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Questions to ask yourself when you want to go after a sociopath
By Fred Dunsing, Attorney at Law
Fred Dunsing profile in the Lovefraud Professional Resources Guide
I’m not a psychologist or a psychiatrist or a counselor. I’m a lawyer. Therefore, I’m wholly unqualified to write about sociopaths and the specifics of their mental health disorder.
I do, however, understand the definition of sociopath and generally understand what constitutes sociopathic behavior. I have seen many of these individuals during my years in practice as a family law attorney, and I can say that most of the sociopaths I have come in contact with have been within the context of fraudulent relationships. Most of these individuals have been men (although I must admit that I represent mainly women in my practice).
These individuals have been textbook cases. Men who look for recently single and/or otherwise vulnerable women that have what they need – usually money, credit, sex, or the ability to provide them with children. Generally, their whole lives are lies. Their education, military service, jobs, assets, friends, and even marital status are fabricated.
What has struck me in these cases is that these individuals often share other characteristics. They are often controlling. They are usually supreme narcissists. They have such an inflated and unrealistic view of their own intelligence and abilities that they think they are smarter than everyone else – police, lawyers, judges, and especially the women they victimize. This attitude is always their downfall.
Of the cases I have taken to trial involving these personality types, these individuals have not only always lost, but have always lost in a big way. They lose because of their utterly unjustified opinion of themselves, and of their abilities to con other people. They lose when they finally pick the wrong person who won’t just go away. Someone finally takes them “to the mat” all the way through the legal process. In the context of outright fraud or theft, that may mean the police and the local district attorney. In the context of a child custody or divorce case, that may mean taking it all the way through a civil trial.
These people are predators, but in their minds, they’ve done nothing wrong. They don’t believe a case will ever go to trial because they will outsmart or frustrate any court or lawyer and at the very least, they will convince the victim to drop the case – it’s just another con to them.
But the end of the road for these people is usually when they victimize a strong or determined person. The cases that typically are the most successful are those that involve women who were willing work countless hours to research and document the lies and the damage long before going to see a lawyer. It becomes a mission with them. And even after a lawyer explains the weaknesses of the legal system, these victims all have a common characteristic – they are not going to be victimized and they going to make sure that the sociopath never does it again to anyone else.
Now, this is often easier said than done. In most cases, it is expensive. The cost of the necessary discovery and litigation can be incredibly high. Moreover, the impact on the victim’s personal life during the period of litigation can be devastating.
In my experience, a person who is contemplating taking a sociopath “to the mat” needs to answer the following questions: 1) Do I have the financial resources to pursue this course of action? 2) Am I willing to put my family through the process? 3) What are my goals? Am I seeking some measure of justice? Am I doing this for my family? Am I doing this to teach the sociopath a lesson? Am I doing this for myself?
There is an old adage that most everyone has heard, “you can spell principle two ways – with an ”˜al’ and with an ”˜le.'” It’s OK to spell it with an “le.” You are entitled to seek justice. You are entitled to stand on your principles. You just have to understand that in our legal system, it usually costs you money (principal spelled with an “al”). You also have to understand that in some instances, judgments against sociopaths may not worth the paper they are written on – particularly if the assets taken have already been squandered and the damage has already been done. You can’t collect on judgments if you can’t find the assets to execute on.
It is, however, an entirely a different situation when the stakes are not just missing property or ruined credit, but instead are whether helpless children will be exposed to a sociopath or even worse, raised by one.
Harold – three clusters:A,B,C
http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec07/ch105/ch105a.html
Cluster B: Dramatic or Erratic Behavior
Histrionic (Hysterical) Personality: People with a histrionic personality conspicuously seek attention, are dramatic and excessively emotional, and are overly concerned with appearance. Their lively, expressive manner results in easily established but often superficial and transient relationships. Their expression of emotions often seems exaggerated, childish, and contrived to evoke sympathy or attention (often erotic or sexual) from others.
People with a histrionic personality are prone to sexually provocative behavior or to sexualizing nonsexual relationships. However, they may not really want a sexual relationship; rather, their seductive behavior often masks their wish to be dependent and protected. Some people with a histrionic personality also are hypochondriacal and exaggerate their physical problems to get the attention they need.
Narcissistic Personality: People with a narcissistic personality have a sense of superiority, a need for admiration, and a lack of empathy. They have an exaggerated belief in their own value or importance, which is what therapists call grandiosity. They may be extremely sensitive to failure, defeat, or criticism. When confronted by a failure to fulfill their high opinion of themselves, they can easily become enraged or severely depressed. Because they believe themselves to be superior in their relationships with other people, they expect to be admired and often suspect that others envy them. They believe they are entitled to having their needs met without waiting, so they exploit others, whose needs or beliefs they deem to be less important. Their behavior is usually offensive to others, who view them as being self-centered, arrogant, or selfish. This personality disorder typically occurs in high achievers, although it may also occur in people with few achievements.
Antisocial Personality: People with an antisocial personality (previously called psychopathic or sociopathic personality), most of whom are male, show callous disregard for the rights and feelings of others. Dishonesty and deceit permeate their relationships. They exploit others for material gain or personal gratification (unlike narcissistic people, who exploit others because they think their superiority justifies it).
