do – yet absolutely the single most difficult thing for us to do!
Start by doing what you have already begun..and I really encourage to read some of the old articles and posts here. You will connect with and be blown away by the similarities and such…
A psychiatrist is also a good start. Sometimes we just need to vent and talk and focus more on ourselves and our reasons (for example how we gain knowledge and insight and have our suspicions about our partner being toxic or off…and yet we reason with ourselves to stay, and like you and so many of us do, proceed forward with them, move in, get married have kids, all the while having stories to share about what they put us through…so we seek to understand how we can protect ourselves and act on those RED FLAGS and GUT FEELINGS WE GET WHEN A GUY IS TREATING US BAD…
With therapists, Its always suggested to interview THEM, see how they respond to your questions and needs and find one that is positive and supportive of you from the get go! One that you feel comfortable with based on their experience of treating victims of Sociopaths.
Thanks for sharing with us! Always feel free to post any time you just need to vent or want advice…Someone is ususally always on line and will always answer you and you will always be heard no matter what!
Its nice to be able to receive validation for what you have gone through…for way too long!! Take care
Hi Done, welcome to LF. Isn’t it amazing how they can just discard us like this? I understand what you are saying, I was with a man for many many years who made me feel unattractive (I have decided on my own that I am very pretty! 🙂 ) so yes, do move on! Don’t wait for him to change, he won’t. Glad you found this website, I have learned a lot here, it is still hard for me to understand how they have no empathy or guilt.
Welcome, Done, Glad you are here, sorry you need to be. I seconod everything that learnthelesson has said. BTW, Learn-ED, you are really GETTING IT and I am so proud of the progress you have made since coming here. Proud FOR you and proud OF you! I am so glad YOU are here too!!!!
And Chic, that goes for you too!!!! ((((hugs))))
Thanks everyone! A week ago today, my S was sitting next to me making empty promises. I’m so glad I found this site, because I feel like the light has finally clicked on in my head. Today is the first day in months that I woke up happy, feeling free, and not worried about whether or not he was going to call, or be in a good/bad mood or if I have enough money to take us out to the bars.
Usually I spend hours racking my brain and playing scenarios over in my head of what I could have done differently to make him act differently, or love me, or whatever. Or trying to figure out how I can make him understand, or make him hurt as bad as he has hurt me. Today, I woke up happy, and feel like I could care less if he gets hit by a train today, or finally dies from his excessive alcohol abuse and high bloodpressure. I’m not thinking of excuses to text him, and I threw away the stuff he left at my house rather than using it as an excuse to see him again.
I usually would be worrying that he’d never speak to me again, and that I wasted all this time and try to salvage the relationship based on time invested and memories of “good times.” I honestly can say today that I hope he never does speak to me again, but I know that he will..whether it is in two weeks, or two years. Whenever his new girl figures him out or runs out of money he will be back at my door. I almost can’t wait for that day so I can peek through the peephole and not answer.
I can’t believe I’ve been putting up with this for 10 years–I could write a book…probably 100 full length novels filled with f-d up things he’s done in the last ten years, to me, his friends, his family and anyone else unfortunate to cross his path. (I really am not exaggerating…I have thousands of pages that could be filled).
I really hope this new-found strength sticks around…I know I’d be stupid to think I’m never going to have a bad day where I want to call him (esp considering it hasn’t even been a week since I’ve seen him) but I hope that with the help of this site that I won’t waste another second of my life or penny from my wallet on this creep. I think I’ve suffered enough and I am soooo DONE!!!!
Thanks for the support, and for sharing your stories. It really helps to know that there are plenty of smart, attractive people who have been caught up in these ppls webs aside from myself. I can easily see that all of you deserve better, and I’m going to start demanding the same for myself.
Greetings, Done
Love your user name, btw…so succinct, so direct so…FINISHED..haha. Love it!
I’ve read your story (what you have written so far, that is) and I am also glad you are here with us though not pleased that you need to be here. That you have been victimized by a sleazebag predator.
I wouldn’t wish that on my worse enemy, even if I HAD a worse enemy, wouldn’t want them to suffer the way such beautiful souls suffer at the merciless, corrupt, cruel hands of a predator.
What I have surmised from your comments is that you seem to have been..”done” with him way before he callously disregarded you on move-in day.
That’s awesome for you to have such empowering insight, such wonderful self-respect and dignity for yourself in realizing that he just isn’t good enough for you. No flippin way!
Yeah, it may have taken how many years it took, but the point is…..you are now standing resolutely up for yourself, making a conscious choice to seek a better life for yourself without the ball & chain of a spineless predator/parasite wrapped around your heart, mind soul choking off your precious life force to feed his dark, selfish insatiable needs and hungers.
BRAVO for you, Done! And you are still so very young and you have oodles of wonderful, beautiful, exhilirating times ahead for you in your life. Even us less-than-young peeps have so many good, fun times to look forward to everyday!…haha.
And yeah…the LF tribe members are most certainly what I would consider the creme de la creme or society’s best of the best. But I’m biased, but it’s a legitimate and worthy bias as you will realize after chatting and sharing with folks.
So glad you are here with us, Done.
🙂
Peace, Love and Joy to/for all……xxooxxooxx
Oh…I wholeheartedly second what Jen stated.
Not to be harsh or cruel to NoPainNoGain but in sincerely wanting her to preserve her welfare, safety and sanity.
NPNG, what you are experiencing with the psychopath is absolute and total torture. You ARE being systematically, cold heartedly, ruthlessly tortured. There ain’t no other way to say it. It is truth, reality as you are living it.
What I visualize for you, in not fleeing from the predator with only the clothes on your back if that’s necessary, is a continuing down ward spiral into the blackest pit of doom and despair. And I’m not being melodramatic by saying this. It will be your future if you don’t immediately run from this humanoid.
I consider it imperative that you seek to leave him as fast as your lovely feet can take you. Hell, I’d live under a tree if I had to just to save myself from the harrowing torment of being abused and used day in and day out. But, I can’t live with anyone except critters so…there’s that.
Please, NPNG, please doll….don’t let this continue. It is murdering your soul. I see it all in black and white and I fervently wish for you to save yourself in whatever way you can.
Choose life, sweetheart. Choose liberty and relief from such horrible, nightmarish tyranny that has usurped your precious soul.
You deserve better. Keep reminding yourself of this truth and hopefully you will make the right and self preserving choice to leave. And leave fast.
With love and hope,
Kimberley
Oops…My post was to AllpainNoGain.
I apologize for the incorrect usage. I’m a space cadet at times.
But my fervent plea, meaning to her is clear.
Get away as fast as you can, APNG.