Editor’s note: The following story was submitted by a Lovefraud reader whom we’ll call “Marsha” about the coldest man she’s ever known.
I just wanted to write and share my story. I did some research on all the characteristics of what makes someone a sociopath. My father is a psychologist and knew my situation. He had mentioned the concept that my ex-fiance was a sociopath after everything that happened to me and I didn’t think to ask him more about what that meant. After exploring this site with the symptoms, I realized that my dad was 100 percent right. Here’s my story:
When I met my ex-fiance, it was through a mutual friend. He was charming, funny and seemed to be very witty and smart. He displayed himself as a go-getter, very ambitious, etc. We were friends for several months when our relationship seemed to get more serious. It was around that same time that I was living in an apartment that I loved within five minutes of my workplace. He lived in a fairly expensive high-rise condo on the beach, a condo that he owned, whereas I was renting.
He was a mortgage broker at the time and the housing market was steadily headed into the downfall. As we continued to date, his job stability as a broker seemed to be in question. Sure enough, about six to eight months into our relationship, he lost his job working for one of the major banks as they had some layoffs. He faced the challenge of paying his bills and mortgage in his condo as he waited for the opportunity of new employment.
Moving in with him
He created this idea that our relationship was headed in the right direction and that he “loved me.” He advised that really the only thing to do at this point would be to move in together. He urged me to quickly move into his condo so that we could play house in a sense and combine our incomes. Looking back I realize just how much I was duped.
I decided to give up my wonderful, beautiful, convenient apartment to move 30-45 minutes across the town to his location. I began paying him rent, month after month and not really seeing where the money was going. It turns out he was saving the money with plans to not pay the mortgage and lead his own self into foreclosure. He then anticipated that since we were not married he could just short sale the property in my name.
Now during all of this time, I let a lot of these financial plans slide through the cracks. I trusted him and figured that he had a plan. I didn’t know that this was a true con artist act in disguise.
During the span of time that I lived with him, he had kept in contact with an ex-girlfriend and stated that they had to keep in touch because he had known her for so long and that she was a friend. Again, I let this slide, even though I didn’t like the thought of it. Mainly because the communication was often and not of real purpose. Flirtatious, in many ways.
The marriage proposal
After one year of dating and living together I truly felt that I was in love with him. He proposed to me but even the proposal was cold and emotionless. We were arguing one afternoon and he laid the ring on the table showing that he had gotten the ring and that this should get me to stay.
This was never what I would have thought my proposal from the love of my life would have been like but again, love is blind and the sociopath can find a way to have you hanging onto a relationship that you know deep down doesn’t make sense.
He wanted silence
Needless to say, after several additional months his personality began to change and change and change. I never knew what personality I would get on any given day. He was oftentimes very irritable and mean. He was cold. I would come home from work and he would state that he couldn’t talk to me, he wanted silence. He would spend nights upon nights sleeping on the couch (by choice). What young engaged man chooses to sleep on the couch and not in the bed with his woman by choice?
Read more: Seduced by a sociopath — it’s not love, it’s love fraud
It was as though all he cared about was the money that I was paying and the plans for the short sale.
He would talk sometimes about how people always betrayed him growing up and that he blames his father for being abusive. But, he rarely ever showed affection — kisses, hugs, terms of endearment.
I made excuses
I always would make excuses for him and say to myself — He’s just going through a lot right now —or he really cares, he just doesn’t know how to show it. Yet, over time it just seemed to be that he was purposefully being emotionally abusive and standoffish. He told me that I was too close to my family and should cut the close ties. It was almost as if he was jealous of my close relationship with my family and didn’t want that closeness to continue on.
Looking back, I realize that he didn’t want anyone else to figure him out. He didn’t want anyone else to realize that he was a fake, a fraud and that his love wasn’t real. His love didn’t mean anything.
He would always find a way to charm me, or reel me back in like a fish out of water, when I started to question his intentions or when I would take a stand. Then, there were other days where he just really didn’t give a crap.
I can’t say enough how this was the coldest man I’ve ever known.
Charmed again
After additional communication between he and his ex surfaced, along with his decision to allow a buddy of his (male) to come stay in our house for well beyond a few weeks, without asking me of course. I decided it was time for some separation. Although separation was there I still missed him. After a few days, he charmed me again and offered the possibility of my coming back home and things changing.
