Editor’s note: Resource Perspectives features articles written by members of Lovefraud’s Professional Resources Guide.
Sarah Strudwick, based in the UK, is author of Dark Souls—Healing and recovering from toxic relationships.
Re-traumatising and PTSD
(Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder)
By Sarah Strudwick
Sarah Strudwick profile in the Lovefraud Professional Resources Guide
Everyone always writes about the positive aspects of coming out of a relationship with a psychopathic personality. You read things about how as a result of being in such a toxic relationship, it empowers you and teaches you how to recognise and spot predators. If you have never learnt how to have boundaries in the past, you learn how to have them. You learn about healthy self-respect and self-love, and most people decide, if they have had proper counseling, that they will never come have this type of relationship again.
When it comes to future dating, if you have never been able to spot the warning signs of what could be a relationship based on power and control, you learn those, too. That way you never enter relationships that are likely to harm you again.
There are many, many positives that come out of the relationship with the narcissist or the psychopath, but what is the downside of having had a relationship with a psychopath? And do people really understand how the relationship has affected its victims?
Triggers
Few therapists really understand what goes on with a psychopathic personality and the damage they can do to their victims. Chances are, the abuser will often turn the tables on the victim and try to blame them. Sometimes they might even tell the therapist that the victim is crazy, and being such charming, convincing characters, it’s not long before the therapist is on the narcissist’s side, questioning the sanity of the victim.
Most victims of psychopathic personalities suffer from PTSD long after the event. It takes many forms, and it needs a very understanding therapist to understand exactly what is going on, and to not judge the victim for being triggered. It could be something as small as a smell that triggers them, or the fact that they bump into someone in the street who looks like their abuser. If a victim has had a history of attracting abusive types throughout his or her life, then the victim may start to develop the “girl/boy who cried wolf” syndrome, whereby if they want to tell the therapist something, they feel the therapist won’t believe them. Perhaps the therapist may appear to be disinterested in what the victim is telling them. They will say things like, “Well you should be happy, after all, think of all the positives.” “You have a nice job now, things are going good aren’t they?” “Think how lucky you are to be rid of (fill in the blank).”
A small trigger like the above is fairly easy for the victim to deal with. But what happens if something more serious happens within a few years of leaving a psychopath? Say, for example, you are put in a situation where you meet another psychopath who threatens your safety. This is challenging enough for anyone who has never even been in relationship with one, but its even more challenging when you have already had a relationship with one. Victims are often left hypervigilant, and know exactly how to spot abusers far better than they did before. So when another abusers slips through their radar, the victims will immediately blame themselves, and say things like, “Why didn’t I spot them?” “Why didn’t I see it coming?”
Why? Because the person doing it is a psychopath, and they can trick and con anyone. Even with the best tools, experts get conned by these people day in day out.  My friend is an “expert” on psychopathic personalities, and yet she still got caught out again by these insidious individuals. The therapist, on the other hand, may just pooh pooh it, and think it’s just another trigger.
My friend’s experience
Most recently a friend contacted me who was unfortunate to have had a run-in with another psychopath after her relationship with the previous psychopath had ended. It had been more than two years, so she was already well on her way to being completely healed.
What happened was pretty disgusting and would have been enough to upset any normally stable person, but this particular situation sent my friend into a tailspin. The therapist, not recognising that she had PTSD from her previous encounter that was re-triggered by this new event with a different psychopathic person, decided to prescribe her antidepressants. As a result of her interactions with the therapist, when she eventually went back for counseling she decided to tell the therapist she was okay and that nothing was wrong.
Nothing could be further from the truth. But what happens is that victims may start to feel like there is no point in even telling their therapist anything, because they just don’t get it. The therapist may put the victims reaction down to being “hypersensitive” or “reactionary.”
To change or not to change
I have been in a similar situation myself and it puts the target in a difficult situation. They don’t want to go and see another therapist, because the new therapist will ask why the victim has left the previous therapist. If they do find someone else it, then means churning everything all over again from the past that isn’t necessary, and that the victim doesn’t particularly want to talk about, thus reinforcing any old traumas that may well have been dealt with. The therapist may blame it on the victim’s old pattern, and not even understand that this is a “brand new trauma” with a “brand new psychopath,” complicated by the fact that they are also dealing with re-traumatising and probably a bit of PTSD thrown in for good measure.
