Editor’s note: The following story was submitted by a Lovefraud reader whom we’ll call “Marsha” about the coldest man she’s ever known.
I just wanted to write and share my story. I did some research on all the characteristics of what makes someone a sociopath. My father is a psychologist and knew my situation. He had mentioned the concept that my ex-fiance was a sociopath after everything that happened to me and I didn’t think to ask him more about what that meant. After exploring this site with the symptoms, I realized that my dad was 100 percent right. Here’s my story:
When I met my ex-fiance, it was through a mutual friend. He was charming, funny and seemed to be very witty and smart. He displayed himself as a go-getter, very ambitious, etc. We were friends for several months when our relationship seemed to get more serious. It was around that same time that I was living in an apartment that I loved within five minutes of my workplace. He lived in a fairly expensive high-rise condo on the beach, a condo that he owned, whereas I was renting.
He was a mortgage broker at the time and the housing market was steadily headed into the downfall. As we continued to date, his job stability as a broker seemed to be in question. Sure enough, about six to eight months into our relationship, he lost his job working for one of the major banks as they had some layoffs. He faced the challenge of paying his bills and mortgage in his condo as he waited for the opportunity of new employment.
Moving in with him
He created this idea that our relationship was headed in the right direction and that he “loved me.” He advised that really the only thing to do at this point would be to move in together. He urged me to quickly move into his condo so that we could play house in a sense and combine our incomes. Looking back I realize just how much I was duped.
I decided to give up my wonderful, beautiful, convenient apartment to move 30-45 minutes across the town to his location. I began paying him rent, month after month and not really seeing where the money was going. It turns out he was saving the money with plans to not pay the mortgage and lead his own self into foreclosure. He then anticipated that since we were not married he could just short sale the property in my name.
Now during all of this time, I let a lot of these financial plans slide through the cracks. I trusted him and figured that he had a plan. I didn’t know that this was a true con artist act in disguise.
During the span of time that I lived with him, he had kept in contact with an ex-girlfriend and stated that they had to keep in touch because he had known her for so long and that she was a friend. Again, I let this slide, even though I didn’t like the thought of it. Mainly because the communication was often and not of real purpose. Flirtatious, in many ways.
The marriage proposal
After one year of dating and living together I truly felt that I was in love with him. He proposed to me but even the proposal was cold and emotionless. We were arguing one afternoon and he laid the ring on the table showing that he had gotten the ring and that this should get me to stay.
This was never what I would have thought my proposal from the love of my life would have been like but again, love is blind and the sociopath can find a way to have you hanging onto a relationship that you know deep down doesn’t make sense.
He wanted silence
Needless to say, after several additional months his personality began to change and change and change. I never knew what personality I would get on any given day. He was oftentimes very irritable and mean. He was cold. I would come home from work and he would state that he couldn’t talk to me, he wanted silence. He would spend nights upon nights sleeping on the couch (by choice). What young engaged man chooses to sleep on the couch and not in the bed with his woman by choice?
Read more: Seduced by a sociopath — it’s not love, it’s love fraud
It was as though all he cared about was the money that I was paying and the plans for the short sale.
He would talk sometimes about how people always betrayed him growing up and that he blames his father for being abusive. But, he rarely ever showed affection — kisses, hugs, terms of endearment.
I made excuses
I always would make excuses for him and say to myself — He’s just going through a lot right now —or he really cares, he just doesn’t know how to show it. Yet, over time it just seemed to be that he was purposefully being emotionally abusive and standoffish. He told me that I was too close to my family and should cut the close ties. It was almost as if he was jealous of my close relationship with my family and didn’t want that closeness to continue on.
Looking back, I realize that he didn’t want anyone else to figure him out. He didn’t want anyone else to realize that he was a fake, a fraud and that his love wasn’t real. His love didn’t mean anything.
He would always find a way to charm me, or reel me back in like a fish out of water, when I started to question his intentions or when I would take a stand. Then, there were other days where he just really didn’t give a crap.
I can’t say enough how this was the coldest man I’ve ever known.
Charmed again
After additional communication between he and his ex surfaced, along with his decision to allow a buddy of his (male) to come stay in our house for well beyond a few weeks, without asking me of course. I decided it was time for some separation. Although separation was there I still missed him. After a few days, he charmed me again and offered the possibility of my coming back home and things changing.
I came back, of course, and things didn’t change and he was as aloof as he had always been. The problem was that I still loved him and wanted to marry him, wanted to change him. Within a few additional days something very devastating took place — He cut the ties of the relationship with as much care or emotion as a gravedigger. Again, it was cold and at this point he devastated my life — he told me that he just couldn’t deal with this anymore and couldn’t be in a relationship.
After all I had sacrificed emotionally and financially, he was just easily done with everything. I took steps to move out. After that point, he didn’t call; he didn’t attempt to communicate at all.