Characteristically, people with an antisocial personality act out their conflicts impulsively and irresponsibly. They tolerate frustration poorly, and sometimes they are hostile or violent. Often they do not anticipate the negative consequences of their antisocial behaviors and, despite the problems or harm they cause others, do not feel remorse or guilt. Rather, they glibly rationalize their behavior or blame it on others. Frustration and punishment do not motivate them to modify their behaviors or improve their judgment and foresight but, rather, usually confirm their harshly unsentimental view of the world.
People with an antisocial personality are prone to alcoholism, drug addiction, sexual deviation, promiscuity, and imprisonment. They are likely to fail at their jobs and move from one area to another. They often have a family history of antisocial behavior, substance abuse, divorce, and physical abuse. As children, many were emotionally neglected and physically abused. People with an antisocial personality have a shorter life expectancy than the general population. The disorder tends to diminish or stabilize with age.
Borderline Personality: People with a borderline personality, most of whom are women, are unstable in their self-image, moods, behavior, and interpersonal relationships. Their thought processes are more disturbed than those of people with an antisocial personality, and their aggression is more often turned against the self. They are angrier, more impulsive, and more confused about their identity than are people with a histrionic personality. Borderline personality becomes evident in early adulthood but becomes less common in older age groups.
People with a borderline personality often report being neglected or abused as children. Consequently, they feel empty, angry, and deserving of nurturing. They have far more dramatic and intense interpersonal relationships than people with cluster A personality disorders. When they fear being abandoned by a caring person, they tend to express inappropriate and intense anger. People with a borderline personality tend to see events and relationships as black or white, good or evil, but never neutral.
When people with a borderline personality feel abandoned and alone, they may wonder whether they actually exist (that is, they do not feel real). They can become desperately impulsive, engaging in reckless promiscuity , substance abuse, or self-mutilation. At times they are so out of touch with reality that they have brief episodes of psychotic thinking, paranoia, and hallucinations.
People with a borderline personality commonly visit primary care doctors. Borderline personality is also the most common personality disorder treated by therapists, because people with the disorder relentlessly seek someone to care for them. However, after repeated crises, vague unfounded complaints, and failures to comply with therapeutic recommendations, caretakers—including doctors—often become very frustrated with them and view them erroneously as people who prefer complaining to helping themselves.
Good luck with the outing. charges, too! Awesome!
oh my – whats normal? who’s normal? physcology overload?
hi hens. my name is one step and i am not normal.
i am not however, a f*cked up cluster b.
way shorter, but perhaps not a s imformative. 😉
hahahaha….I was looking at the Merke link you posted…and laughted……
I think most would qualify for a cluster c after being involved with a cluster B!
🙂
Hens…..trust yourself…..that’s normal!
i know eb – i was reading through it going, uh huh…..
am researching info on PTSD on line tonight. the father out i am from being involved with the spath, the more i see it functioning in me.
have found some interesting stuff about the hippocampus, and effects of long term/ repeated trauma, when one is held in ‘captivity’ – which i think would probably apply to many here. which led me t think of stockholm syndrome – which i will research also.
it REALLY pisses me off that the spath USED ALL OF THESE THINGS AS STUFF THAT HER SWEET BOY CHARACTER WAS EXPERIENCING. What a fucking N!
She did this sort of stuff a lot. one of her dupes has a great running list of crap she has pulled. I’ve added some funny entries myself.
what a f*cking crazy bitch.
Court update…
With Soc #2 & 3….TOMORROW am!
Not super ‘excited’ about it…..don’t think they’ll show up…..but hope they do……either way…..it’d behoove them to show…..
Clincher…..they have another ‘victims’ hearing tomorrow too….small claims….’slam dunk’ case!
Clincher……if they don’t show up….I’ll ask the judge for the ‘next step’….issue the warrants…..with bail set in the amount of my judgement.
This judge is WELL aware of these two…..and the sheriffs have been in touch with judge…..
Since she’s got warrants for grand theft….don’t think she’ll come, so it’ll just add on the warrants…..
Him….well he’s so cocky and hateful towards this bitch….(MOI) that he MIGHT just show……
Last contact was New years eve…he called me and .threatened to ‘see me in court’ if I didn’t stop trying to collect the debt and contacting his peeps….(oh, he aint’ seen nothing yet!)…..
Then, I had him served (for this hearing) while incarcerated a few weeks ago……he’s sure it was me that tracked his ass down…..
So part of me could see him making up this high falutant story about me….and coming to court tomorrow…..
If he did show up….it would prevent another warrant…..and only ‘loss’ would be the judgement he’s going to get from the other victim….regardless if he shows up or not.
His ‘pride’ could bring him…..or keep him away……
BUT…..also, if they do show up……she’s gonna get arrested for the grand theft warrant…..
My, my……what a tangled web we weave……
I’ll keep you posted.
hi onestep – I am prolly a peanut cluster..
One:
We’ve had discussions here about Stockholm S……
Can’t tell ya where…..
But yeah……totally can apply to a S victim.
Look at Jaycee Dugard…..Kidnapped for 18 years>>>>>>
Explain that…..ya know, she wasn’t’ chained (physically)…..her emotional ‘chains’ were what kept her there.
So sad!!!
what page is that on hens……
miss erin – i do trust myself and my decisions – i have awareness and set boundaries and look over my shoulder and keep my bat by the front door, have i become jaded and reclusive? – prolly..