Editor’s note: The following story was submitted by a Lovefraud reader whom we’ll call “Marsha” about the coldest man she’s ever known.
I just wanted to write and share my story. I did some research on all the characteristics of what makes someone a sociopath. My father is a psychologist and knew my situation. He had mentioned the concept that my ex-fiance was a sociopath after everything that happened to me and I didn’t think to ask him more about what that meant. After exploring this site with the symptoms, I realized that my dad was 100 percent right. Here’s my story:
When I met my ex-fiance, it was through a mutual friend. He was charming, funny and seemed to be very witty and smart. He displayed himself as a go-getter, very ambitious, etc. We were friends for several months when our relationship seemed to get more serious. It was around that same time that I was living in an apartment that I loved within five minutes of my workplace. He lived in a fairly expensive high-rise condo on the beach, a condo that he owned, whereas I was renting.
He was a mortgage broker at the time and the housing market was steadily headed into the downfall. As we continued to date, his job stability as a broker seemed to be in question. Sure enough, about six to eight months into our relationship, he lost his job working for one of the major banks as they had some layoffs. He faced the challenge of paying his bills and mortgage in his condo as he waited for the opportunity of new employment.
Moving in with him
He created this idea that our relationship was headed in the right direction and that he “loved me.” He advised that really the only thing to do at this point would be to move in together. He urged me to quickly move into his condo so that we could play house in a sense and combine our incomes. Looking back I realize just how much I was duped.
I decided to give up my wonderful, beautiful, convenient apartment to move 30-45 minutes across the town to his location. I began paying him rent, month after month and not really seeing where the money was going. It turns out he was saving the money with plans to not pay the mortgage and lead his own self into foreclosure. He then anticipated that since we were not married he could just short sale the property in my name.
Now during all of this time, I let a lot of these financial plans slide through the cracks. I trusted him and figured that he had a plan. I didn’t know that this was a true con artist act in disguise.
During the span of time that I lived with him, he had kept in contact with an ex-girlfriend and stated that they had to keep in touch because he had known her for so long and that she was a friend. Again, I let this slide, even though I didn’t like the thought of it. Mainly because the communication was often and not of real purpose. Flirtatious, in many ways.
The marriage proposal
After one year of dating and living together I truly felt that I was in love with him. He proposed to me but even the proposal was cold and emotionless. We were arguing one afternoon and he laid the ring on the table showing that he had gotten the ring and that this should get me to stay.
This was never what I would have thought my proposal from the love of my life would have been like but again, love is blind and the sociopath can find a way to have you hanging onto a relationship that you know deep down doesn’t make sense.
He wanted silence
Needless to say, after several additional months his personality began to change and change and change. I never knew what personality I would get on any given day. He was oftentimes very irritable and mean. He was cold. I would come home from work and he would state that he couldn’t talk to me, he wanted silence. He would spend nights upon nights sleeping on the couch (by choice). What young engaged man chooses to sleep on the couch and not in the bed with his woman by choice?
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It was as though all he cared about was the money that I was paying and the plans for the short sale.
He would talk sometimes about how people always betrayed him growing up and that he blames his father for being abusive. But, he rarely ever showed affection — kisses, hugs, terms of endearment.
I made excuses
I always would make excuses for him and say to myself — He’s just going through a lot right now —or he really cares, he just doesn’t know how to show it. Yet, over time it just seemed to be that he was purposefully being emotionally abusive and standoffish. He told me that I was too close to my family and should cut the close ties. It was almost as if he was jealous of my close relationship with my family and didn’t want that closeness to continue on.
Looking back, I realize that he didn’t want anyone else to figure him out. He didn’t want anyone else to realize that he was a fake, a fraud and that his love wasn’t real. His love didn’t mean anything.
He would always find a way to charm me, or reel me back in like a fish out of water, when I started to question his intentions or when I would take a stand. Then, there were other days where he just really didn’t give a crap.
I can’t say enough how this was the coldest man I’ve ever known.
Charmed again
After additional communication between he and his ex surfaced, along with his decision to allow a buddy of his (male) to come stay in our house for well beyond a few weeks, without asking me of course. I decided it was time for some separation. Although separation was there I still missed him. After a few days, he charmed me again and offered the possibility of my coming back home and things changing.