I would have never been happy
At first, I went through hell. Replaying the events and wondering what I could’ve done differently. But looking back, he just wanted to live by his own rules — he clearly was a sociopath.
What is he doing now? I hear he is still living in the same place, filed bankruptcy and works out all the time to make himself look more muscular. He dabbles into drugs and is even further down the wrong path.
I’m just happy that I got out because I would’ve never been happy. He had no care or concern for anyone but his own self. I tried not to blame myself or get depressed. I try to realize that people like this, I call them users, don’t have a heart. They don’t care! They are truly sociopaths and will do whatever they can to win and to live by their own set of rules.
Please learn from my lesson.
Learn more: Sociopathic seduction — How you got hooked and why you stayed
Lovefraud originally posted this story on April 30, 2009.
Gang, I can completely understand your desire for revenge, to make them hurt and suffer…it is the natural and normal response to being injured deliberately.
That said, though, that kind of feeling, if held on to and “nursed” starts to be like anything in this life that isn’t taken with MODERATION, it starts to EAT AT YOUR SOUL. It doesn’t hurt them at all, but it eats at your soul like a cancer.
After the plane crash this creep who owned the land across the road from us where my husband’s plane crashed sued ME for $50,000 because my husband “trespassed” on his land and HE NEEDED MONEY TO MAKE HIM FEEL BETTER, it was all such a big EMOTIONAL SHOCK TO HIM!—–He didn’t get a dime, but it went as far as a deposition. It added stress to my already chaotic life. By the time it came to the deposition, I had already lost my husband and my step father and has PTSD pretty badly.
I wanted this creep to DIE! I laid awake nights wanting to shoot him, first in the foot and work my way up to his ankle then knee and so on, just to hear him whine. What kind of creep would sue the widow of a man who burned to death? Not for damaages to his place, but because it “upset him emotionally” It TRAUMATIZED HIM? I hated him, I wanted to kill him!
But after a while, as much as I genuinely wanted him dead, it started to “fester” like a BOIL ON MY SOUL….it was turning me into a bitter nasty old woman. Not that he didn’t deserve to suffer for what he did out of malice and greed, but I iwas becoming WORSE than he was in the way I was thinking.
The word “wrath” is defined by a raging vengeful anger, and the Bible says “Let not the sun go down upon your wrath.” Even Jesus in my estimation didn’t find anything wrong with being ANGRY, as he told his disciples, “Be angry and sin not” (don’t use your anger as an excuse to do bad things) but he cautioned his disciples not to hang on to the wrath, not even over night. My take on this is that WRATH is corrosive to the person who holds on to it.
To me, finally letting go of it (and believe me it was a struggle) lightened the burden of pain and injury I had to carry. It let me NOT think about the man who sued me. I will never be GLAD he sued me, but I am at a point now that I can actually LAUGH ABOUT THE AUDACITY OF IT!
After it was settled (he got NOTHING!) he literally was driven out of the community, picked up and moved! It wasn’t that he had “shame” (do they ever?!! LOL) but he wanted everyone to think of him as a “good man” so he moved on to where people didn’t know him and he could pretend (at least for a while) that he was a good neighbor. I don[‘t have to “revenge” myself on this man, he is his OWN WORST ENEMY. For the rest of his life he will continue to try to “make friends” by acting like he THINKS will make people look up to him and like him, but his social skills are so poor (along with his lack of hygiene) that he will never have a neighbor or a “friend” that isn’t disgusted with his presence. What could be worse, really, than for him to live and be continually unhappy? I don’t have to worry about revenging myself on him, he is doing it himself. Now I can move on to more positive aspects. When I am thinking about hurting him, I am NOT at PEACE and in a CALM and GOOD PLACE….my hate keeps me focused on HIM and rents him space in my head.
I will never understand what makes them so evil, so greedy, so nasty…but I don’t want to be LIKE THEM. Plotting revenge is what they do BEST. Being hateful, is their cup of tea. I don’t want to be LIKE THEM.
OxDrover,
I agree that rage, like anything is best in moderation. I wouldn’t want to become so caught up in seeking revenge that I become no better than the S. However, I think that the anger is necessary, especially in the early stages because the alternative to being angry for me right now would be crying or calling or spending day upon day trying to figure out “why” and going through “what if I had done x or y differently.” I need that anger to keep me from letting him come back once his new girl runs out of money.
And- I can’t BELIEVE that your neighbor would do that!!! What a jerk! I guess I can believe, it, considering why we are all here. But I never cease to be shocked and amazed at the actions of these people!
