If there is one thing that gets me argumentative it is statements like this one that appeared in a recent research paper: “non-incarcerated psychopaths have an arguably equal potential to illuminate our understanding of the emotional difficulties, such as lack of empathy and lack of conscience, which underlie psychopathy and which lead to offending behaviour.” (emphasis mine)
Now I agree that we can learn from non-incarcerated psychopaths, I wrote recently about a well designed study where sociologists conducted interviews of some. But I cannot believe that statements like the one above make it through editorial review for another reason. Researchers in psychology have spent the last 50 years and untold millions of dollars uncovering the cause of behavior. There is no mystery, we know what causes behavior!
Behavior is caused by rewards and stopped by punishment. Actually rewards cause behavior a lot better than punishment stops it in most people. That is because the brain reward system is functionally stronger than the brain punishment system for most, and especially for sociopaths/psychopaths. The rewards that cause behavior do so because they increase dopamine activity in the mesolimbic dopamine system.
Offending behavior exists and persists because it is rewarding and that reward affects the activity of the mesolimbic dopamine system. To put it bluntly, nothing but desiring/liking to offend leads to offending behavior. To say otherwise is to negate all the work that has been done in this area. The evidence is so strong that genes involved in dopamine metabolism and that system have been identified as candidate genes in the familial transmission of “offending behavior”.
I will repeat, a lack of empathy does not cause offending behavior, neither does a lack of conscience. These two may cause a person to show restraint if he is tempted to aggress against another, but it is the aggressive impulse that causes aggression. So a person with empathy and conscience can still offend if he has the inclination to do so. Furthermore, there is evidence that repeated offending erodes away empathy and conscience.
There is another source of evidence that calls into question the hypothesis that lack of empathy causes the sociopath’s behavior. That source of evidence is people with autism and autism spectrum disorders.
I recently found two very impressive discussions comparing moral agency in autism and psychopathy. The first is, Autism, Empathy and Moral Agency, a paper published in The Philosophical Quarterly (52:340, 2002) written by Dr. Jeannette Kennett, Deputy Director and Principal Research Fellow, Centre for Applied Philosophy and Public Ethics, The Australian National University. Since I didn’t know to search Philosophical Quarterly for papers on psychopathy, I didn’t find that paper until I read “Moral Psychology, Volume 3, The Neuroscience of Morality: Emotion, Brain Disorders and Development” MIT Press, 2008. Dr. Kennett also has two chapters in that book. But Chapter 5, Varieties of Moral Agency: Lessons from Autism, is a discussion of Dr. Kennette’s paper by Dr. Victoria McGeer, of Princeton University’s Center for Human Values. There is a back and forth discussion of the issues raised, with several noted professors also participating.
Both sources begin their discussions by saying that moral agency has two parts two it, a thinking part and a feeling part. They trace these concepts back to philosophers Kant and Hume. Dr. Kennett concludes that Kant is right and that reason is the most important aspect of moral agency. Dr. McGeer points to emotions being important even for people with autism. I am going to summarize the arguments, then give you my own opinion.
Now like sociopathy, autism is a spectrum. A large percentage of people with autism are mentally retarded, so this discussion involves those autistic individuals who are not mentally retarded. I should point out that many sociopaths also have poor intellectual functioning. These sociopaths tend to live in prison.
Dr. Kenneth quotes the following description of autism,
The most general description of social impairment in autism is lack of empathy. Autistic people are noted for their indifference to other people’s distress, their inability to offer comfort, even to receive comfort themselves. What empathy requires is the ability to know what another person thinks or feels despite that is different from one’s own mental state at the time. In empathy one shares emotional reactions to another person’s different state of mind. Empathy presupposes amongst other things a recognition of different mental states. It also presupposes that one goes beyond the recognition of difference to adopt the other person’s frame of mind with all the consequences of emotional reactions. Even able autistic people seem to have great difficulty achieving empathy in this sense.
Autistic people also experience an “aloneness,” yet this aloneness does not bother them. They are indifferent to the presence of other people and do not require affection. One autistic adult is quoted as saying, “I really didn’t know there were other people until I was seven years old. I then suddenly realized that there were people. But not like you do, I still have to remind myself that there are people. I could never have a friend. I really don’t know what to do with other people really.”
High functioning autistic people recognize that they are very different from other people and report feeling “like aliens.”
Dr.Kenneth correctly concludes, “Both psychopaths and autistic people experience outsider status, deficiencies in social understanding and social responsiveness… Both have a tendency to treat other people as tools or instruments, (they have) a lack of strong emotional connectedness to others and impaired capacity for friendship.” She says clinicians and researchers link these impairments in both psychopathy and autism to impaired empathy. But autistic people are in fact worse off in this respect than psychopaths. Psychopaths at least can interact socially with ease and behave in a charming way.
