Editor’s note: Here is Part 2 of yesterday’s article, “Almost everything under the sun happened to me, and I’m fine,” written by a reader who posts as “Jen.”
Okay, so I had a crappy childhood, but I survived it. I came out of it okay. I have had what I now think might have been sociopaths in my life from time to time as friends, lovers, or family. At the time, I had no clue what they were, but I did know they were screwed up. I quickly rid parasites from my life after I figured out they were just out to use people. I was strong, and I was no way going to be surrounded by meanness.
So, 2 years after my divorce, I ran into an ex from 20 years prior. I was down in the dumps when I met him again. I had lost my wonderful job and my big fat paycheck. I had plans and dreams that were about to come true. Everything came crashing down on me, and I moved back to my hometown. (Stupid economy!) I got a small apartment for my kids, my golden retriever, and I. I was getting unemployment, but we were barely scraping by. I decided to suck up my pride and go see if the state would help me out with food stamps. I was humiliated, as I do not like taking anything from anyone.
This is where I ran into him, again. At the food stamp office. I should have known better. We started talking, and he said he was just trying to get back on his feet from his break up with his ex. He told me he had done some pretty amazing stuff in the years (now I think it was all bs), and I told him some of my experiences. I also told him I was writing a book, and he said he was doing the same. I sucked up my shyness and I gave him my number. He looked different, cleaner, and more mature than I remembered him. He was also very good looking. How could I judge him? I was getting food stamps myself!
He called a couple of days later, and said he wanted to hang out. He sounded embarrassed when he told me he was broke. I said it was okay, and we could hang out at my place. We got along great! He said he had quit drinking (he drank a lot when we were younger), and at that point in his life he only had a beer here and there. That was fine with me as I wasn’t much of a drinker. He worked, and he exercised all the time. He told me everything I wanted to hear. Maybe, at that time, he wasn’t lying, but it was short lived.
Into the trap
I fell into his trap. I was sucked in and lost. He would tell me how wonderful I was, and how much he loved me. I was rather curious as to why he never had any money to his name (not even a dollar). He was supposed to be working, and he lived with his mom (just staying there for a few months to get on his feet, again). He told me he had to help his mom out, since she was having a hard time with money. He had a car sitting in her driveway, but it was broken. I wondered why he couldn’t get it fixed. I blew these questions off in my mind. I was trying to be understanding, since life had just kicked me in the butt.
Finally, I said that I loved him back. It was right before he was going out of town with his father for Thanksgiving. When he came back he seemed different. He was colder and not as considerate of me anymore. His family suddenly started talking about his ex nonstop. He never said anything about her, and he looked uncomfortable. I guess he would get into huge fights with them over her, but they didn’t care or respect his wishes to keep her out of his and my lives. It was really weird, and I was uncomfortable.
My boyfriend, whom I was beginning to fall head over heals for, suddenly started drinking a lot. He lost his job, and was completely broke, still living at mom’s. I figured it was the stress from being broke, unemployed, and 41 living at his mom’s house. I felt terrible for this ‘poor’ soul. I wanted to help, but I didn’t have much money, either. I was starting my old company back up that my father had left barely running, as a division of his company, while I lived out of state. It was a moneymaker, but his current employees ran it into the ground. So, I was scraping by, as it was. I had my boyfriend work with me a few times, and I paid him very well. He just seemed to spend his money on beer and give it to his mother. He told me how he was depressed, and needed a full time job. I found him jobs left and right, but now I think he didn’t even call. (I was blind at the time.)
Apartment
Finally, I felt like I should do something to really help this guy. I told myself we all need a little help once in a while in life, and I could help him. I asked my brother to hire him on full time with his company. I fixed his car myself. I also got it insured and registered. My lease on my apartment was up, and I asked him if he wanted to get a place with me. He said yes.