Matt,
I agree, categories would be nice. Another category could be Money/Property/Dignity lost, and why only the last one is worth getting back.
my cancer is smoke related..I gave up….the day I came home from hospital he lit me fag after fag and said go on smoke yourself to death….hurry up and die, I smoked them all and now back on twenty a day..he always kicks off at worst moments…not sure if planned or coincidence..cold as ice.
OxDrover,
Of course you are right. But it is much easier said than done. And besides, as soon as he had to move you got your revenge and so could forget it anyway. What better revenge is there than to have them banished from the community in fear and shame? None if you ask me.
Good Morning GoodGrief,
I just spent some time trying to help you UNBLOCK your BLOCKED memory …to help you remember …as you put a new letter together…
Unfortunately, I lost most of the stuff I copied and pasted…but enough for you to unjog that blocked memory… I just went back to your original honest raw real posts under The coldest man ever” April 2009 archives…its all there..the way she treated you, DURING RELATIONSHIP…and the things you let go in one ear and out the other…and turned a blind cheek to. Was thinking apple doesnt fall far from tree…you mention her mom has a history of LOTS OF MEN…also thinking if you want info about her straight up…contact that cousin…. she will probably tell you all the things you know in your heart but dont want to hear…you just want her FAKE WORDS BACK and THE FAKE HER BACK !!!!
Fasten your seatbelt… take off the goggles this time…
She seriously was the best thing I ever had, but maybe she just morphed into what she thought I wanted…
WHO PACKED HER AND MOVED HER ACROSS COUNTRY?
fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me
her cousin comes up to me at the party and asks what we we’re doing now that we arent together. im like “what?” she says that her mom told her that we had broken up and even went as far to say that she told her mom to thank me on her behalf for moving her there despit e the fact we weren’t together anymore?????
FACEBOOK….OVER A YEAR IN A RELATIONSHP WITH HER AND SHE DOESNT PUT THAT AS HER STATUS.. GIVES EXCUSE CUZ OF STALKER..”TRUTH IS SHE IS A LIAR AND DIDNT WANT TO BLOW HER COVER WITH OTHERS” THEN ONE DAY OUT OF BLUE SHE PUTS IT UP
= WHY IS STALKER BEHIND BARS AND ITS SAFE??? NOPE SHE IS PROB WITH SOMEONE ELSE, BUT DECIDES TO TELL YOU SHE WAS JUST DOING IT TO APPEASE YOU…
And the biggest red flag if all”she calls me while out running errands and says shes traveling 6. Hours south for the weekend for a girlfriends 30th bday party be it’s girls only! HA HA HA…
I’m a little suspicious and before she leaves and check to see if her birth control is under the sink and it’s missing.
I look a little bit and can’t find if and shes spins it around to me being paranoid and if she told anyone what I did they’d tell her shes crazy for being with me after displaying that kind of untrust. CLASSIC…AND YOU DIDNT FEEL LONELY?
a few days later I catch her on the phone in her bathroom late at night and I hear her say “I was just calling to say hi—when she comes out I ask who it was and shes says her sister which I told her I know I’d a lie cuz it was so late out west and she lives east and had to work in morning”she changes her answer and says it was the girl who’s bday party she went to and she had texted her with some guy emergency”well why would u say u were calling to say hi then?????? She apolofized and ssid she was trying to mskd me jealous”bulkshit”I freaking lost it and was out the door for good and she i’d begging ms to stay be apologizing fit her poor judgement in trying to make me jealous”
mind u I had never heard of this girlfriend of hers before or since”I looked for her phone for 40 minutes cuz she hid it and when I found it all #’s were cleared”
I lost it again and she even tried to soften my rage byvoffering sex which I was like hell no”took a long time of her convincing ms to stay and a long time to gain her trust on my part again but I did
”looking back I realize what probably happened and she may have gotten a kick out of it”what a sucker but I just didn’t know then that she was capable of something do devious and I wanted to believe her. \
man would I love to ask her about that and so many other things now…
YOU WONT…THE TRUTH WOULD CRUSH YOU…SO YOU TRY TO JUST GET HER BACK AND BLOCK OUT THE TRUTHES…. SOME MORE
I changed my whole life plan in a matter of weeks and decided to put my career on hold (on my own) and move back west to be with you and to take care of you during your surgery” BAD MOVE ON YOUR PART…TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF FIRST
I was there at the police station for the stalker thing, never expecting that you’d treat me like him. Never. (This is the same guy she runs into at a bar after stalking accusations and goes back to his place to “hang out” …omg GG… shes a trainwreck…WAKE UP GG!!
I paid for the last months rent because I knew you weren’t physically ready to go yet and I knew you wanted to deal with your bankruptcy out there. OMG
I loaned you 700 dollars and even went and deposited it for you and you never thanked me or paid me back. OMG>>>OMG>>> OMG
I packed and moved you to Michigan.
I bought you the best pair of earrings even though I couldn’t afford it.
