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Questions to ask yourself when you want to go after a sociopath
By Fred Dunsing, Attorney at Law
Fred Dunsing profile in the Lovefraud Professional Resources Guide
I’m not a psychologist or a psychiatrist or a counselor. I’m a lawyer. Therefore, I’m wholly unqualified to write about sociopaths and the specifics of their mental health disorder.
I do, however, understand the definition of sociopath and generally understand what constitutes sociopathic behavior. I have seen many of these individuals during my years in practice as a family law attorney, and I can say that most of the sociopaths I have come in contact with have been within the context of fraudulent relationships. Most of these individuals have been men (although I must admit that I represent mainly women in my practice).
These individuals have been textbook cases. Men who look for recently single and/or otherwise vulnerable women that have what they need – usually money, credit, sex, or the ability to provide them with children. Generally, their whole lives are lies. Their education, military service, jobs, assets, friends, and even marital status are fabricated.
What has struck me in these cases is that these individuals often share other characteristics. They are often controlling. They are usually supreme narcissists. They have such an inflated and unrealistic view of their own intelligence and abilities that they think they are smarter than everyone else – police, lawyers, judges, and especially the women they victimize. This attitude is always their downfall.
Of the cases I have taken to trial involving these personality types, these individuals have not only always lost, but have always lost in a big way. They lose because of their utterly unjustified opinion of themselves, and of their abilities to con other people. They lose when they finally pick the wrong person who won’t just go away. Someone finally takes them “to the mat” all the way through the legal process. In the context of outright fraud or theft, that may mean the police and the local district attorney. In the context of a child custody or divorce case, that may mean taking it all the way through a civil trial.
These people are predators, but in their minds, they’ve done nothing wrong. They don’t believe a case will ever go to trial because they will outsmart or frustrate any court or lawyer and at the very least, they will convince the victim to drop the case – it’s just another con to them.
But the end of the road for these people is usually when they victimize a strong or determined person. The cases that typically are the most successful are those that involve women who were willing work countless hours to research and document the lies and the damage long before going to see a lawyer. It becomes a mission with them. And even after a lawyer explains the weaknesses of the legal system, these victims all have a common characteristic – they are not going to be victimized and they going to make sure that the sociopath never does it again to anyone else.
Now, this is often easier said than done. In most cases, it is expensive. The cost of the necessary discovery and litigation can be incredibly high. Moreover, the impact on the victim’s personal life during the period of litigation can be devastating.
In my experience, a person who is contemplating taking a sociopath “to the mat” needs to answer the following questions: 1) Do I have the financial resources to pursue this course of action? 2) Am I willing to put my family through the process? 3) What are my goals? Am I seeking some measure of justice? Am I doing this for my family? Am I doing this to teach the sociopath a lesson? Am I doing this for myself?
There is an old adage that most everyone has heard, “you can spell principle two ways – with an ”˜al’ and with an ”˜le.'” It’s OK to spell it with an “le.” You are entitled to seek justice. You are entitled to stand on your principles. You just have to understand that in our legal system, it usually costs you money (principal spelled with an “al”). You also have to understand that in some instances, judgments against sociopaths may not worth the paper they are written on – particularly if the assets taken have already been squandered and the damage has already been done. You can’t collect on judgments if you can’t find the assets to execute on.
It is, however, an entirely a different situation when the stakes are not just missing property or ruined credit, but instead are whether helpless children will be exposed to a sociopath or even worse, raised by one.
Dear Conomo,
Get the book by Dr. Eric Berne, “Games People Play” and it is a cute, short and easy read,, but gives some insight into “GAMES” LIKE “Alcoholic” and What you our I might call co-dependence and enabling. Transactional analysis is actually an easy way to look at what is going on in a “transaction” between two or more people and takes into consideration the “pay off”
Also information on the DRAMA TRIANGLE, the RESCUER, the PERSECUTOR, and the VICTIM—and the fact that the positions CHANGE like “ring around the rosie” in dysfunctional relationships. The ONLY way to “win” and have a healthy jrelationship is to be NEITHER A PERSECUTOR, RESCUER OR VICTIM. Games are always “covert” and have an “agenda” and if you know you are playing one it is not a game anyy longer, but is a MANIPULATION. Too many times we play “games” with the Psychopaths and they MANIPULATE US. They are more aware of what is going on with them and the relationship than WE ARE—so they get the better pay off and we get to be victimized because we are not as aware of their agenda as they are.