He had me rent this beautiful townhouse with a lovely yard for my dog. Then the day before we were due to move in, he tells me he doesn’t think he is ready for a relationship. I had paid them all their money, and just signed a year’s lease, in my name only. I knew I couldn’t afford the rent on my own. I don’t even think I could speak when he told me that. The next day, he changed his tune, but he only moved in some of his clothes. I complained that he wasn’t really living there after a few weeks of him not really having any of his stuff there. So, he went to his mom’s and grabbed two things to hang on the wall. Gee…
Life was hell. He was mean to me, every day. Up and down and I didn’t know what to do. I couldn’t figure out what happened to the man I fell in love with. He started going to his mom’s every day after work, and he would spend at least two nights a week there. He complained that he didn’t want to pay rent, because ‘he deserved a Harley’ to ride. His drinking was getting out of control, as was his behavior. I was just turning into a puddle. Nothing I said or did made anything better. In fact, it only seemed to get worse. He seemed intelligent before, and now there was no logic or reason with him at all.
Ex-girlfriend
The ex-girlfriend was becoming a never-ending problem, as well. His sister decided to be best friends with her, after she said such cruel things about this woman. I found out his ex was trying to get him back, and his family was pushing him towards it. He really didn’t want her, but I didn’t know this at the time as he rarely spoke of her. They liked her better than me. She partied, did coke, and paid for all their partying. She was a nurse and made a lot of money (so they said). They said she would be rich someday. Also, she is a Navajo Indian, and he is a Sioux. I am white. They are racist. Big problem that I was unaware of.
It was all just drama that I was not used to. I was shocked by the things these people did and said. I had no clue at the time that his mom and sister were narcissists, but I did know his brother and nephew were psychopaths (the scary criminal kind). The things I’ve seen these people do is unbelievable, and it would take me 100 pages just to summarize it.
Needless to say, he moved out after 2 1/2 months, and I got stuck with rent I couldn’t afford. He got drunk and lost his job with my brother after 3 months of working there. I think it was the last straw for me. I was shattered. It was a horrible year!
Depression
I fell into a short and temporary deep depression. I am sure I wasn’t the best of mothers, walking around in a daze. I don’t remember much, and I don’t know why. My teenage son picked up some of the slack for me with my daughter. He could see something was wrong, but he didn’t know what. I remember wanting nothing more than to die. I wanted to kill myself, and it was all I could think of. I told my boyfriend something was wrong, and I was worried because I was having thoughts of suicide. He didn’t care. I asked my mom for help, and told her what I was feeling. I knew at that time that my brain was just reacting to being under too much stress for too long. I knew I needed help. No one cared or was there. I couldn’t afford therapy. The mental abuse and money situation was just weighing on me too much, and I finally broke all the way. It had gone on for too long.
The day I had picked to be the end of me came. I had plenty of life insurance for my kids, and I couldn’t see how I was any benefit to anyone. I felt like a failure in every way.
I was going to go to the mountains by myself, and I would make it look like an accident. I had it all planned out, and I looked forward to it. Then the sweetest little face came bouncing at me, and said, “Mommy, I love you. Where are you going? Can I come?” I woke up in that instant.
I felt so guilty and awful for what I was about to do. How could I leave this innocent sweet child without any parents? She loved me so, and I was being horrible and selfish in my way of thinking. How could I do that to my son as well? It would have crushed their little souls. Besides, I am the girl who has always loved life. My only fear is death. After we die, how will we hold hands, or give our babies a kiss and hugs? I like the physical aspects of love and life, so how could I be willing to leave this?
Growing stronger
I grew angry as my eyes started to open. How was it possible to twist me around so bad inside? He was just one man, and I grew up around people like him. His family reminded me of my father’s family (which I was sheltered from, for the most part). I knew better. I tried to leave him then, but I think I was still weak. This man was 41, drunk, refused to work, and living with his mother! Ewwww! AND yet, he still sucked me in, again! I felt sorry for him. How pathetic?
I did grow much stronger and rather quickly. His lies and mean stuff he pulled weren’t working anymore. He seemed more frustrated, and he got meaner. I would dump him, and he would come back. Or I would dump him, and then feel so horrible inside that I went back to him. I thought I loved him, but I know love is a two way street. It wasn’t love, but some sick twisted need. He created that need in me, but it was up to me to get rid of it.
