Editor’s note: Here is Part 2 of yesterday’s article, “Almost everything under the sun happened to me, and I’m fine,” written by a reader who posts as “Jen.”
Okay, so I had a crappy childhood, but I survived it. I came out of it okay. I have had what I now think might have been sociopaths in my life from time to time as friends, lovers, or family. At the time, I had no clue what they were, but I did know they were screwed up. I quickly rid parasites from my life after I figured out they were just out to use people. I was strong, and I was no way going to be surrounded by meanness.
So, 2 years after my divorce, I ran into an ex from 20 years prior. I was down in the dumps when I met him again. I had lost my wonderful job and my big fat paycheck. I had plans and dreams that were about to come true. Everything came crashing down on me, and I moved back to my hometown. (Stupid economy!) I got a small apartment for my kids, my golden retriever, and I. I was getting unemployment, but we were barely scraping by. I decided to suck up my pride and go see if the state would help me out with food stamps. I was humiliated, as I do not like taking anything from anyone.
This is where I ran into him, again. At the food stamp office. I should have known better. We started talking, and he said he was just trying to get back on his feet from his break up with his ex. He told me he had done some pretty amazing stuff in the years (now I think it was all bs), and I told him some of my experiences. I also told him I was writing a book, and he said he was doing the same. I sucked up my shyness and I gave him my number. He looked different, cleaner, and more mature than I remembered him. He was also very good looking. How could I judge him? I was getting food stamps myself!
He called a couple of days later, and said he wanted to hang out. He sounded embarrassed when he told me he was broke. I said it was okay, and we could hang out at my place. We got along great! He said he had quit drinking (he drank a lot when we were younger), and at that point in his life he only had a beer here and there. That was fine with me as I wasn’t much of a drinker. He worked, and he exercised all the time. He told me everything I wanted to hear. Maybe, at that time, he wasn’t lying, but it was short lived.
Into the trap
I fell into his trap. I was sucked in and lost. He would tell me how wonderful I was, and how much he loved me. I was rather curious as to why he never had any money to his name (not even a dollar). He was supposed to be working, and he lived with his mom (just staying there for a few months to get on his feet, again). He told me he had to help his mom out, since she was having a hard time with money. He had a car sitting in her driveway, but it was broken. I wondered why he couldn’t get it fixed. I blew these questions off in my mind. I was trying to be understanding, since life had just kicked me in the butt.
Finally, I said that I loved him back. It was right before he was going out of town with his father for Thanksgiving. When he came back he seemed different. He was colder and not as considerate of me anymore. His family suddenly started talking about his ex nonstop. He never said anything about her, and he looked uncomfortable. I guess he would get into huge fights with them over her, but they didn’t care or respect his wishes to keep her out of his and my lives. It was really weird, and I was uncomfortable.
My boyfriend, whom I was beginning to fall head over heals for, suddenly started drinking a lot. He lost his job, and was completely broke, still living at mom’s. I figured it was the stress from being broke, unemployed, and 41 living at his mom’s house. I felt terrible for this ‘poor’ soul. I wanted to help, but I didn’t have much money, either. I was starting my old company back up that my father had left barely running, as a division of his company, while I lived out of state. It was a moneymaker, but his current employees ran it into the ground. So, I was scraping by, as it was. I had my boyfriend work with me a few times, and I paid him very well. He just seemed to spend his money on beer and give it to his mother. He told me how he was depressed, and needed a full time job. I found him jobs left and right, but now I think he didn’t even call. (I was blind at the time.)
Apartment
Finally, I felt like I should do something to really help this guy. I told myself we all need a little help once in a while in life, and I could help him. I asked my brother to hire him on full time with his company. I fixed his car myself. I also got it insured and registered. My lease on my apartment was up, and I asked him if he wanted to get a place with me. He said yes.
He had me rent this beautiful townhouse with a lovely yard for my dog. Then the day before we were due to move in, he tells me he doesn’t think he is ready for a relationship. I had paid them all their money, and just signed a year’s lease, in my name only. I knew I couldn’t afford the rent on my own. I don’t even think I could speak when he told me that. The next day, he changed his tune, but he only moved in some of his clothes. I complained that he wasn’t really living there after a few weeks of him not really having any of his stuff there. So, he went to his mom’s and grabbed two things to hang on the wall. Gee…
Life was hell. He was mean to me, every day. Up and down and I didn’t know what to do. I couldn’t figure out what happened to the man I fell in love with. He started going to his mom’s every day after work, and he would spend at least two nights a week there. He complained that he didn’t want to pay rent, because ‘he deserved a Harley’ to ride. His drinking was getting out of control, as was his behavior. I was just turning into a puddle. Nothing I said or did made anything better. In fact, it only seemed to get worse. He seemed intelligent before, and now there was no logic or reason with him at all.