She correctly questions, “If empathy is crucial to the development and exercise of moral agency, then why is the autistic person not worse off, morally speaking, than the psychopath?” She points out that in spite of the lack of empathy which is at the core of the disorder, “Many autistic people display moral concerns, moral feeling and a sense of duty or conscience.”
That autistic people are not antisocial is evidenced by the observation that few come to the attention of police. I did a Google news search using the terms autistic and arrest. Although there were many arrests of people for abusing those with autism, all of the arrests of autistics for aggression were for aggression that stemmed from self-defense. For example, a 10 year old boy with autism was arrested for assaulting staff at his treatment facility. The boy assaulted staff members because he was afraid and they tried to prevent his escape.
Drs. Kenneth and McGeer basically agree on the source of moral agency in those with autism, and what they say is fascinating with respect to sociopaths. The source of moral agency in autism is a preference for order and organization. Autistic people have reported that their sense of morality comes from a desire to see their world as orderly and organized. Dr. Kenneth states that this need for order gives rise to an extraordinary rationality in high functioning people with autism. She says that since morality is organized and logical that those with autism easily pick up moral principles.
I also did a search on morality in autism and can attest to several studies demonstrating normal levels of moral reasoning in autistic children who are not mentally retarded.
Drs. Kennett and McGeer also agree on the issue of the lack of moral agency shown by sociopaths/psychopaths. They both say that this group just plain doesn’t care about morality or regard moral principles as important. This is where psychopaths and autistics differ. Autistics identify with and value moral principles. Dr. Kennett states, “It is not the psychopath’s lack of empathy, which (on its own at any rate) explains his moral indifference. It is more specifically his lack of concern, or more likely lack of capacity to understand what he is doing, to consider the reasons available to him and to act in accordance with them.”
The point of disagreement of the two experts involves the relative role of emotion and reason in autistic people’s moral agency and valuation of morality. Dr. Kennett says that the autistic person is like Dr. Spock of Star Treck, and views life in purely logical terms. Since morality is logical and rational, autistics embrace it. Dr. McGeer disagrees, she states that the autistic need for order leads to an emotional connection to order and rationality. She feels that emotion does play a role in the moral lives of autistics, since she sees them as emotionally as well as rationally invested in maintaining order.
What about sociopaths/psychopaths and the need for order/organization? This disorder truly involves disorder. Psychopaths/sociopaths thrive on chaos and seem to have a dislike for order. Everywhere they go they are a source of extreme entropy as they take order and turn it into disorder. Both Drs. link the lack of appreciation for order to a lack of thoughtfulness in sociopaths/psychopaths. Sociopaths are both disordered and not fully rational or logical.
Dr. McGeer States:
This failure of reason may seem surprising. After all, our image of the psychopath is of a person who is rather good at serving his own interests without concern for the damage he does to others; hence of someone who is rather good at thinking and acting in instrumentally rational ways”¦As Dr. Carl Elliot observes, “While the psychopath seems pathologically egocentric, he is nothing like an enlightened egoist. His life is frequently distinguished by failed opportunities, wasted chances and behavior which is astonishingly self-destructive. This poor judgment seems to stem not so much from the psychopath’s inadequate conception of how to reach his ends, but from an inadequate conception of what his ends are.”
I agree with Dr. McGeer in that I believe that the emotionality associated with the need for order leads to the rationality of autistic people. The brain punishment system is relatively intact in autistics as compared to sociopaths and when an autistic person senses danger instead of being disconnected from the source of anxiety/fear, the autistic person engages thoughtfully to avoid danger (punishment).
The brain punishment/anxiety system of sociopaths is both hypofunctional and hyperfunctional in that they experience anxiety but fail to engage their thinking brains in the presence of danger. The high functioning autistic is well practiced at using his thinking brain to avoid anxiety. The psychopath rarely uses the thinking brain he has- to do anything other than get into trouble and hurt other people.
There are interesting parallels between the autistic’s use of reason to manage anxiety and normal development. It turns out that anxiety and fearfulness in the first two years of life actually predicts the development of conscience. The brain punishment system seems to be more plugged in to the rational brain in kids who are dispositionally more anxious. These kids also have a more highly developed sense of empathy later on.
I am thankful to Drs. Kenneth and McGeer for their seminal contributions to our understanding of sociopathy/psychopathy. I encourage the scholars among you to purchase their book from Amazon. However, I think they both missed a further unifying explanation for why autistics are moral and psychopaths/sociopaths are not.