My resentment grew and grew, until about the last month or so. Then my love started being replaced by disgust. I started to see him for what he was—stupid, boring, pathetic, and a leech. I had no respect for him. A small piece of me felt bad and loved him still, but I knew it was the beginning of the end that I looked forward to.
Breaking free
I knew I had to emotionally break free while I was with him. Otherwise, I would have forgotten the bad (like I like to do) and only remembered the good in him. I would have never been able to be free. I know me, and I know there are only 2 surefire ways to make me turn my feelings off like a lightning bolt. The first is to do or say mean things to my children, and the second is to hit me. He has never done either of these.
Well, he must have sensed my planned escape from him. He suddenly got very nice and sweet again, but I waited. I knew he’d do something horribly cruel to me in no time at all. Besides, I just had to tell myself that he is now a 42-year-old man, who lives with his mother and brother, refuses to work, and never does anything for anyone. Valentine’s Day was coming, and he has never gotten me a gift for anything, ever. He spent all of his money on beer last Saturday, and then he promptly started an insane fight over nothing. He dumped me for Valentine’s Day, just like I knew he would. Of course, he blamed me. Technically, I did the dumping, as I didn’t want to be treated so horrible, but I know his games. It was all his doing.
I feel like it was the best Valentine’s Day gift I could have ever received from him: My freedom and my sanity. I cried a little last night, but not over him. I was sad I had put myself in this situation and wasted my time and energy. I feel strong and I am done in my heart and head with him. I had already felt this way for a while, but must have needed a little more convincing.
Not jaded
I am getting back to the person I used to be, and my heart doesn’t hurt anymore. I am angry and baffled at how this one man wrecked me so badly. I went through so much as a child, and it never affected me like this.
I do know what is wrong with me, though. I have helped people throughout my life, as I have been through the school of hard knocks. Some of them have been con artists or mentally ill, and some really needed it. I need to work on my need to heal the world of its sufferings. It is me that needs more healing, and instead of doing that, I set out to save us all. Ha ha, I know it’s not possible. I am too trusting and too loving, and I think I will work on whom not to trust and love. There are a lot of cruel people in this world, but I don’t think that should stop us from caring about the ones who really need our love and trust.
I will not let this man jade me, just as I didn’t let my childhood experiences jade me. If I do, they win. I will still love, trust, and respect others, but I will be a lot more selective especially with the lower life ones. I can run from the educated ones, but the lower life dummies get my sympathies every time. “It’s not their fault life was so hard for them.” Well, it was hard for me too, but I don’t use people, treat them like objects, lie, and I’m not mean. So, boo hoo!
Aussiegirl-that is a great thing that you said to LL and I totally agree. Some of us were the OW and some of us were the wives. I had to go thru all that pain and guilt too and when I did, I lashed out at some people on here-big time bad. Then I had to feel guilt about that too. The huge amount of tremendous guilt/pain cloud has faded a lot from me now but there are definitely parts of it that are still there. When I hear those of you who talk about being the wife, it makes me feel bad, but not so that I have to go back to that place where I feel like I want to die and all those other feelings that I felt. Months ago, I would have blamed me getting fired this week on the fact that I was OW and that God hated me and that I still being paid back for what I did. I’m not going back to that place. This isn’t karma beating me over the head. This is a whole other set of spathy people who tried to push my buttons as hard as they could to try to get me to resign BEFORE I had another position lined up. I refused to let them, I dug my heels in and stood my ground and they went on a fishing expedition and they warned me in not so many words that they were going to do it. That’s why I did step up my job search but they were able to invent something before I was able to get something and they won THAT battle, but they haven’t won the war. I have lots of tricks up my sleeve, although I wish I could just get a job. Having a termination on you does NOT make it easier.
Eva-I would suggest dumping all those things. I burned some of my spaths things. He was mean enough to leave me also with 2 of the shirts that I gave him. They looked so good on him but I guess he did want to explain 4 new shirts to her-maybe the 1st two looked like something he’s buy for himself.
Shabby-I’m so sorry about what you had to go through with seeing him. I’m even more sorry that he got the liver. How long has he had it? Did he need it from cirrhosis? Does he drink? Don’t worry-karma is still out there and he can always go into rejection and the new liver will fail, especially if he doesn’t take care of himself.