(Notice I use the term target, as pyschopaths will target both people who have been victims of psychopaths and those who have never had the misfortune of meeting them.)
Options
As a result, the target feels helpless and victimised again, and although, like any normal person, they may wish to seek help because of their previous experiences, they are left with a couple of options.
1) Sharing their experiences with people who have been through the same, i.e., other victims/targets. This can be okay, but sometimes this can prolong the healing, especially if they go on forums where the victims actually enjoy being stuck in victim mode and then they have to churn up all the old stuff again, which they don’t want to do.
2) Sharing their experiences with friends and family, most of whom do not understand at all and really don’t want to hear it all again, least of all that the victim may have met another psycho.
3) Internalising it and trying to figure out for themselves why they are being re-traumatised again, and dealing with it the best way they can.
The third option is okay IF they have done enough healing and had a good therapist in the first place. But what if the therapy they got in the first place wasn’t enough? The victim is back to square one, and may have to start their healing all over again.
Getting it
My hope is that one day, therapists really start to understand what it feels like to be in a relationship with a psychopath, and not just to lecture their clients about what victims should and shouldn’t do. Most therapists may have had a few run-ins with the odd narcissist, which although unpleasant enough in itself, compared to the psychopath is pretty easy to spot and a walk in the park to some degree. However few, if any, therapists have ever had to deal with a true psychopathic malignant narcissist.
Having had more than a few run-ins with psychopaths, when I wrote Dark Souls it took me many months after thinking I was completely healed to realise that PTSD was what was keeping me stuck, and not that I was some kind of psycho attractor. A colleague finally reminded me that the only types of people who are likely to read a book like mine are those who have been victims, or those who are psychopaths thinking they are buying a book that will teach some new tricks. Sadly for them, my book is to empower victims of psychopaths, not the other way around.
The general public is not aware of psychopathic behaviour. Very few therapists, on the other hand, understand psychopathic behaviour at all ,unless they have worked directly with them, or been on the receiving end of one of their scams.
There is no quick fix when it comes to getting over a psychopath and you will only heal as quickly as you allow yourself to. The good news is that therapy works for neurotics who have been victimised by these people, so by seeking therapy you are on the first step to recovery. My advice to anyone seeking help, if they have been with someone they know to be a psychopath, is to make sure you seek someone that understands their disordered personalities and has dealt with victims of psychopaths, sociopaths or narcissists, or you could be in for a long bumpy ride.
excellent article–thank you!
Thanks for this insightful article, Sarah….while many therapists don’t get it….it is like a “specialist” physician may be the only good option for treating a specific kind of cancer, rather than a “general practitioner” physician, but finding the SPECIALIST therapist who is very skilled at dealing with the victims of psychopaths may be difficult. On the other hand, though, for “garden variety neurotics” it may be better to go to a general family practitioner….
Being victimized by a psychopath leaves a very specific pattern of damage I think that requires the “specialist” who does have experience rather than the general practitioner who may actually decide the target/victim is “crazy” or imagining the persecution/abuse.
As a retired advanced practice nurse who worked for many years in general family medicine, I’ve had patients who came to me with vague complaints that I passed on to physicians when I couldn’t find anything wrong and even to specialist physicians who could “find nothing wrong” with the patients, who continued to complain of ill health….and eventually something very serious WAS Found to be wrong with the patient…and I’ve also had patients who were continually complaining about this or that, and were known to have psychogenic and hysterical problems…but even those patients sometimes have REAL heart attacks even if they are “crazy,” so must be taken seriously as well…
I was fortunate that both my psychiatrist and my therapist believed my bizarre story (though I did have to take a witness and some court documents to show the therapist!) ….and both “got it” about psychopaths, but I know other therapists who don’t get it about Ps.
Thanks again for this insightful article.
sarah, wow. thank you so much for writing this. I think that there seems to be far less information about retraumatization out there and it is so refreshing and validating to see you elaborate on it. I mean if there’s anything to make someone feel more alone it’s being retraumatized by another sociopath and not being able to make sense of their situation, what with having dealt with PTSD from a previous encounter already. I related a lot with what you wrote, having encountered more than one sociopath in my life myself and as such am very grateful that you brought this to light here on LF. Very insightful, thank you. Bless
I have just been triggered by my ex-bf, a sociopath. I don’t noticed it as it is occurring, but immediately after any contact, I feel abused again, and yes- mad at myself that I didn’t notice it while it was happening.