I came back, of course, and things didn’t change and he was as aloof as he had always been. The problem was that I still loved him and wanted to marry him, wanted to change him. Within a few additional days something very devastating took place — He cut the ties of the relationship with as much care or emotion as a gravedigger. Again, it was cold and at this point he devastated my life — he told me that he just couldn’t deal with this anymore and couldn’t be in a relationship.
After all I had sacrificed emotionally and financially, he was just easily done with everything. I took steps to move out. After that point, he didn’t call; he didn’t attempt to communicate at all.
I would have never been happy
At first, I went through hell. Replaying the events and wondering what I could’ve done differently. But looking back, he just wanted to live by his own rules — he clearly was a sociopath.
What is he doing now? I hear he is still living in the same place, filed bankruptcy and works out all the time to make himself look more muscular. He dabbles into drugs and is even further down the wrong path.
I’m just happy that I got out because I would’ve never been happy. He had no care or concern for anyone but his own self. I tried not to blame myself or get depressed. I try to realize that people like this, I call them users, don’t have a heart. They don’t care! They are truly sociopaths and will do whatever they can to win and to live by their own set of rules.
Please learn from my lesson.
Learn more: Sociopathic seduction — How you got hooked and why you stayed
Lovefraud originally posted this story on April 30, 2009.
Dear Jfog, Welcome to LF, I too am glad you are here. Stay around a while and read as much as you can of the archived articles (you can find them on the left listed by month) each one is a gem to help us learn about them, and learn about ourselves. Sorry, though, that you “qualify” for our “club.”
EC: “the voices told me to stay home and clean the guns” ROTFLMAO X 1000!!!!!! You crack me up woman!!!!! My gosh, have I rubbed off that much on the LF bloggers! I almost wish I had a job to call in for a day off with that line!!!! A great one!!!! Wish I had thought of that one!!!
First, Welcome jfrog! And thank you for sharing your story.
““I’ve discussed this ad nauseum with my shrink and he told me that when the sex goes out of a relationship, it is headed for the tank. At a minimum, when the sex. At a minimum, when the sex decreases, it is pretty much a sure sign that your partner is cheating on you.—
Elizabeth Conley,
“People who are juggling work, child rearing and home maintenance can have little or nothing left at the end of the day. Throw in a medical condition, or extra source of stress, and your partner’s sudden drop in sex drive may be a totally innocent matter.”
This does work and is true for normal people and more so for single parents. Stress and money issues top with a medical and/or a psychological issue like PTSD will affect our sexual drives. But let’s go back and think about our s/p.
Like “juggling work”. Most don’t work and/or are “between” jobs.
“Child rearing”. Well most spend little or no time on this issue plus their children are more or less just a another source of supply for them and/or these children are simply put on the back burner until the s/p can use them for something. Child rearing, only if it serves their purpose.
“home maintenance” Most s/p put nothing into the home business or financial well being of our lives.
My point is that the only stress I see most s/p have in their lives is who is going to pay for their bills next meal and a place to live. So in affect, these people shouldn’t have any real problems when it comes to sex which is what they really do anyway, they just don’t have sex with us being too busy setting up that “next meal ticket” by having sex with them. Try talking about a lack of sex in a relationships with a s/p, but I for one would get ready for a WHOLE LOT of PROJECTIONS aim right back at you. I agree with Matt that if one does have a relationship with any s/p sex is a red flag and form of control.
I know for me sex was used many times to manipulate me to do and/or get something she wanted. I experienced a lack of sex intimacy and the “cold shoulder” many times throughout my toxic relationship with my ex. Not once in 17 years did my ex ever initiate sex with me, not once! I wonder if these people even “need” sex or if it’s just another form of manipulation and control? Normal people have a healthy normal sex drive but s/p don’t I mean ether they are oversexed or have little or no interest in sex after the “honeymoon stage is over.
JFog,
You are right, we are very lucky you alive, healthy and here to share your story with us. I am glad you found LF…it will help you in ways you cant begin to imagine… I especially like to read old articles and posts.
I would not have thought some of us here could have ever endured or continued on to find and create a better life, socio-free. But it is absolutely possible and quite possibly the turning point to my healing journey and recreating my life again or truly wanting to…began when I stumbled across LF.
God bless you and protect you. Im glad you are finally free.
