Editor’s note: Resource Perspectives features articles written by members of Lovefraud’s Professional Resources Guide.
Sarah Strudwick, based in the UK, is author of Dark Souls—Healing and recovering from toxic relationships.
Re-traumatising and PTSD
(Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder)
By Sarah Strudwick
Sarah Strudwick profile in the Lovefraud Professional Resources Guide
Everyone always writes about the positive aspects of coming out of a relationship with a psychopathic personality. You read things about how as a result of being in such a toxic relationship, it empowers you and teaches you how to recognise and spot predators. If you have never learnt how to have boundaries in the past, you learn how to have them. You learn about healthy self-respect and self-love, and most people decide, if they have had proper counseling, that they will never come have this type of relationship again.
When it comes to future dating, if you have never been able to spot the warning signs of what could be a relationship based on power and control, you learn those, too. That way you never enter relationships that are likely to harm you again.
There are many, many positives that come out of the relationship with the narcissist or the psychopath, but what is the downside of having had a relationship with a psychopath? And do people really understand how the relationship has affected its victims?
Triggers
Few therapists really understand what goes on with a psychopathic personality and the damage they can do to their victims. Chances are, the abuser will often turn the tables on the victim and try to blame them. Sometimes they might even tell the therapist that the victim is crazy, and being such charming, convincing characters, it’s not long before the therapist is on the narcissist’s side, questioning the sanity of the victim.
Most victims of psychopathic personalities suffer from PTSD long after the event. It takes many forms, and it needs a very understanding therapist to understand exactly what is going on, and to not judge the victim for being triggered. It could be something as small as a smell that triggers them, or the fact that they bump into someone in the street who looks like their abuser. If a victim has had a history of attracting abusive types throughout his or her life, then the victim may start to develop the “girl/boy who cried wolf” syndrome, whereby if they want to tell the therapist something, they feel the therapist won’t believe them. Perhaps the therapist may appear to be disinterested in what the victim is telling them. They will say things like, “Well you should be happy, after all, think of all the positives.” “You have a nice job now, things are going good aren’t they?” “Think how lucky you are to be rid of (fill in the blank).”
A small trigger like the above is fairly easy for the victim to deal with. But what happens if something more serious happens within a few years of leaving a psychopath? Say, for example, you are put in a situation where you meet another psychopath who threatens your safety. This is challenging enough for anyone who has never even been in relationship with one, but its even more challenging when you have already had a relationship with one. Victims are often left hypervigilant, and know exactly how to spot abusers far better than they did before. So when another abusers slips through their radar, the victims will immediately blame themselves, and say things like, “Why didn’t I spot them?” “Why didn’t I see it coming?”
Why? Because the person doing it is a psychopath, and they can trick and con anyone. Even with the best tools, experts get conned by these people day in day out.  My friend is an “expert” on psychopathic personalities, and yet she still got caught out again by these insidious individuals. The therapist, on the other hand, may just pooh pooh it, and think it’s just another trigger.
My friend’s experience
Most recently a friend contacted me who was unfortunate to have had a run-in with another psychopath after her relationship with the previous psychopath had ended. It had been more than two years, so she was already well on her way to being completely healed.
What happened was pretty disgusting and would have been enough to upset any normally stable person, but this particular situation sent my friend into a tailspin. The therapist, not recognising that she had PTSD from her previous encounter that was re-triggered by this new event with a different psychopathic person, decided to prescribe her antidepressants. As a result of her interactions with the therapist, when she eventually went back for counseling she decided to tell the therapist she was okay and that nothing was wrong.
Nothing could be further from the truth. But what happens is that victims may start to feel like there is no point in even telling their therapist anything, because they just don’t get it. The therapist may put the victims reaction down to being “hypersensitive” or “reactionary.”
To change or not to change
I have been in a similar situation myself and it puts the target in a difficult situation. They don’t want to go and see another therapist, because the new therapist will ask why the victim has left the previous therapist. If they do find someone else it, then means churning everything all over again from the past that isn’t necessary, and that the victim doesn’t particularly want to talk about, thus reinforcing any old traumas that may well have been dealt with. The therapist may blame it on the victim’s old pattern, and not even understand that this is a “brand new trauma” with a “brand new psychopath,” complicated by the fact that they are also dealing with re-traumatising and probably a bit of PTSD thrown in for good measure.
(Notice I use the term target, as pyschopaths will target both people who have been victims of psychopaths and those who have never had the misfortune of meeting them.)
Options
As a result, the target feels helpless and victimised again, and although, like any normal person, they may wish to seek help because of their previous experiences, they are left with a couple of options.
