Phillip Garrido: Father?

Phillip Garrido is technically “a father.” He allegedly kidnapped Jaycee Dugard when she was 11, sexually assaulted her, so that she subsequently gave birth to two children. Some have had difficulty attaching the term “father” to Garrido. One news report I saw said, “He allegedly “sired” two children.” These children (both girls), are reportedly 11 and 14. We do not know if Garrido also sexually assaulted the children.

This week I would like to discuss a difficult subject and ask some difficult questions. Because I am using the case of Phillip Garrido to guide this discussion, we are considering fatherhood. However, I believe the same points can be raised regarding motherhood.

Here are the questions:

At what point is a father not a father? At what point does a child not need both parents? At what point does a father’s treatment of a mother justify the termination of his parental rights? Should criminal behavior be considered in custody/visitation cases? At what point is a father so mentally ill that children should not see him? Should a child’s wish to see his/her father play a role in these decisions?

I’ll say up front that in the extreme case of Phillip Garrido few if any one will argue that a court should have the girls brought to visit him in prison. For most people the question of whether Garrido also sexually assaulted the girls would be a deciding factor. For the sake of this discussion we will assume that the question of sexual assault cannot be proven one way or another and that the girls won’t talk about that. We are going to make that assumption because in the vast majority of cases I know of that is the situation.

At what point is a father not a father?

State laws say that a rapist does not have parental rights. O.K. that makes sense for stranger rapes, but what if the rape occurred within the context of a relationship? What if a woman is raped, feels humiated then decides to continue a relationship with the “attacker” so although a rape occurred on Tuesday she consented on Friday and we don’t know which act resulted in conception.

What if there is coercion within the relationship. The man says, “Unless you take care of me sexually, I’ll divorce you and get custody of __________ (an existing child).” Out of fear the woman consents to sex sort of and gets pregnant again. In this case coercion is psychological as opposed to physical.

Now if you think that coerced sex is rape. What about covert coercion? I mean conning? What about the woman conned into the relationship? In this case her beliefs about the man and the nature of their relationship that caused her to consent were all based on lies. Had she known the truth, she would never have agreed to the relationship or to sex. What then?

At what point does the father’s treatment of the mother justify the termination of his parental rights?

In many cases the family courts have tried to separate the relationships of the family believing that a man’s treatment of his partner has nothing to do with his relationship with his children. It appears that even Phillip Garrido provided for these children in that they were supported financially. He also claims he nurtured and loved them.

If you say that kidnap and rape of the mother justifies termination of parental rights. I can tell you of a case where the woman initially consented to the relationship. The man who is a psychopathic con artist, eventually held her prisoner. She gave birth during that time and is now fighting to have the man’s parental rights terminated. He was arrested and is in prison for assaulting a sibling, the woman’s other child, but he is still “a father”- according to at least one judge.

Does a woman held prisoner have to constantly try to escape in order to “prove” she was not a “willing victim”? The victim in Garrido’s case did not apparently attempt escape. Are we to say she voluntarily lived with Garrido?

At what point is a father so mentally ill that children should not see him?

It is clear that in addition to being sexually deviant, and personality disordered, Garrido is also psychotic (delusional and hallucinating). Should children be protected from parents with psychosis? If so why? People with cluster B personality disorders have difficulty with interpersonal relationships and when the disorder is severe are not capable of placing another person’s welfare above their own. What then?

Should criminal behavior be considered in parental rights cases?

There are many children who are ordered to visit parents in prison. Why are these girls an exception? (Provided that they were not assaulted).

Should a child’s wish to see his/her father play a role in these decisions?

Garrido’s victim’s family members are quoted in the news as saying that the situation has been difficult for the girls since “He was their father.” Children have a natural tendency to seek to be with those who have raised them. Why do we use this tendency against them? Why do we think this is always a good thing? Shouldn’t concerned healthy adults make a decision based on reason, instead of a primitive drive children have?

My answers

We all have to stop denying that the above questions exist, put our heads together and come up with a just system for dealing with these questions. In the United States, I am afraid this should be a Federal Issue. It will be very difficult for us to fight to change the laws in every state separately. To say that a child always needs both parents is clearly absurd, as Garrido’s case shows us. If we look at each aspect of Garrido’s case we see there are some clear guidelines that can be developed to deal with situations where:

One parent harms the other.
One parent terrorizes, coerces and/or imprisons the other.
One parent is a criminal.
One parent is mentally ill.