Ex-girlfriend
The ex-girlfriend was becoming a never-ending problem, as well. His sister decided to be best friends with her, after she said such cruel things about this woman. I found out his ex was trying to get him back, and his family was pushing him towards it. He really didn’t want her, but I didn’t know this at the time as he rarely spoke of her. They liked her better than me. She partied, did coke, and paid for all their partying. She was a nurse and made a lot of money (so they said). They said she would be rich someday. Also, she is a Navajo Indian, and he is a Sioux. I am white. They are racist. Big problem that I was unaware of.
It was all just drama that I was not used to. I was shocked by the things these people did and said. I had no clue at the time that his mom and sister were narcissists, but I did know his brother and nephew were psychopaths (the scary criminal kind). The things I’ve seen these people do is unbelievable, and it would take me 100 pages just to summarize it.
Needless to say, he moved out after 2 1/2 months, and I got stuck with rent I couldn’t afford. He got drunk and lost his job with my brother after 3 months of working there. I think it was the last straw for me. I was shattered. It was a horrible year!
Depression
I fell into a short and temporary deep depression. I am sure I wasn’t the best of mothers, walking around in a daze. I don’t remember much, and I don’t know why. My teenage son picked up some of the slack for me with my daughter. He could see something was wrong, but he didn’t know what. I remember wanting nothing more than to die. I wanted to kill myself, and it was all I could think of. I told my boyfriend something was wrong, and I was worried because I was having thoughts of suicide. He didn’t care. I asked my mom for help, and told her what I was feeling. I knew at that time that my brain was just reacting to being under too much stress for too long. I knew I needed help. No one cared or was there. I couldn’t afford therapy. The mental abuse and money situation was just weighing on me too much, and I finally broke all the way. It had gone on for too long.
The day I had picked to be the end of me came. I had plenty of life insurance for my kids, and I couldn’t see how I was any benefit to anyone. I felt like a failure in every way.
I was going to go to the mountains by myself, and I would make it look like an accident. I had it all planned out, and I looked forward to it. Then the sweetest little face came bouncing at me, and said, “Mommy, I love you. Where are you going? Can I come?” I woke up in that instant.
I felt so guilty and awful for what I was about to do. How could I leave this innocent sweet child without any parents? She loved me so, and I was being horrible and selfish in my way of thinking. How could I do that to my son as well? It would have crushed their little souls. Besides, I am the girl who has always loved life. My only fear is death. After we die, how will we hold hands, or give our babies a kiss and hugs? I like the physical aspects of love and life, so how could I be willing to leave this?
Growing stronger
I grew angry as my eyes started to open. How was it possible to twist me around so bad inside? He was just one man, and I grew up around people like him. His family reminded me of my father’s family (which I was sheltered from, for the most part). I knew better. I tried to leave him then, but I think I was still weak. This man was 41, drunk, refused to work, and living with his mother! Ewwww! AND yet, he still sucked me in, again! I felt sorry for him. How pathetic?
I did grow much stronger and rather quickly. His lies and mean stuff he pulled weren’t working anymore. He seemed more frustrated, and he got meaner. I would dump him, and he would come back. Or I would dump him, and then feel so horrible inside that I went back to him. I thought I loved him, but I know love is a two way street. It wasn’t love, but some sick twisted need. He created that need in me, but it was up to me to get rid of it.
My resentment grew and grew, until about the last month or so. Then my love started being replaced by disgust. I started to see him for what he was—stupid, boring, pathetic, and a leech. I had no respect for him. A small piece of me felt bad and loved him still, but I knew it was the beginning of the end that I looked forward to.
Breaking free
I knew I had to emotionally break free while I was with him. Otherwise, I would have forgotten the bad (like I like to do) and only remembered the good in him. I would have never been able to be free. I know me, and I know there are only 2 surefire ways to make me turn my feelings off like a lightning bolt. The first is to do or say mean things to my children, and the second is to hit me. He has never done either of these.