I got us a house here that allowed all of our pets and I offered to pay all of the rent to make you moving here as easy as possible. You said you’d move here. SHE WAS JUST TALKING…
I offered to pay to move you here and was going to come there and do it all myself. SHE DIDNT WANT TO
I took you to a football game, the aquarium on your second birthday, a comedy show and we had so much fun together. Everyday we had fun just being together. SHE WENT…IT WAS FREE, FUN, WHATEVER…YOU WERE IN LOVE!
I feel like I was always there for you and that I never let you down.
I bought us a xmas tree so that we’d have a nice xmas together even though you wanted to leave me there alone.
I got you 2 great anniversary gifts and you never even acknowledged them or thanked me. I put a lot of thought and time into that stupid calendar.
I sent you a great anniversary card and you never sent me one even though your mom makes them.
I bought you a $300 phish ticket as a welcoming present because you said you wanted to go and now I’m stuck with it.
When you wrote that you were ready to go I cleared money off my credit card and researched flights and truck rental options.
Too bad we all can’t step back from our situations and see them through they eyes of others, that can tell clearly that we are being had. I haven’t got to the archives yet, but reading that recap above made me angry for GG and also made me think of how much crap I’ve put up with. I used to think I was the only one in the world that would put up with so much BS.
Also, I just bought U2 tix for their show in Chicago in September bc my S wanted to go, $250 that I didn’t really have. I like U2, but I hate Bono and would never have bought them except he wanted to go, and promised that he would go with me (even though it was several months in the future) and that he would pay me back when he got the money. Well guess who’s gone again and didn’t pay me back? When we had our last conversation (ever I pray) he acted like it was no big deal, said “those tickets will be easy to sell” and the day I got the tickets I had expected him to be excited, he did afterall practically beg me to get them. Instead, he said, “I’ll tell you thank you after we actually go to the concert. How do I know you’ll even take me.” uhhh…bc I keep my word unlike you’re worthless ass!!!!!! Well he was right of course, bc I’m not taking him. This is a perfect example of how he will turn things around. If I were to talk to him again whenever he decides to come back around, I know he would bring this up and use it to prove that he was “right” and he knew all along I wouldn’t take him to the show so why should he have thanked me. Well he knew all along bc he must have known I’d find out about the other woman or some other crazy bs that he did and get mad and not take him! I wish he’d freaking die!!!!
Sorry I am EXTRA angry the last few days. But I think it’s good because I have not been this angry before. I’ve been livid, but always forgave, or justified, and returned. Not this time.
Also, I spent $1400 on airline tickets to visit him after he said he’d changed and wanted to get married and all this other bs. When I showed up, he didn’t answer his door, so I had to sleep on his porch until a friend of his came to pick me up. The next day I went to see him (thinking maybe he fell asleep and didn’t hear the door or some other ridiculous scenario) and he was leaving with this woman who he had told me he had left bc she wasn’t right for him and blah blah blah. WHY THE HELL would you tell me to come visit you, and then have your other girlfiend over. I cannot believe I still went back to him after all of this, bc he was somehow able to turn the whole thing around and have me doubting myself and giving him the benefit of the doubt. and oh SURPRISE, I moved across teh country (for a job in his city) and not two months later he is back with this other woman-out of the blue. IF he even ever left her. I hope his hair catches on fire.
Also, I’m so happy to have found this site because now that I am in this city 1200 miles away from all my friends, the only person I know is the S, his sister, and a few people that I work with. It’s very hard trying to get over this when everything here reminds me of him and I have no friends to take me out and drown my sorrows. I would just move back, but it cost $8K to move out here, and I absolutely LOVE my job and coworkers. I can’t believe out of all the cities in the world, I would get hired and have to move to this one where I was promptly sucked back in by the S. I am determined that he will not ruin my job, this city, or my life…but he is doing a dang good job of trying!
Done:
I know well the anger at yourself and the S when he does something so reprehensible and obvious — right under your nose — and you still accepted it at face value. A memory that is indelibly burned into my brain was going up to a friend’s roof garden and seeing S stretched out on a lounge chair, shirt unbuttoned all the way, with some guy leaning over him.
The guy beat a hasty retreat. S’s bullshit excuse? I was drunk and hot and opened my shirt. And I accepted that excuse. I can’t decide who deserves to have an “S” branded on his forehead — S and the “S” would stand for sociopath or me and the “S” would stand for stupid.
I’m past the hair catching fire stage. I”ve decided the only thing a sociopath understands is dollars and cents. So, I’ve started letting all those creditors holding unsatisfied judgments against S know where he lives and where he works. I want them to attach every damned penny of his paycheck. That he will understand.
I guess the ‘S’ branding would be appropriate on many levels, bc after it’s done standing for stupid it could stand for smart for being here now.