Well, I’m tired of playing the games, so I don’t wanna play any more, I’m going to pick up my ball and go home! They can play without me! NO CONTACT=NO GAMES=PEACE OF MIND!
Ya Oxy…I thought I learned that keeping the ball rolling made me the “superior” one. Cause I was still TRYING IN EARNEST.
Now I am embedding in my mind, I don’t have to throw the ball back! At All.
oXY I have 4 books to read NOW!! I took some advice and started reading “the sociapath next door”. So far it is not what I think I need.
I just can’t buy anymore books. The purchases I made are enough for now.
The Betrayal Bond is calling to me.
Off base or topic…but conomo represents a few thoughts for me–con no more– Jeronomo!!!
Dear conomo,
I get books off of Amazon for 1 cent plus $3.99 shipping right to my door! CHEAPPPPPPP!!!! Keep on reading though, read through every article here in LF archives! GReat stuff. Keep on learning!
Hello Lovefraud commentators,
I have a dilemma and think this story might be the best spot to obtain your insights/experiences/suggestions.
Over the past year I have been collecting information, facts, evidence etc. My psychopath is about to be exposed publicly in the media. His life will be ruined. He will have to uproot and move very shortly and start again somewhere else. I am very proud of what I have achieved but now that I’m facing vindication I’m becoming … well, scared. I definitely ‘took him to the mat’.
In the past he has not been overtly violent. If the right buttons where pushed I could see him lashing out in frustration and attempts to control. This news story will push hit buttons. Big time. His M.O. before was sneaky slippery subterfuge – whispering, planting ideas in peoples heads, backstabbing type manoeuvres.
He will know beyond a doubt that I am involved.
He knows where I live, who my friends and family are, everything. We live in the same small town.
I can leave town for a week and stay with friends but that’s about it. I am planning on leaving this town shortly but that is not on the immediate horizon.
What can I expect? How can I protect myself? What do I need to know? Honestly I don’t even know the questions to ask.
Thank you in advance.
Harold,
I applaud your courage to confront and expose this person, though I don’t know what he did. I hope that you can find ways to stay calm and neutral within yourself, and not show fear to this s/p. I believe if you had information to expose him in the media, you have facts on your side. You did not do anything wrong.
I can’t be of any more help, other than wish you good luck in staying grounded and self confident about your motives. It was a courageious thing to do.
harold – first of all, good for you! i am about to do the same myself – anonymously, but the spath will probably know.
are there other people who are involved in this outing of the spath? do your family and friends know what he has done? do they respond well to you about it? or do they roll their eyes?
you need to get together and talk about how you will support one another and what you can do to make one another safer.
you’ll want to do 2 things – limit any access possible, and document all attempts at contact. that being said, DON’T communicate with him under any circumstances.
do you have a cam corder?
areas to consider: access to you via phone, home security, reputation in the community.
make sure he cannot contact you – change phone numbers or block his numbers, change email addresses, etc.
make sure your window and door locks operate, and replace outside lights, etc.
re: community friends – they often try to smear the folks who out them. make sure you have your friends on your side. i don’t know the particulars, but know that it might get hot in a smaller town. a lot depends on his rep. to date. if people know already that he’s ‘off’ , it will help.
taking off for a week might be a very good idea.
best of luck – and i am sure others will have lots of info. for you also.
and be prepared for some unresolved angst to come up.
It happens
Additional info…
He will be ruined, financially and professionally. His reputation will be in tatters with his ‘friends’ and family. I am so happy with anticipation of his unmasking that I can barely think straight, let alone stop smiling! I’ve been reading this site for months and fully appreciate how unusual my situation is. It’s a ‘perfect storm’ if you will.
I am unsure if anyone will take him in and support him for any length of time. He’s a smooth character but this will be a scandal for sure.
How will he react? Will he:
-slink off to another city? country (he has relatives overseas)
-try and bluff his way out of it (impossible as these are all -verifiable indisputable facts)
-attack the media company that will be airing his laundry
-sue me
-follow me / track me for the rest of my life
-lose interest once he has a new target/victim
-menace me
-attack me
-kill me
-does the psychopath need to vent their anger or what…?
-how do they behave when caught – I need to know to protect myself and the others who have worked on this.
It’s a given he’ll discredit me where he can – due to circumstances that is not a big issue for me.
When the story hits, I’ll send it to Donna to publish is she wants to. Until it does, I can’t give out too many details, obviously.
Thanks guys – you’ve been an inspiration!