I came back, of course, and things didn’t change and he was as aloof as he had always been. The problem was that I still loved him and wanted to marry him, wanted to change him. Within a few additional days something very devastating took place — He cut the ties of the relationship with as much care or emotion as a gravedigger. Again, it was cold and at this point he devastated my life — he told me that he just couldn’t deal with this anymore and couldn’t be in a relationship.
After all I had sacrificed emotionally and financially, he was just easily done with everything. I took steps to move out. After that point, he didn’t call; he didn’t attempt to communicate at all.
I would have never been happy
At first, I went through hell. Replaying the events and wondering what I could’ve done differently. But looking back, he just wanted to live by his own rules — he clearly was a sociopath.
What is he doing now? I hear he is still living in the same place, filed bankruptcy and works out all the time to make himself look more muscular. He dabbles into drugs and is even further down the wrong path.
I’m just happy that I got out because I would’ve never been happy. He had no care or concern for anyone but his own self. I tried not to blame myself or get depressed. I try to realize that people like this, I call them users, don’t have a heart. They don’t care! They are truly sociopaths and will do whatever they can to win and to live by their own set of rules.
Please learn from my lesson.
Learn more: Sociopathic seduction — How you got hooked and why you stayed
Lovefraud originally posted this story on April 30, 2009.
Oh Tilly:
We don’t always ‘see’ the Karma, and don’t for a second believe they are happy….remember it’s the facade. If you were to meet my S you would think he was the happiest guy on earth…Walt Disney….I know, I really know….as long as I spent with him, I do know he is miserable….always needing to be in control of someone, always creating drama somewhere, moving from one place to another searching for the right supply. I want peace, stability and ‘normal’ relationships with neighbors, friends and the community. S’s are not happy! They don’t know the meaning….it’ll hit em……
You need to make someone aware of his harrassment….you must stop being intimidated by him!!!
DO NOT REACT, do not give any impression you are the ‘unstable’ one. Keep your integrity at all costs. Eventually, people will see the truth. Expose him silently, plant seeds….but be careful.
For me there is some sort of revengeful joy I get from seeing his demise. Knowing he has NO relationship with his family….watching ‘friends’ drop like flies….I am not worried about another woman….go get em baby….that keeps him in supply, so I don’t step on that one. He expects that I will be upset with that…he flaunts it every time we are in court and I don’t react….it throws him for a loop. I used to be jelouse when we were together, this was something he loved to feed….so he thinks that’s a hot button for me.
On all fronts, I stop, think and do not react immediately. i do not need to be around to watch him squirm (although at the deposition it was glorious), I am satisfied just knowing that he’s squirming! I trained myself to do exactly the OPPOSITE of what I want to do at the time. If I feel like crying, I laugh, if I feel like yelling, I don’t speak, if I feel like calling him, I do not. I am in control! (At least I try to be ) When I am not, I leark on LF and remind myself of the horror.
Please, hear me when I say this…..I lived with the BS for so long, walking on eggshells, trying to make it work etc…..the price I paid was with my health! It was a huge wake up call. 2 strokes, cancer and a dissected carotid artery! As I have said before, this changes a gal! Ya think!
I say….when you take the fear out of dying, there is nothing else to fear!!! I am prepared to protect myself and go after him with a vengence now. Take back whatever has been taken from me and then some. Every threat he made to me….I’m going to take you to the cleaners…..well I’m turning it all on him now. Because he is a stupid S, and he knows I have way more sense than him…..he knows I am tenacious, he knows I will fight for what is right. He was just banking on the fact that my health would give out. No, I’m not ready to die….but I will not lay down and let him walk over me for another second! This is my strength. I am in full battle mode. But I do it like a stealth. I am playing the S game right back at em! Maybe when he loses everything….he will not be so hasty to fuark with the wrong person again. Maybe just maybe he will be forced to think twice….but I am sure there is another victim just waiting to ‘help’ him out….poor S….she took everything…..oh, what a beech! YOU BETCHA!
