By Joyce Alexander, RNP (retired)
Last week I wrote an article about the captain of the sunken Italian ship who said he “fell into a life boat by accident” and that was why he got off the ship very early, not waiting for the rescue efforts. It also turned out this married man was with his lover and was drunk at the time the ship was steered, on his command, closer than normal to an island so he could show it off to the residents and his friends there, crashing it into known rocks.
Even after the ship had hit the rocks and was stuck, he denied to the company and potential rescuers that anything other than an electrical “black out” occurred and delayed even issuing an “abandon ship” until it was on its side an hour later, making the ability to abandon ship at that point almost impossible. Amazingly there was actually a small number of dead and missing out of about 4,000 people on the ship since it happened close to shore. I stated that his unbelievable lie (alone) made me think the man was a psychopath, and subsequent information confirms this to me that the man is high in P-traits.
Josh Powell
Another horrible tragedy, which also had significant “Red Flags” displayed, was reported this past week in the news. Josh Powell, whose wife had “disappeared” a couple of years ago, blew up his home, killing himself and his two young sons on a “supervised” visit. His father, who had lived in his home, had previously been arrest for secretly videotaping others undressed.
Read: ”˜Mommy’s in the turnk’: Sons of missing woman gave chilling account of her disappearance before father killed them in gas blast, on DailyMail.co.uk.
Here is a short quote from the article:
It is a horrific end to a long, bizarre tale. Josh Powell was under investigation in the disappearance of his 28-year-old wife Susan from their West Valley City, Utah, home in December 2009. He claimed he had taken the boys on a midnight excursion in freezing temperatures when she vanished.
His explanation of how and why his wife “disappeared” is bordering on the unbelievable level of the Captain of the Concordia “falling into a life boat by accident.” His children later said that they went camping and “mom was in the trunk.”
Another red flag to me is that the Josh Powell’s father is a pervert, and was arrested in the home with pornography he had secretly recorded of girls and women. He is currently in prison awaiting trial. Since we know that psychopathy and dysfunction tends to run in families, both by genetics and by environmental influence, I would say that Josh’s father being a sexual criminal would put him high on my list of “red flag” people associated with Josh, and would give Josh a second look from me.
Learning from the news
Learning about “red flags” doesn’t have to be done by being around people. We can “practice” looking for red flags in the evening news, the news we read online, in the papers and the stories we hear about. When we hear about some horror story, or just some person’s divorce, we may be able to use that as a “learning experience” and see the red flags that, as we practice, will become more and more obvious to us.
I was also glad to see an article in yesterday’s Sunday paper by Carolyn Hax in her column Tell Me About It. A young man talked about catching his girlfriend in a lie and how controlling she was ”¦ and he asked Carolyn her opinion of this relationship. Carolyn didn’t call the woman a controlling witch but she told him to dump the woman, that there was no chance a control freak who was a habitual liar was going to be rehabilitated. Good advice. I’m glad to see more advice along this line in some of our “advice to the lovelorn” columns.
If we look around us in the news, in our neighborhood, we can watch for the “red flags” that show themselves all over the place. The Flags that tell us “get out of that relationship” or “don’t start a relationship with that person” or “aren’t we glad we didn’t have a relationship.” Not all of these people will be full fledged murdering psychopaths or sexual perverts, but they will have some character flaws that we don’t want to deal with ”¦ like pathological lying or controlling behavior. It helps us learn and the “tuition” cost is zero.
20years,
Slightly irritated by your sweeping generalisation regarding professionals that are involved in child abuse cases. Here in the UK Teachers are expected to adhere to strict guidelines according to “Safeguarding Children” In addition, Teachers take a child’s disclosure extremely seriously and follow set procedures to ensure information is passed on to the named person/child protection officer.
Sadly, this is where our “power” to protect a child ends.
Edit: sometimes children are abused or worse than that, they are murdered by their parents/guardians etc. In spite of the most supreme efforts of the professionals involved. It was interesting to watch the reaction of the Police Officer when the journalist from NBC asked him if he thought that there was any more the police or social services could have done. These people had their hands tied effectively. By the judicial system. Please don’t tar all people/professionals with the same brush.