Although cases where a child has two disordered parents are common (and most tragic), cases where there is one relatively healthy parent should be the focus of change. I assert this because by forcing a parent to deal with a disordered other parent, we condemn that person to suffer during what should be the happiest most productive years of their lives. Let’s face it, 18 years is a long time. Also since the psychiatric disorders are partly genetic, these children need the best, least stressful upbringing the least disordered parent can give them.

Please use the comments section to weigh in on your answers and post your own story with regard to these questions.

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Easy there girl……
We don’t need any ‘team members’ in prison… least not yet!
But, I think if the inmates killed each other more often in prison, it would open up more spots for more prisoners to kill off……
Now that would be a cycle I could support! I don’t think it happens near enough!

I don’t know if Jaycee Duggart’s interview was on last sunday or is coming up. I just watched a little lead in showing Diane Sawyer as the interviewer and it bring s out the mother lion in me.

Diane Sawyer makes me sick. Such a vulture. I BELIEVE Diane Sawyer when she says “I can’t imagine _____ (fill in blank with attrocity perpertrated on Jaycee). The reason I BELIEVE Diane is being honest in saying she can’t imagine is b/c it would require ability to feel empathy level that Diane is not able to feel. She is one of societies vampires, feeding on others pain as a CAREER. She’s been this shallow and vapid in other interviews too so I cringed when I learned that she was the choice for the Jaycee interview.

But we can debate who is worse, Diane the vampire, or those government employees who couldn’t be bothered to do their FN job.

The Jayeee Dugard interview in total will be on Sunday night. Her book comes out June 12th. They are doing clips of the interview to get viewers interested in it. (advertising as it were)

I don’t share your view of Diane Sawyer being dishonest, I think she is just doing her job.

As for Jaycee I hope that the book will give her some closure as well as some money. I think we all want to TELL OUR STORIES, I think that is part of the healing. She has kept her privacy for 2 years now and kept herself and her daughters sequestered and I think that was brave and wise. Those girls have as hard a row to hoe as Jaycee does. I can’t even imagine how her mother must have felt all those years. I pray that they all find peace and closure and happiness in this life and that the evil genes of that man are not apparent in those girls. God bless them is my prayer.

Reading that was very disturbing. I am speechless really.

In my defense, I wrote that I thought Diane Sawyer was being Honest.

I don’t think Diane needed to make ANY part of this story about herself in order to do her job. In the interview clip, Diane did a very manipulative technique which is used esp in interviewing crime suspects and terrorists; it raised my hackles and my mother lion protectiveness to see her use that same technique on Jaycee.

I do think Jaycee’s story is needed at this time, esp b/c I think americans in general have come together to feel very sad/angry about the fate of Kaylee. It’s like, if we can just save one, maybe we can sleep at night.

Katy, wasn’t attacking you in any way….ANY good reporter “manipulates” their subject…that’s what they DO! So when you are interviewed, believe me, you are manipulated. Some are “worse” than others, but they all do it to one extent or another. That’s “News” LOL

Katy, I also think that Americans in general are in Caylee’s corner and hopefully this TERRIBLE HORRIFIC DEATH and the life she had before it I am sure with her mother drugging her for a “baby sitter”—I hope that her life and her death will MOTIVATE AMERICANS TO TAKE NEGLECT OF CHILDREN MORE SERIOUSLY. I’ve gotten over my p articular anger at the Jury and I now think that Casey getting off may make Americans SO ANGRY that they will take more action against parents like Casey BEFORE the child is murdered.

Oh no Oxy. I didn’t think you were, just thought you didn’t realize I thought when a person says something about themselves, like Diane did, that I think she revealed something honest but not something I admired.

I saw this in my book club, where several ladies have such a good life and that’s great. The belief that others get to have a good life makes me feel hopeful that ones I love will get the same blessing. But sometimes they get an attitute that their good life makes them superior to those who’ve had tragedy, as if we are damaged goods b/c some spath raped us; not that I ever revealed the truth of my childhood to them, they would have ENJOYED the voyeurism of it, just as I believe Diane Sawyer did of Jaycee. The truth is, people are wounded and hopefully they heal, but they are NEVER damaged goods b/c of what someone ELSE did to them.

Amen to that Katy!

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