Well, he must have sensed my planned escape from him. He suddenly got very nice and sweet again, but I waited. I knew he’d do something horribly cruel to me in no time at all. Besides, I just had to tell myself that he is now a 42-year-old man, who lives with his mother and brother, refuses to work, and never does anything for anyone. Valentine’s Day was coming, and he has never gotten me a gift for anything, ever. He spent all of his money on beer last Saturday, and then he promptly started an insane fight over nothing. He dumped me for Valentine’s Day, just like I knew he would. Of course, he blamed me. Technically, I did the dumping, as I didn’t want to be treated so horrible, but I know his games. It was all his doing.
I feel like it was the best Valentine’s Day gift I could have ever received from him: My freedom and my sanity. I cried a little last night, but not over him. I was sad I had put myself in this situation and wasted my time and energy. I feel strong and I am done in my heart and head with him. I had already felt this way for a while, but must have needed a little more convincing.
Not jaded
I am getting back to the person I used to be, and my heart doesn’t hurt anymore. I am angry and baffled at how this one man wrecked me so badly. I went through so much as a child, and it never affected me like this.
I do know what is wrong with me, though. I have helped people throughout my life, as I have been through the school of hard knocks. Some of them have been con artists or mentally ill, and some really needed it. I need to work on my need to heal the world of its sufferings. It is me that needs more healing, and instead of doing that, I set out to save us all. Ha ha, I know it’s not possible. I am too trusting and too loving, and I think I will work on whom not to trust and love. There are a lot of cruel people in this world, but I don’t think that should stop us from caring about the ones who really need our love and trust.
I will not let this man jade me, just as I didn’t let my childhood experiences jade me. If I do, they win. I will still love, trust, and respect others, but I will be a lot more selective especially with the lower life ones. I can run from the educated ones, but the lower life dummies get my sympathies every time. “It’s not their fault life was so hard for them.” Well, it was hard for me too, but I don’t use people, treat them like objects, lie, and I’m not mean. So, boo hoo!
2cop
I”m so sorry for that………..for you…….
You’re not minimizing my pain. But truthfully? some will get away with it……I felt totally defeated when I saw this…….and, well in a way I guess I was…..part of me wonders if I don’t deserve it and that it’s not karma because I engaged in an affair with spath for nine years…..it wasn’t like I can pretend to be stupid and not understand what that meant…..I did………..
BUt with what I saw of him and his new “Kim Kardashian” I began to understand that it didn’t and doesn’t matter what I think or say or do………..
He will always get away with it. Will always be “happy” at a superficial level……..sex two three times a day. saying all the right things……..being loved bombed COMPLETELY and not an OW of his in the past to do it……….
I deserve what’s happening 2cop. I think after I saw them, that’s what is most profound to me……
I can’t imagine how many times his poor wife lay in bed hoping for karma to happen to me and my demise……..
I sure wish I could tell her that her prayers are now my reality…
LL
Hi LL,
I can understand your pain. next time you see him with anyone, do not even look again in that direction. walk away and take the high road.
so what is she is beautiful and rich, she is in our shoes, he will toy with her the same way as he did to us, he will not connect with her anymore as he connected with us, she is viewing the mirage and in the fog. the mask has to slip and slip it will and as you said – everytime she gets on the merry go round, the go round will go faster each time, until finally she will be thrown so bad, she will never want that ride again.
and if she does stay on – then it will never be happy as we normal people view happy. KatyDid said that only a disordered can remain with him as their sense of reality is warped.
you and I cannot warp our reality and hence what he does, whether it is with a Hollywood star or a hooker, is not our problem. He is not our problem.
LL – look away please.
petite
DW,
I can SO relate to what you’re saying here…….but only several years into my relationshit with my ex POS…………..
I was frightened to be alone with him at the beach,…..and he invited me MANY times………I was a client of his, under a federal government progam……….where many knew us BOTH………and alk he was concerned about was how big the mirror was in the room he picked out………it wasn’t about my comfort…….but his..yet he would get these astonishing rooms for his wife and kids….put her in front of a great ocean view…..
The last two times he “invited” me, I could not bring myself to go………
Part of me wishes to GOD i Had….but part of me is grateful I didn’t…….because I might end up in a situation like yours……..
Would it have made a difference had I given in? I don’t know now………..but he made SEVERAL efforts to be alone with me on great vacations…………..