We are not all “do gooders” with no brain
Hi Strongawoman, I’m glad you commented. There might be others who reacted the way you did to my post, and I’m sorry for any offending I did.
I have worked as a teacher, too, and I know there are guidelines. I know about mandated reporting. This is/was not meant as any kind of diatribe against individuals. I know how hard it is for the well-meaning professionals to be discerning… but that was sort of my point. That no matter how well-meaning most people are, they can (and do) misread the situation. And the misreading of the situation can cause HARM.
I am not sure what the answer is. I wonder if mandated reporters realize what happens to their report after they make it. I wonder… do they realize that the investigator might leave that (falsely accused) family feeling like they’ve just had a home invasion by a two year old wielding a baseball bat, smashing their lives to bits, then smiling with satisfaction for a job well done?
I just wonder… I wonder if the mandated reporters believe that they did the right thing. i know they don’t have total choice; but I do know that in many cases they can use *some* discretion, to not do any knee-jerk, “just in case, err on the safe side” reporting of families.
I hope to raise some awareness that in the case of CPS investigations, it is not “innocent until proven guilty.” No, these investigations are brutal, underhanded, tossed off quickly (perhaps they are overworked and don’t have the resources to do a proper investigation, but shouldn’t they?). I was yelled at, I was threatened with loss of my employment, with loss of my reputation, with loss of my children. And I had done nothing wrong. This was traumatizing — I am not exaggerating when I say that CPS + police into my home felt like I was attacked in a home invasion.
I also know that not every CPS investigator is a spath. I’m not saying mine was, but she sure was a lying b**ch who seemed to enjoy talking to me rudely, threateningly, and manipulated the facts of the case to make it as hard on me as she could. (I have the personality of a kindhearted, reasonable person and there was no excuse for her to treat me that way. I was polite and “helpful” throughout). She had her mind made up, or some other agenda. I don’t really know what motivated her. (these days I think: spath. But at the time… I was devastated and traumatized. I still didn’t have the Lovefraud spath-knowledge I have now). I only know that she did not talk to anyone who could have told her the truth — she got her data ONLY from my spath ex-husband and from people he told her to contact. And treated me accordingly. I will be a bit bitter about this, for awhile.
I blame a system that does not have enough checks and balances. I blame overzealous people and politics, and a dynamic that gets off on the stories of “bad parents” and pointing the finger… cause it’s just so much fun to find a real baddy and make an example of them.
But I did not mean any maligning of the folks who are caught up in this system. all are individuals, most of them are well-meaning and want to help. And need to follow guidelines and directions in order to keep their jobs.
But the fact is, my family and I were injured/harmed by this system. Like it or not, this system is made up of individuals who have different roles to play. I came out of the experience with my viewpoint forever changed, about the role that the state *should* play (or *how* they should play it), with regard to families, family justice, family crimes, etc. Because we were harmed, and they didn’t give a ****.
I just saw your edit. I don’t think I was tarring anyone. I’m sorry if you feel that I was. There were no sweeping generalizations intended, certainly not about individuals. It is a problem with the system, but only individuals can change that.
I also bet that some falsely accused individuals are treated fairly by the system and end up not feeling that harm was done.
I never “fault” mandated reporters. However… there is nothing stopping a mandated reporter from speaking up TO the system to say that there are things that might be changed.
For me, I will not speak up or feel that I can speak up, until my children are grown. I’m still too scared of what they might do. They have a lot of power. But my outrage is profound.
Strongawoman, I allowed myself to get carried away by triggered emotions. I’m sorry if I offended you.
If you were falsely accused then that is terrible. You have my heartfelt sympathy.
Perhaps if the system had been “over zealous” these two children would be alive.
You can’t make an omelette without breaking some eggs
No need to apologise 20 years. I feel strongly that’s all. Happy evening to you
The last article I read said the social worker was having a hard time. I imagine that is the case, I can’t imagine otherwise.
See my post on “Deadly blasts” thread.
ps strongwoman and 20 years, I applaud you two working out the misunderstanding/trigger issue above..Good for you. WELL DONE@.......!!@.......
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Feathers slightly ruffled but would never wish to upset or trigger anyone here. Thanks for the support.
Ps I checked out link you posted re the social worker. Password required.
Pps My heart goes out to her