That explanation involves the brain reward system, which is fundamentally different in autistics and sociopaths. Autistics do not experience social reward, maybe not even in the sexual sense. They are indifferent to relationships. The main reward autistics live for must be the love of thinking because that is all they have. I don’t see that too many are obese, so I don’t think they even turn to food for their source of pleasure. Instead their inner worlds are rich with thoughts and reason. They busy themselves with their own thoughts. Most like who they are, enjoy life and wouldn’t choose a different life if they could.
The sociopath on the other hand, is completely dependent on social reward. The sociopath cannot tolerate aloneness because he has no entertaining thought-life to fall back on. The problem with the social reward system in sociopaths is that the only social reward they experience is dominance. All of their antisocial behavior is motivated by their dominance drive. When they lie, cheat or steal it is about gaining short term interpersonal dominance over some poor unsuspecting person. Autistics can’t lie and are as indifferent to dominance reward as they are to affection reward.
Dr. Keltner and associates at UC Berkeley are engaged in important research on the effects on people of obtaining social power. It turns out that when many people get power reward they change. Self-esteem increases, empathy is suspended, and they become uninhibited and less rational. They also think more about sex and tend to use more foul language. Their moral agency is diminished.
I believe that this response to power reward is the point of connection between sociopaths and the rest of us. Sociopaths are constantly in a state of power intoxication, or are in search of their next power fix. The rest of us can manage the power reward better, but the behavior of our politicians suggests that power intoxication doesn’t only make sociopaths less rational.
I could use your help on two things this week. First, I want your opinion on the term moral agency. I have been looking for a single term that would describe the moral deficits of sociopaths. Up until now I have used the term low “moral reasoning ability” because I couldn’t find another better term. Do you think people will better connect with/comprehend the term low “moral agency” or poor “moral reasoning ability”? Actually moral agency is more precise and technically more correct, but will people get it?
The second question I have concerns successful psychopaths. When I read the autism papers, it occurred to me that successful psychopaths do one of two things that unsuccessful ones don’t do. They either have a better appreciation for order or organization, or they find someone to organize and order their lives for them. If you know a successful psychopath, can you comment on how he/she is successful in spite of the chaos he/she tends to cause?
holywatersalt – You say, “I don’t really believ everyone operates just for rewards and to avoid punishment, if that were the case we’d have no martyr’s , no self-sacrifice.” I think there’s more than one way to look at rewards and punishment. There’s the higher level reasoning of “if I clean my room, my mother will be pleased with me and let me play outside,” or “if I drive the speed limit I will not get a ticket,” but I think there are more subconcious aspects to it as well. When I take on burdens in my office because I know they need to be done I’m not doing it for a reward, it doesn’t make me feel happy to do it, but if I don’t do them and they fall through the cracks I feel guilty, so you could say my self-sacrifice is in fact a way of avoiding the punishment of guilt. I think quite often when someone does something out of the goodness of their hearts, they aren’t conciously looking for a reward, but they feel good about what they do and that in itself is a reward.
The S I knew operated on that higher level of rewards and punishments, “if I compliment her, bring her flowers, and put her on a pedastal she’ll do whatever I ask her to do,” or “I need to make this fake ID look as real as possible so I won’t get arrested.” When he brought me flowers it wasn’t because it made him feel good to make me happy, it was because it made him look good, it made people admire him. And when he bought me gifts after lying to me and committing credit card fraud, it wasn’t because he felt bad about what he did, it was to try to distract me with presents so I wouldn’t turn against him. I also have the feeling he gave me those gifts so he could try to implicate me in his schemes if I tried to turn him in.
Jim, you are so funny!!!!
To answer Liane’s questions, I think “moral reasoning ability” makes more sense than “moral agency.” Moral agency may fit best by definition, but when I’m reading I have to stop and think about what it means which distracts me from the actual discussion at hand. Moral reasoning ability is very clear.
I’m assuming when you talk about successful S’s and P’s you’re talking about ones who have attained wealth and power and are maintaining it. I agree with keeping_faith, they will never have real financial or emotional success, but they consider themselves successful I’ve they’ve achieved the appearance of success. The S I knew was on his way to success, but he slipped up too many times, and shot himself in the foot. He was good at manipulating systems and playing by the rules just enough to fool everyone else and get ahead, but his mask slipped and he got sloppy and lost everything he’d built up. I think the successful ones build a buffer around themselves by controlling people who can maintain order for them while they live in chaos.
Sorry, but amoral seems to fit better. Rules don’t apply to them. Truth doesn’t apply to them. Morals don’t apply. They are neither “moral” nor “immoral”…they are “amoral”.
Jim, I do agree with you. Somehow moral agency sounds like a club for moral police rather than immoral (amoral)people who hurt others without a concern…..
Yeah, I just went back and reread what Liane wrote, that she was looking for a term that “would describe the moral deficits of sociopaths,” you’re right Jim, “amoral” would be the most fitting. “Low moral reasoning ability” would imply they just aren’t very good at applying morals to their reasoning, when morals aren’t really a consideration for them.