1) Sharing their experiences with people who have been through the same, i.e., other victims/targets. This can be okay, but sometimes this can prolong the healing, especially if they go on forums where the victims actually enjoy being stuck in victim mode and then they have to churn up all the old stuff again, which they don’t want to do.
2) Sharing their experiences with friends and family, most of whom do not understand at all and really don’t want to hear it all again, least of all that the victim may have met another psycho.
3) Internalising it and trying to figure out for themselves why they are being re-traumatised again, and dealing with it the best way they can.
The third option is okay IF they have done enough healing and had a good therapist in the first place. But what if the therapy they got in the first place wasn’t enough? The victim is back to square one, and may have to start their healing all over again.
Getting it
My hope is that one day, therapists really start to understand what it feels like to be in a relationship with a psychopath, and not just to lecture their clients about what victims should and shouldn’t do. Most therapists may have had a few run-ins with the odd narcissist, which although unpleasant enough in itself, compared to the psychopath is pretty easy to spot and a walk in the park to some degree. However few, if any, therapists have ever had to deal with a true psychopathic malignant narcissist.
Having had more than a few run-ins with psychopaths, when I wrote Dark Souls it took me many months after thinking I was completely healed to realise that PTSD was what was keeping me stuck, and not that I was some kind of psycho attractor. A colleague finally reminded me that the only types of people who are likely to read a book like mine are those who have been victims, or those who are psychopaths thinking they are buying a book that will teach some new tricks. Sadly for them, my book is to empower victims of psychopaths, not the other way around.
The general public is not aware of psychopathic behaviour. Very few therapists, on the other hand, understand psychopathic behaviour at all ,unless they have worked directly with them, or been on the receiving end of one of their scams.
There is no quick fix when it comes to getting over a psychopath and you will only heal as quickly as you allow yourself to. The good news is that therapy works for neurotics who have been victimised by these people, so by seeking therapy you are on the first step to recovery. My advice to anyone seeking help, if they have been with someone they know to be a psychopath, is to make sure you seek someone that understands their disordered personalities and has dealt with victims of psychopaths, sociopaths or narcissists, or you could be in for a long bumpy ride.
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You know what my spath used to do? I would be in a dead sleep and he’d whisper in my ear, “I hate you, you fuckin bitch,” or “drop dead & go to hell” then I’d wake up startled and say “where you talking to me?” “Did you just say something?”
He say “oh no honey, you were having a nightmare go back to bed, daddy’s home & I’ll protect you.”
For a couple years I had flashbacks in my head and it would play back like a black & white TV set. Then after I married my current husband & had 2 kids I was fine for several years. My husband knows what I went through with the spath. Now I’m having nightmares that the spath is trying to come back into my life. I haven’t thought of him in years.
I hope he’s not trying to come back into my head. Some of them have psychic powers and can do amazing things that a lot of normal people could never comprehend. My was an energy vampire & had psionic gifts.
joanie – i have had to lock some people out of my head. took me years to realize i could do that rather easily. i have told people to ‘use the phone’ when they were trying to tap me. tell him: ‘ do not contact me’. and whenever you think of him – tell him to ‘get lost ‘and go about your business. ignore him.
alternately – i think that when we are safer and can handle deeper healing that things will sometimes come up, so we can deal with them – like getting rid of a deeper level of poison.
I also think that when we broke up my head didn’t process my emotions. It was like I went about my business. I was busy with my corporate executive job & I had 2 kids to support from a prior marriage. I grieved somewhat when it was over but I also tried to bury it & put it out of my head. I didn’t have a therapist.
There was no lovefraud to vent or discuss with others what I had been through. I tried to discuss it with family. They would say: “thank God the jerk is out of your life & thank God you didn’t have kids with him. Now put him out of your head. Which I did. I would never contact him, nor do I ever want him in my life again. If anything ever happened to my husband I was even thinking to get a legal name change so I couldn’t be found. I plan on leaving the state I’m in during my retirement years. But me & my husband have decided on this together years ago. But with the internet now it’s very easy to find someone & you can even do background checks on people to find out where they are. Years ago people could hide everything, past marriages, whereabouts, etc. Not now.
I think I’ll be able to put it away where it belongs in the crypt
as someone above said but I believe I’m going through emotions I didn’t allow myself to process years ago.
Joanie
(hugs)
I think you’re right, the emotions have to be processed.