Stargazer-I agree about ther paying for meals issue. My first date with mine was at a coffee shop and he paid. He always paid for dinner. I paid for lunch once because I surprised him with take out when he got off work early. I did drive a lot though. I think that was part of this plan for two reasons, remember, I was the OW-1) he didn’t want someone to recognize his vehicle with a young pretty female in the passenger seat (me), who wasn’t supposed to be there, and 2) he drove like a complete psychotic maniac and had terrible road rage and I think that he knew I would be very alarmed to ride with him. I was a future cop and a careful driver and I think he was afraid that I would make him stop the car and let me out. It would have caused a lot of fights in our relationship, and everytime we fought and I tried to break it off, he would cry and beg me not to leave him. That was why he lovebombed so much and made sure that we hardly ever fought.
DW,
I’m sorry you’re having to go through this again, however, you are STRONG. Thank GOD you see this NOW rather than later!!!!
Let him get his OWN shit. Leave it on the porch in a box or something. You owe him NOTHING.
I’m PROUD OF YOU!!!! You’re doing the absolute right thing and SEEING his true colors!!
LL
Good Morning Everyone,
I’m feeling better a bit more resolute this morning.
SOmething wonderful happened yesterday that I wanted to share here.
EXPOS gave me a beautiful bible with my name etched on the front of it. I couldn’t pick it up, it hurt so bad.
I had mentioned to my son that this was the case. He mentioned it to a friend at work.
So day before yesterday, he told me his friend had extra bibles at home and would give him one to give to me to read. She went through them and said, “they’re really old, your mom is going through a lot, she deserves a new one!”
So she gave this bible to my son on Tuesday and we went and picked it up at his house yesterday. It is STUNNING…a beautiful blue, leather bound bible. Absolutely gorgeous. I had no problem opening it up and flipping through it. It was a tremendous gift and such a kind thing to do!!!
I get to meet her today.
I don’t know what I’m going to do with my other bible just yet. I can’t read it, yet I can’t toss it either. SO it’ll stay out of site until I can feel comfortable enough to decide what to do with it.
It’s been a horrific week.
Thanks for being so supportive!
LL
Stargazer,
I totally know what you mean about a real man paying the tab. That’s the way I always felt, and I still do, even though my ex skewed my own reality of what a real man should be like. He didn’t give me one penny when our daughter was born. I knew he was trying to get his life back on track after being in prison (drug related)…I sound so stupid writing this…knowing I was involved with someone who had a criminal background. He totally plowed me with the idea he was getting his life in order. UGH…anyway. I consider myself to have a healthy dose of self respect…and I always had boundries in my life. That’s how good these “bad people” are. They totally snow you. Back to the topic… my ex made me feel that I didn’t deserve to have someone help me financially with our newborn daughter. I had all the responsibility for her. ALL…and he made me feel I deserved it. To think he made me feel that way…it used to get me soooo MAD. But I am slowly getting along and I know that’s in the past, and my beautiful future awaits me!!!! I am finally accepting it, and moving on!
I guess I am one of the fortunate ones on here. I come from a very good, solid family. I have nothing but sweet, cherished memories of my childhood. My father was Italian, his parents came to Italy as very small children in the early 1900’s. Like a good Italian boy, he was raised to be a good Italian man. Good, real men take care of their families, their children. They love them and adore them and would do anything to protect them. That’s always been my view on what a real man is supposed to be. I always dated men that respected me and took responsibility as far as paying the tab, bills, etc. Yes, as an independent woman, it’s ok for a man to do that. Of course, I would occasionally pay pizza for lunch or something fun like that. Most men find that a turn on. Their well taken care of woman taking the reigns and paying. Knowing of course that they know IT’S THERE JOB to pay!!!