If I may add, the sex issue was a big red flag in the relationship I (unfortunately) shared with the s for 7 years.
He was sex crazed in the 1st year I was with him. He was constantly coming on, even when I was sick. 3 times a day and such. I felt flattered, but sometimes a bit too much. For me 4-5 times a week is plenty, especially back then at age 22 I was a bit more “frisky” and unsure of my own wants and needs.
As soon as I moved in with the s, after 6 months of dating him, sex was not appealing to him. He no longer initiated, was kinda put out by it. He was always sort of robot like, but he became even more so. He treated having sex like a chore.
When I tried talking about it, he denied it, deflected it and got annoyed by it. He tried telling me I was the one with the problem. He would say “sex is over-rated” and “well, it cannot be always the honeymoon, right?” then he would walk out of the room.
I felt extremly confused by this change, it started eroding my self worth as a sexual being.
Greenfern,
If only we knew if was about them…them….them….
If only we knew to ACT ON THAT RED FLAG! And GET OUT AND GET ON WITH OUR LIVES WITH OTHER HEALTHY PROSPECTS IN THE ROMANCE DEPARTMENT!!
If only we knew they were mostly ALL TALK, or just MIRRORING US (explains the intense sexual feelings we had with them)…if only we knew.
BUT NOW WE DO!!! NOW WE KNOW!! I ONCE TOLD HIM I TOTALLY COULD RELATE TO LORRAINE BOBBIT – WHEN A GUY MAKES YOU THAT ANGRY AND CONFUSED AND FRUSTRATED – SOMETIMES I DO SAY KUDOS OR TOWANDA TO THAT WOMAN! (FORGIVE ME, BUT I DO!!) LOL
What she did was probably wrong…lol…but we are doing…
LETTING GO, MOVING ON…is the true TOWANDA for us!!
James,
I feel for you. I watched the S play woman after woman, having a brief few sexual encounters with each, then devaluing and discarding them almost instantly thereafter. That was his pattern.
Now admittedly, I possess an UNDER-active imagination when it comes to other people’s sex lives, but I thought the N was the most asexual creature I’d ever encountered. He apparently reproduced at least twice, and I considered that to be one the universe’s greatest mysteries. I found his hysterical misogynistic-church-cult fear of being alone with women rip-snortin’ hilarious. What a loon!
All I wish to convey is that it’s normal to have dry spells in a HEALTHY relationship. Suspecting infidelity or whining of neglect only ramps up the stress for an already anxious partner. Let’s not let our S/P/N encounters ruin us for life.
It surprises me sometimes how these sociopaths exhibit the same behaviors.
Mine was not affectionate.
He was seeing at least two of his godson’s mothers at the same time we were dating.
Everything was secretive.
He borrowed money that will never be repaid.
He is irresponsible with his finances and blames others for the problems that he has.
He LIED all the time.
You were lucky to get out of the situation especially not marrying the guy.
These sociopaths use charm to get what they want. They don’t care about the consequences of their actions. Eventually their true natures come out and the beast is exposed.
In healthy relationships the communication is just different. There are significantly more open and honest conversations about everything…From money to sex to whatever.
They dont say “oh well, cant have the honeymoon last forever… or sex is overrated … or snide remarks…they dont embarrass you or put you down or put you off or be sneaky with others…
they say things like, Im really stressed right now or you know they are having some bad days because they are a part of your life and you really do know them…its just a whole different ball park when you are with a healthy non-toxic person.
Yes sexlife can slow down, and pick up again based on whats going on in individuals lives and communication makes all the difference in the world..but with toxic SNP there is no communication just control or deceitful or painful communication that leaves you staring at the ceiling…
RED FLAG. STOP. GET UP. GET OUT. GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE…SEXLIFE INCLUDED!!!!
I agree about the dry spells in normal relationships too. There are times when there are just too many things going on, physically, emotionally and it can take toll on the relationship. Sex can be also a difficult topic to discuss with a partner without evoking bad feelings. I think in most relationships sex drives are not equally strong, needs can be different. Circumstances that affect the drive and need can change too.
But in the other hand when sex (or lack of) is used as a leverage or gas-lighting, to cause anguish without reason, becomes part of the arsenal of the s. The unwillingness to discuss, deflection of questions is how the s unroots stability in their partners.