Speaking on issues of “trust” with the Ps. I think that THEY think that we are sort of like them (or at least some of them do) and since they know THEY have evil intentions, they assume we also do, therefore, they have difficulty “trusting” us.
DO UNTO OTHERS, BEFORE THEY DO UNTO YOU. Seems to be their motto. They EXPECT us, it seems, to be the way they are and therefore it is fine for them to “strike first” before we strike them. Since they have no way of knowing that we are NOT like them, and they ascribe their own feelings/thoughts/intentions to us, then why should they feel guilty?
We, in turn, ascribe them “human compassion etc” when they have none, but we think (or seem to) that everyone has “good down there some where” when in fact, that is NOT TRUE.
They do learn what triggers us, and learn how to “herd” us in the direction they want us to go, to keep us off balance, to distract us, etc. just like my Border Collie herds goats, sheep or pigs, or cattle. They know that with sheep they must stay far out and not come too close cause sheep are stupid and will panic, so to accomplish their purposes they do that. With cattle they know that they must be more aggressive and come in closer and even bite the animals to control them, with goats, some goats will fight back, and some won’t so they have to assess the individual goats a bit. In herding hogs, they have to learn to bite the ears of the hogs if needed, but also that pigs can also bite . With horses, they have to learn that they CANNOT herd horses because horses will and are equipped to kill the dogs rather than run from them.
I think the psychopaths are able to assess whether we are a “goat, a sheep, a pig, or a cow,” and treat us the way they treat others of our emotional species. When they come up against a “horse” they avoid that species because they know that they might get seriously hurt.
I think our task for our own safety is to quit being “sheeple” as the psychopaths call us on their web site, and become EQUINES—I am working on becoming a female donkey, a JENNY, the female equivalent of a JACK ASS! SMART, UPPITY, taking no nonsense from anything or anyone trying to “herd” me, and if I see strange behavior or aggressive behavior, either retreat or fight, whichever is appropriate.
Someone sent me a series of photograpsh recently of a mule (half donkey, half horse, but smart and gutsy like the donkeys) killing a COUGAR. So, I might even settle for being a “Molly Mule” (female mule) but I will never again be a SHEEPLE. TOWANDA!!!!
I wanted to post this link again for those that are interested about the whole nature/nurture and research into it. The study is one that follows up and adds to previous research:
Following analysis, the results showed that, in children with psychopathic tendencies, antisocial behaviour was strongly inherited. In contrast, the antisocial behaviour of children who did not have psychopathic tendencies was mainly influenced by environmental factors. These findings are in line with previous research showing that children with psychopathic tendencies are at risk to continue their antisocial behaviour and are often resistant to traditional forms of intervention.
Dr Essi Viding says: “Our research has important implications. The discovery that psychopathic tendencies are strongly heritable suggests that we need to get help for these youngsters early on. Any behaviour is influenced by multiple genes and an unlucky combination of genes may increase vulnerability to a disorder.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/25078.php
BloggerT, that’s an interesting research project, but it would be interesting to know how they factored out the impact of psychopathic parents or close relatives.
On the Viding study…
I believe I blogged on it when it first came out. The problem is with the way they report their data. It is misleading. Anyone who wants the study, email me at ljleedom@aol.com. When you really look at their data they come up with a heritability estimate of about 50% the same as most other studies.
What does it all mean?
It means that about half of the differences between us all in terms of antisocial behavior are due to genetics, half to environment. But in all studies there is likely a gene environment interaction that is hidden in the genetic component. For example when tuberculosis was first discovered they thought it was a genetic disease because the genes make a person susceptible to the disease, even though the disease is caused by a bacteria.
I get argumentative with some researchers for two reasons. They want to say that psychopathy is 100% genetic. Then they want to say there is some disorder that involves antisocial behavior that is environmental. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR THAT, I mean two separate disorders. Just plain criminality- your guys in jail pass thier criminality on to their kids. Also most everyone in prison is psychopathic. Their average PCL-R scores are 20 which is much higher than outside prison. There is no eveidence yet that a score of 20 is caused by something different than a score of 25. I have looked for this and there is none.
I will give you the evidence that all antisocial behavior stems from personality over the next several weeks. So the criminal in jail has a different personality. All of the environmental risk likely creates an “antisocial personality” which then offends to a greater or lesser degree. Please get the book Sex Differences in Antisocial Behavior. It is a discussion of the results of a comprehensive longitudinal study of a birth cohort of 1600 who were born in Dunedin NZ in 1972. They have followed these folks, assessing them in detail for 30 plus years now and their results are amazing with respect to what causes antisocial behavior. Also for you guys out there, they found no sex difference in dv perpetration! Tune in next week for more…