It took him by surprise, shock……he can’t in any way predict how I will react any more. He has no idea how my health conditions changed me, because he denied them, tortured me through them, extended my pain, eliminated my support…..and guesss what? I AM STILL HERE!
I have a funny story….after I found out I had cancer and surgery etc… He had taken my car. His car was a beater, because he didnt’ take care of it, no repairs etc….I had asked for my car back, no response….several times, no response….one night I went over in the middle of the night and traded cars with him…..took all his stuff out of my car and took my car back! Changed the locks and employed the security system. He was PEEZZED off when he went out to find HIS car in his space! He let his guard down because he didnt think i would have the strength to do this after getting out of hospital…..knowing that…..I FOUND THE STRENGTH! DIdn’t take the pain pills one day,,,,just so I could go and get my car, by myself at 4 am in the foul weather, and not involve anyone else. I STILL crack up over that! But, I now know….all the stuff I covertly took back, I am so glad I did, because I would never had seen it again….now I know how the courts work! In the beginning, I played by the rules….now I play by his rules. So far, it has served me well.
My dear, stay strong, develop a plan YOU can live with and move it into gear….whatever your plan may be! Whatever is in YOUR best interests.
I just knew, for me, that I had almost given him my life….and in my case…..he wasn’t gonna get another thing. Things are things really.
Decide if the anger is worth dying over….because it’s killing you….which translates into…..he’s killing you from afar.
I say…whatever you do, do it covertly. Remember, loose lips sink ships! It might be just as easy to retreat and let it go and heal yourself. It’s your call darling. Weigh your options, take your time.
Have you also thought about contacting the vet who implanted the chip to see what advise he can give?
We all learn from each other …..some days we have strength to give some days we need to take…..some days we do both.
Good luck…..and we all care!!!
Thankyou so much ErinBrockovich…wow you are ten times stronger than she ever was!
He has already tried to have me charged with break and enter when I hav’nt even done it! I admit it, I was thinking about it, but lucky I didn’t because thats what he wanted. Luckily, the police laughed at his complaint of B and E because it was so far fetched. Plus my P was a dentist and he also told them I stole his patients files and x-rays…so the police reminded him that it is a federal offence to have your patients files etc. in your own home! But I guess there was a bigger plan going on for the p..I imagine that he would be trying to cover his insurance fraud hence the allegations at me.
My last psychopath had me jailed (he was a solicitor and he took my grandmothers inheritance from me and my house) and put in the mental institution!
So I am as angry and as “pithed off” as you are, believe me!
My P dentist knows what the solicitor did and how devastated I was. So as soon as my criminal records were dropped in the court of appeal (that same week) he called the police on me and made up a story similar. That was how we broke up. But this time I didn’t have my home and all my money stolen. Just my dog and what little was left. Mostly sentimental.
I believe he is expecting me to break and enter to get my things or to go to his daughters and take my dog.
That is why I can’t do it.
Thankyou so much. You are a billion times stronger than Erin Brockovich ever was!
Oxybubblicious,
I don’t think I’m super duper wise but thank you very much for the touching praise. I respect the heck outta you, I really do.
I’m just logical, practical and rational and I truelly wish for Allpainnogain to realize the horrible soul-siphoning nightmare situation she is living, every day and every night.
She needs to leave the psychopath today. Now, before something tragic happens to her or she is party to a tragedy that causes irreparable damage.
Please do the right thing for yourself, APNG.
Leave……..
Sounds afmiliar, except ine ended it fro women he ahd only met that day…jsut turned off as if I had never meant anything to him, dissed our marriage the works..he return and i welciome back and try extra hard to please him..WTF is that about.
Can somebody please tell me”..if I close a child support case..so I can be done with this S”as there isnt any custody agreement or order in place”can I do that..just close it the child support case..not get anything..(like I ever would)”and be done??? please let me know as I cant deal with him anymore..I have an ulcer now from all of this crap! HELP
Hi Muldoon,
I know exactly what you mean. I would always end up apologizing and working extra hard to keep my S happy when he should have been apologizing to me. WTF is right! He had this amazing ability to turn things around and make me feel like the crazy one. After reading everyone’s stories it sounds like that’s a pretty typical skill of these people.
