When I was a med student, I studied animal models for human stress and depression. The best animal model of what a psychopath does to others is that of the rodent resident-intruder paradigm. In this model, males are introduced into the home territory of other males, they experience social defeat and are removed before they are injured. Repeated exposure to this situation produces a defeated animal who is chronically submissive and gives up without a fight whenever he encounters other males. Below is the posture of a defeated mouse.
The physiology of this defeated rodent resembles human depression very closely. The defeat state can be reversed with antidepressants. Defeat is associated with elevated stress hormones, immune dysfunction and learned helplessness.
I think it is important to know that the potential to develop the defeat mentality exists within us. In humans this mentality takes on a more sophisticated form. When defeated many people become enveloped by what I call “the victim identity.”
Identity or self concept means how you think about yourself and how you think others perceive you. Identity and self concept always includes some component of how dominant or socially potent we consider ourselves to be. Social status is another related part of the self concept.
An encounter with a sociopath/psychopath often leaves a person defeated in every sphere of life. The status, reputation, career, finances that took a lifetime to build vanish. The victim is left in limbo, not knowing how to put the pieces together.
It is in this limbo that the victim identity develops. A person who used to be financially well off and productive having lost everything now adjusts to that loss by defining him/herself as “victim”. This victim identity is further supported by the constant pain and anxiety the person feels. Why do I hurt? Why have I lost? Why am I defeated? I experience all these things because I am a victim.
The minute I say, “I am a victim.” That word victim becomes part of my self definition. There is a certain comfort in the victim identity. It helps a person explain and cope with their external reality and internal symptoms.
The danger in the victim identity is that it will come to be the totality of a person’s self-definition. Once this happens, the victim stops living, and is like the defeated mouse, assuming the posture at every challenge.
I challenge you today to consider the place your identity as a victim has in terms of your total self-definition. Is the trauma the first thing you think of when you think of yourself? Are you being fair to yourself when you identify with your victim status? Perhaps you have a good deal more living to do than your victim identity will allow?
It is important to be whole. That means the part of you who is/was a victim gets integrated with the other parts. “Victim” has to become just a piece of the puzzle that is you.
I confess that I am aware of my victim identity most in the company I choose to keep. I feel most comfortable relating to other people who understand psychopaths and what they do. If that also describes you realize that is a sign of victim identity. It is important to acknowledge these tendencies and balance them by having friends who are not victims or family members of psychopaths/sociopaths.
It is especially important to spend time with functional families/couples who love and care for each other.
Try never to take pride in your status as a victim or use it as an excuse for dysfunction. If you experience symptoms of PTSD, that is a challenge to overcome not a curse you are condemned to live with.
Ask yourself today if you really want to be like that poor defeated mouse.
For another opinion and further discussion of the victim identity see The Line between Victims and Abusers (although I do not agree with all Dr. Stosny says here).
Star – I was talkin to a person that knew my X and he said “oh yeah he has two kids’ %^^%$$$%^&*( I have not even let my mind go there – that just can not be true – he was with me 3 years and I new him 2 years before that and kids were never mentioned – so apparently this person was talking about someone else or he was just like my X and was having a good time f–kin with my mind…..So I have decided if my x was nothing but a big lie then I pronounce him dead – I never knew him – who? nah I never met him – so dont tell me nothing more – my feeble brain cant take it…..
Wow, Henry, that doesn’t surprise me about your ex. Is there any way you can avoid talking to people who knew/know him? I usually give my bad exes (of which there are a few) “custody” of the friends and common acquaintances. I really don’t want to know what they’re up to.
Star – This was about a year ago and I just could not wrap my brain around it. Yes I avoid people who knew him. We did not have any friends in common. He did not have any friends period, all his friends are new. My point was, the less we know the better off we are, dont ya think? I was responding to your situation – BOINK~~~!!!
Was that boink for me? I hope not; I’ve had a rough enough week! lol That was a really awkward situation I was in at the new school. It took me by surprise.
Dear All…Thank you for your comments..I am not used to people understanding this situation…even had friends drop me stating my life was too high drama for them to deal with..some friend huh! I NEVER chose this position…makes one very sorry to have been a trusted good person. I did look into a couple of domestic shelters and they listened and didnt really get the whole sociopath thing…This website is amazing…and with all the self doubt I go through sometimes…I just can’t believe how many of us are here. It’s hard even though I am a victim of a SP that such evil exists..but I do know it very well. People dont understand this…they think its a simple just leave…I wish it were that simple…but I will continue to read more and more to empower myself to totally get out..but its hard to lose everything you ever worked for then explain to your children what has happened…I always wanted them to be proud of me…I’ve always been a single mom…giving them a decent life..now what..Mommy trusted a guy and lost everything…Its horrifing But again I will try to learn more and work on a plan “B” to get out of this…thanks so much
Dear BoPeep,
I’m so glad that you landed here, if there is ONE place in the world to get good information and support from people who DO understand what you are talking about, it is HERE. READ and learn! Welcome!!! You are in a safe and healing place.
BoPeep….I too have friends and family who stare at me in disbelief and look as though they want to go screaming into the night at the mere mention of my situation. I have found that here at Love Fraud I can just say what I need to say. I feel myself getting stronger and more empowered just by showing up here. Stay strong, Peep
P.S. I bingo’d tonight !!
Hi everyone,
After an unsatisfactory 1st marriage of 26 years and 6 yrs alone I was courted by and married a man with NPD. It lasted 5 years in total. Things finally blew up when I found his porn/swinger/internet activities. Finding a highly qualified therapist who was also a psychologist was an enormous help. I was 58 years old and had lived not recognising my patterns til then. The therapist diagnosed NPD immediately and guided me into recognising the need to leave.Being codep ‘victim’ I didn’t realise fully that was an option. He’s helped me through all that was involved including dealing with the trauma bonding/victim stuff the lot. What he has done most of all is teach me to put myself and my need first. So 18 months after leaving I have therapy/meditate/ work at 12 step for codep/read and I enrolled in an art programme. I am practising asking for what I want from family and friends. I am still tied to the NPD becuase he is stalling the marriage settlement – holding onto everything and avoiding selling the house – its easy to undermine that in this economic climate. This summer I am moving back to my old town to face him and to be active around selling our home – I could not have done this a year ago. Letting go of victim mentality – is very hard because when I was in it I couldn’t see it – thank god for one good friend who encouraged me to look hard at the marriage and the therapist wwho is helping me get out from all this.
Hi all,
I am not exactly new to this site, been reading whatever Donna sent. It has been helpful to understand why things happened to me and that I wasn’t alone (not that I wish for anyone to encounter what I had been thru).
I have never been active because I never see myself as a victim. Reason is I have been suppressing those memories. They creep up once in awhile but I live on with my busy life just the same. I simply could not understand that I could fall into such trap, twice. I run a company of 170 employees and if they were to know, where will I stand? Will I command the same respect?
To be honest, I am not that strong, I have thought of ending my life to not feel the pain anymore. But I surround myself with my family & friends, so that I would not do silly things. I probably won’t coz I have been living alone just fine. I kept telling myself that it’s not worth dying for these con men.
Physical torture, mental abuse,and financial drainage with two different men. How stupid can one get? Some said I was desperate for love but I was not even looking. One of them, I know by doing charity promoted by a friend. I thought they are kind, love arts, animals,kids, and really good people….
Why do I attract them? What’s wrong with me? I know now.
Sorry for the rants, was feeling a bit down due to another deceptive relationship. I do look like the defeated mouse now. I don’t know if I have the strength to carry on sometimes. So tired that I wish to not wake up after I sleep…