My ex in the first 8 months of our relationship did all of that. He was successful, had a good work ethic, fun, and was good to me. His drug abuse got worse & worse, behind my back, I had no clue it was getting worse. That’s what drug addicts do…they hide their addiction. I have such sweet, good memories of him. We were on his friends boat outside Atlantic City…the seas were rough that day. Of course it was fun…the boat was going up & down, we were going fast. It was fun. Of course the mimosas and bagels w/ salmon cream cheese we had for breakfast didn’t help. Everybody on the boat, my sister, my ex, and his friend were fine. Not me…I started feeling sick. My ex’s friend had me sit down and told me to stare at the horizon. It worked for awhile, but I got sick. I threw up into the ocean. I had puke coming out of my NOSE. LOL….My ex held his hand in front of me to catch the puke. Who would do that?!?! He held his arm around me and was comforting me. When I was done puking my guts out…my ex found the only papertowel on the boat and wiped my mouth & face. Seriouslly!!! And to think he’s a sociopath kills me. He was always comforting like that to me. In reference to my father, that’s what a real man is suppsed to do. Take care of the people he loves!!!
It’s amazing how these people operate. Currently my ex just got out of rehab and is clean. He’s on some 4 month plan. When he talks to me…and don’t ask questions. I just go along with the convo. and then tell him off. This I might add is the first time I talked to him since Oct. I know, I know, but I just wanted to know what was up with his rehab, and work(for child support). Getting back to the 4month plan. He attends meetings and clases thru out the day & evening. Part of the program is going to the career link to get his resume posted and find a job. He’s on lithium (I think…again I tuned out when he was talking to me) for his bi polar. He said he is feeling good and taking everything one step at a time. He of course asked about our daughter. He asked if he could see her. I said NO!!!! I’ve heard of drug addicts, especially one’s with bipolar, that in the height of their addiction can display signs of anti social disorder. That when once they are clean, and living a clean life, the sociopathic behavior goes away. This goes hand in hand with his meds for his bipolar. So…I don’t know. I just know if he wants anything to do with our daughter he needs to prove to me over & over & over that he is worthy of being in her life. I might add this too. My ex has a 10 year old daughter from a previous relationship. He was very successful at what he did, took care of their daughter and her mom, gave them a good life. He was a doting father to their daughter. His friends love & adore him. I guess only time will tell if he is really serious about getting his life in order, and leading a clean, good life. In the mean time I am not involved in his life. He needs to step up and be the man I know he could be or stay being the loser he is now!!!
DW – HIS stuff, HIS problem not yours. Ignore him. It’s a game they play to get you to ‘react’ don’t rise to it. It lets him feel he has control. Tell him you sold it to pay off debts!!
Nolarn, they don’t bother me, one of the books, Shakespearian sonnets, i like it, it’s a nice bilingual edition german-english. The t-shirt i already used it to dust, and the toilet things i feel pity, the perfume he used i don’t want to throw it out…
one/joy_step,
It is EX b/f!
Dear DW—mail it to him AT YOUR CONVENIENCE COD for postage, so he has to pay. I wouldn’t worry about it, just take it to the PO or one of those mailing places and mail it with the postage DUE on him picking it up. Then you are not responsible for paying for it. Since HE left it, you are doing him a favor to return it, so I would do it at a time when it is convenient for me, not go out of my way to hurry.
He is using this camera as a “hook” and “connection” to keep talking to you…so I wouldn’t sweat it.
Glad he is the EX-POS now, and you got a “cheap lesson” out of it before you got too deeply hooked. Use this as a learning experience in spotting them early on. (((hugs))))
Ox,
Yeah…neon sign EX POS–the new term I learned. LOL
Man I had such a hard time today focusing on my life and responsibilities, feeling so down about such an abrupt shift. Can’t help feeling hurt. It’s a sort of betrayal too, to be lied to, to be told I am “once in a lifetime” and even the way he said he was committed to the “sapling’s growth” WOW what a load of b/s. I am just SO hard on myself for falling for it and falling on my face. How stupid can I be???
Worse–everyone, please tell me what to do about this. I was so trusting and felt he was a decent person…arrrghh how dumb am I?–that I went to bed w/him on his word that he has no STI’s and had a vasectomy–so no protection. Now I am terrified. God help me what if he gave me something, incurable?? :(:(:(