A couple times today I found myself thinking about him and thinking “oh maybe I’m overreacting maybe he’s not really a sociopath” but I’m so glad I came home and got on this site to remind me to never speak to him again!
His mom called my parents house yesterday to wish my mom a happy mother’s day. She is old and crazy (not in an evil way tho) and I feel sorry for her, but she has no idea the hell her son has put me through the last 10 years. She loves me so I’m sure when she asks him about me he tells her everything is wonderful, even when he’s blowing me off or cheating or just being a general a-hole. She’s a nice old lady, and I feel bad that she has this awful son, but do you think it would be breaking the no contact rule if I answer her calls? She is very fragile and mentally ill (maybe that’s where he gets it from) and I don’t think that telling her the truth would do anyone any good. Should I just suck it up and speak to her, and just tell her I’m not speaking with her son anymore?
ErinBrockovich- thanks for the tip. I will check out that site. I am in Dallas. I definitely don’t need to see a psychiatrist, bc I’m not the crazy one I don’t need drugs (not to insinuate that those who may need the assistance of any meds are crazy). I just want someone who is familiar with these types of people to listen to me so that I can get some validation.
So in one hour it will be one week since he called to tell me he didn’t love me, wasn’t moving in, was f-ing someone else etc… and I’m sure he thinks I have spent this week crying and plotting ways to win him back. I bet he is shocked that his phone hasn’t rang…and it makes me happy to think how shocked he’ll be in a month when I still haven’t called him. I appreciate what you said about the highs/lows but I can’t help being happy that this week my strength has stuck around…and for the first time in years I feel free and like I am in control!
Could I finally be done letting him control my every emotion??? Thank GOD! I hope so.
Tilly–I can imagine how frustrating it must be to have that jerk using your dog against you. If the police or animal control can’t help, maybe it would be better to go adopt a new puppy at a shelter, there are tons that need homes. Good luck getting your dog back (and succeeding at it unscathed)!
Dearest ALLPAIN- Where are you? I havent found a recent post from you, maybe I missed it ,but wanted to see how you are doing. I pray that you are doing well. Please let us hear that you are okay. Take care girl!
Dear Muldoon,
I am SO GLAD you are back on Love fraud. How was your medical test outcome? Are you okay? I was thinking about you today and wondering how you are.
Is he gone again? Oh, I hope so. I hope he has a new woman and will leave you and your children alone! I pray for that! He will never be happy, or make a woman happy, and he will abuse her too, I just want him to leav e you alone! I know how he made you suffer and I so hope he is gone.
Please stay here and learn more and heal!!!! You and the children can be happy, happier than you have ever been with that monster in your life! ((hugs))) and prayers for you my dear!
Dear oxdrover.
awaiting biopsy results, suffering stress and on all kinds of medication..he is gone, by my hand not his, no tears from me this time I am now immune to it all, all the callousness and abandonment has only served to harden me..
As said previous tonight he soon slipped into his ways, but this time aroundI just followed suit, intstead of the usual creeping and engraciating when he turned silent, I turned silent too, when he accused me of being hard, callous whatever I said maybe now you know how it feels..although it didnt immediately work, he gave in..
Then on saturday gone he showed a lack of regard to our daughter, I didnt think twice and kicked him out, called the police when he refused to go and refused to back down
The shit part is when he nice he nice and he very good with the wages..its the mental stuff, the walking on egg shells, the kids and me whispering when he in his mood so he doesnt have anything to start over..
my life has defiantely changed and its because of stuff I learnt here.
I saw one of his vampire daughters in the street today. The one he gave my dog to. She is a definite psychopath bitch. The Psychopath has put a restraining order on me so I can’t go near any of them. She didn’t see me.
I wanted to go up to her and say, ” I have given a statement to the police that you have stolen my dog”. But I knew she would ring her P father and tell the police I spoke to her or worse. So I didn’t do anything. I just watched her walk down the street. When i got home there was a letter from the vet saying my dog was way overdue for her vaccination.
My blood boils and I am so sad. As soon as I can I am going to get a big trained dog like Oxdrover, one that will grab someones thoat on command.
But first i have to get a place bigger than one room!