Isn’t this the strangest thing? Who knew that there could be a species of animal on the earth that is driven by emotions and gets stuck if the emotions don’t have the correct outlet. And BTW that species is us. It seems to make no sense in the darwinian, survival of the fittest, model.
My own emotions with my parents didn’t get processed and I ended up with a MEGA-UBER-spath because of it. So I can totally relate to what you are saying.
I’m glad you are here, getting better and healing.
My mother or should I say the women in my family never warned me of spath men because they never experienced it with the exception of my aunt. See the above. She married a spath when she was a young girl & he had deserted her. My mother, & my aunts never spoke of him. I didn’t even know he existed until he came back into my aunt’s life in her senior years. Like myself, my aunt had moved on and remarried & she buried the memories of the spath in the recesses of her mind.
One of my daughters has been happily married for years but my youngest is 23. I always tell her stay away from lady killers. Men who can’t stay with one woman. Playboys.
I also tell her spaths can be very tricky & you don’t know you got one till it’s too late. I tell her better yet bring the guys home & let me give them the once over. I even tell her make sure your involved in a relationship a while before you consent to marriage. LOL! I would be so broken-hearted if my daughter unknowingly fell victim to a spath. I can only imagine what the poor woman who fell victim to my ex went through after me. Him not telling her he was married and her folks shelling out money for a lavish wedding not knowing what they were getting themselves into.
I never contacted her & I won’t because I want to keep it that way but I found out quite a bit from other people years after we separated. I don’t even ask others about him because I don’t want to give him the idea I’m curious about him. I still run into some of our past friends but I never mention him & they know it’s a taboo subject with me.
I’m having a lot of PTSD this morning from the sexual assault and I can’t stop crying.
OMG, Joanie123!
Your aunt is me!
I can see this exact thing happening to me.
My ex never lets anyone go. He will call people he has harmed horribly and act as if nothing has happened.
And the funny thing of it all is that most of these people will talk to him…he is that good at conning them into thinking that it wasn’t that bad or that he has changed. Or whatever the bait is he offers.
Anyway, most folks will talk to him and leave it at that.
I wish I could be like that and maybe in time I will be.
But I have no doubt he will consider me in his life forever.
But for now, I see myself in your aunt’s story. I can see my ex circling back around in my life and coming to a point in his own where he will need me. I will probably step up to help just as your aunt did.
The recurring thought I have is that he will be shot and paralyzed…a VERY common occurrence on the streets of Philly, especially for someone with a trail of people he has harmed….who settle grudges with bullets.
Once bed-bound, he will need someone to care for him.
And I see in my head that that person will be me!
I have these senses often in my life. And no matter how it happens, they often turn out to be true.
Geez…what a bitch slap that would be!
Dear Trimama,
What you are talking about is a “self-fulfilling prophecy” things coming true like that…”he will get hurt and need someone to care for him and it will be me.”
IF YOU BELIEVE THAT WILL COME TRUE, IT WILL COME TRUE….but ONLY BECAUSE you believe it. If you did not believe it, it will not come true.
SO change what you believe.
If you have these feelings/thoughts STOP yourself and say, “I will NOT be the one to sacrifice my life to care for him, HE IS NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY OR OBLIGATION.” Say it over and over and over until you really believe it.
I am my egg donor’s only child….I would have taken care of her, she is 82 now, and has a live in caregiver, and I would have been her live in caregiver (for free) I did live in caregiving for her and my step dad for 18 months—but when she started devaluing and discarding me because I wouldn’t be her slave, and I objected to her funding my psychopathic murdering son who tried to have me killed, she discarded me in favor of my P-DIL and the Trojan horse ex-convict my son sent to kill me…..well, when they couldn’t kill me (I ran and hid) they turned on her stole $24,000 from my egg donor and tried to kill my DIL’s husband, my son C….because the two of them were having an affair and he caught them…fortunately they went to prison and didn’t kill him, but the thing is, because she discarded me, canceled my power of attorney, and abused me I AM NO LONGER UNDER ANY OBLIGATION TO CARE FOR MY EGG DONOR in her “golden” years…she has money to pay for a paid care giver or a nursing home and even if she didn’t, it is on HER HEAD NOW. I am no longer under obligation to be her slave and I feel no love or responsibility to care for someone who only abused me. Lied to me. Helped those who tried to kill me. Discarded me. Devalued me. Sorry charlie! No can do! She’s on her own now. She picked the wrong horse in that race and her’s fell down and threw the jockey. Can’t change her bet now. Just too bad.
YOU can choose to let the “prophesy” come true, or you can choose to get him out of your life and your head. YOUR CHOICE. your life.