But it felt like more opportunity for punishment, than for love…….
damn me.
LL
LL-I too was the OW with spath and I know how you feel but I was lovebombed the way DW was and prior to him, that was not in my nature at all, to be OW. I had tremendoud guilt though and a lot of bad things happened in my life after the breakup. I felt like I deserved bad things too but I don’t. He does. All he cared about what his social standing and he went back to a sexless romanceless marriage and now wife has him on a choke collar. I heard that he had to drive her to and from work each day, except when he’s on call overnight so that she can be sure that he is not stopping off to see women somewhere after work. She found out how he did the relationship with me. He can’t go out unsupervised anymore. He will wait until she finally trusts him just enough to take the collar off and he will be off and running.
You DO NOT DESERVE ANY OF THIS. I don’t care. You don’t. He is slime. I hope karma bites a huge hole in his ass one day. Just hope that you are around to see it. I am on a rant about these people right now because I am mad about the ones at work who fucked with me and God I hope they get there’s one day. My daddy told me, normally I wouldn’t say this to anyone but in your case, “don’t get mad, get even! The owners of the Saints decided to terminate the contract of one of our big players on the same day I got fired-Jeremy Shockey. Normally I would feel sad and be so sorry to see him go cuz he was a good part of getting us to our first superbowl and win last year. He happened to be the favorite player of one of the little narcisisstic princesses who treated me like shit at work. She was SO in love with him and had his jerseys and so on. Part of me was a little happy that her favorite player got the boot on the same day that I did. Sorry but I just can’t help it. It’s going to be a bitch for me to get another job. BTW, I will tell you again. YOU DO NOT DESERVE WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU !!!!!
Hi Schic,
how are you. see LL’s recent post on this thread.(25ht Feb, 2011, 10.50pm)
she is very upset as she saw her P with the new woman today.
I can feel her hurt. can you please give us some advice on how we should handle the thinking of the P with being a new one and like LL if she happens to see him with her, what should we tell ourselves to prevent the immensely painful hurt and despair. I tried to reply to her as to how I would talk to myself about it and try to heal. your advice.
petite
hi petite, I have been feeling some hurt and despair myself this week.
SFB (shit for brains) made another drive by on Monday
and I was out in the front yard. He stopped for a little chat.
Been feeling a bit crappy. He’s one good looking SOB.
I am glad I am not involved with him,
when his lips move ~~ he’s lying.
I can’t be with him,
I would be living his lie,
instead of living my life.
No going back, I know what he is.
But it hasn’t stopped me from thinking about it.
Jeez, if I think about him this much NOW,
imagine what a basket case I would be again
if I slid back into the fog of denial.
It killed me last time.
That’s pretty much what you tell yourself.
WE CAN’T KNOWINGLY LIVE A LIE
not anymore
lesson learned –
“I felt totally defeated when I saw this—.and, well in a way I guess I was”..part of me wonders if I don’t deserve it and that it’s not karma because I engaged in an affair with spath for nine years”..it wasn’t like I can pretend to be stupid and not understand what that meant”..I did—”..”
No. Don’t. Stop. Stop now. You have acknowledged the part that was wrong of you and you have lived the guilt and pain. Enough.
You were not spathed because you were the OW – you were spathed because that’s what spaths do. They spath. I was the wife. Katydid was the wife. We were still spathed – because that’s what spaths do.
It’s nothing more and nothing less than that. There is enough on your plate without buying back into that kind of guilt. If you are still beating yourself up so badly over it, perhaps a letter to the wife might help; an apology from the depths of your heart and soul, with no explanations or justifications, because she probably couldn’t bear to hear them anyhow. Just sorry for your part in it. How does that sound to you?
Shabbychic –
I am sorry that you are low this week. xx.
You need to remember how strong you have been and how far you have come. We all do, because we are all amazing people, wherever we are at.
To recognise that something is amiss and to seek the counsel of others is a very humble and strong thing to do – it demonstrates great character. Hold onto that. We all have something that THEY will never have.
I am pissed that SFB got a liver transplant,
what kind of karma is that? For a year I was looking
at the obits everyday, then he pops up with someone else’s liver.
I AM SURE THERE ARE MORE DESERVING PEEPS ON THE WAITING LIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i guess his kids are happy, only good thing i see about it
please forgive me, God, for thinking like this
aussiegirl, it’s driven me to a chocolate binge :/