I am in fear. I am just over one month from finding out if he is about to walk out of jail again, into the world, and escape from 14-21 yrs worth of charges. And he may just do it- he has charmed his way out of everything but 5 yrs prison time of those charges already- despite the fact they have evidence he committed every crime he’s charged with. I am in disbelief and FEAR this person could likely escape everything.
The relief I felt in my heart when he was finally sent to jail changed my life, and I’m going through the horror that none of it made any difference at all and he could walk.
This is my first time posting here. I have often read the blog for support, but only now feel up to posting something and standing out there in it…
Lily
New Lily, hello and welcome. There used to be another poster here by the name of New Lily – who passed away , so i was a bit shocked to see your screen name. If you get some odd responses that is why.
It is good that you notice that you feel abused with contact. As you have been reading the blog, you know that most often we advocate no contact as an important part of healing. Do you have children together? Is there any reason that you have to have contact with him?
Have you blocked all phone and electronic access he has to you? Does he know where you live? Do you have the means to move if necessary?
I don’t know the circumstances of his crimes and incarceration – and there are other people on lf who are more qualified to speak to this than i am, but i will say, they can amazingly get away with all kinds of crap BECAUSE they are spaths. but it doesn’t mean that he will in this situation. i think you need more information about what is going on with him – and NOT from him. Are there ways of finding out?
i would suggest you begin to put together a plan to get away in case he does get out. People here will help with ideas. So post some more, and ask for help. You might want to consider changing your screen name (easy to do) because it is going to shock people every time they see it for the first time.
welcome, and keep reading and posting.
best,
one step
New Lily, ditto to what one/joy just wrote…
and I’m glad you have reached out and posted.
Has he threated to harm you? Is he incarcerated
due to violent acts against others?
There is one person he can’t charm anymore… and that’s you!
Dear New Lily,
Yes, I too was surprised to see your name, but the blogger who had that name is passed away now, and she was well loved on this blog and by those of us who knew her outside the blog.
I have a son in prison who is a psychopath and I am scared to death of him as well…If you can get away from him I suggest you do. Move, but do your best not to leave a paper trail….no utilities in your name in your new place….a PO box for an address in a city near where you actually live not in the one you really live in. Live with some friends or relatives if you can for a while (hope he doesn’t know them) and hopefully he will move on to a new victim and forget about you.
If you are really heavily in danger, go to a shelter….
California is also a very victim friendly state and will actually help you change your name legally if you are being persued by a stalker.
There are several good books about how to hide from stalkers, and lots of good information here on this blog. Good luck, keep reading and TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF FIRST! God bless.
Hi New Lily,
the person whom we used to call Lily was actually “A New Lily” but pretty close. We loved her dearly.
Welcome. Perhaps you could tell us more details and some posters here might have advice.
Really interesting article, thank you! I can’t tell you how frustrating it is to hear from friends or family or therapists “Oh I remember my first breakup! I was so heartbroken and sad and ate ice cream for two weeks!”
It’s not the same. They don’t understand what it’s like to want to end your own life, and feel physically too sick to even consider eating food.
Does anyone have any helpful tips for getting beyond the triggers? Every time I see something that reminds me of what the spath liked/enjoyed, it makes me get a nasty anxious feeling, like my entire chest tightens up and puts me in a bad mood. It could be something as simple as a TV show, which I all the sudden will associate with arrogance and fakeness (even if the show has NOTHING to do with those things. even if it’s a show i used to like!)
I used to be such an open-minded person, excited and ready for any new idea. Now I feel bitter and cold towards things that have absolutely no sensible reason to hate, aside from the fact that my ex liked them. When does this stop? How can it get better?
new winter, i had a very good friend, someone i like very much say to me, ‘it’s hard that you have had two bad relationships in a row’. ‘i said, i wasn’t in a bad relationship, i was targeted by a spath.’ fuuuuuuck. so, yes, i completely understand (and she is a therapist)
i have been getting neurofeedback treatment (http://www.brainandhealth.com/) for the PTSD. it has helped a lot. The other thing that has helped is time. I still get triggered association to the spath when i see things and think things. but it isn’t my ONLY thought now. i have others as well. i have been being mindful of the fact of the thoughts, and am starting to challenge the need for them to still come.
i relate to your last few lines. ‘cept i don’t hate them, I FEAR them. it takes time and sanity to un-jumble all of this, layer by layer, piece by piece it comes together.