As I work with partners and other victims of sociopaths, I see regularly the persistence of certain myths about these destructive individuals.
These myths can retard the process by which partners fully recognize the sociopath for who he is. They can protect him by supporting his “mask” or, at the very least, supporting the “rationalizations” his partners and victims sometimes use to “cut him the slack” he surely doesn’t deserve.
For instance, commonly I hear the position, “Well, he’s not always like this. He doesn’t always act like this.” This supports the notion that sociopaths are continuously flaunting their disorder. But this just isn’t the case.
To begin with, we know that many sociopaths are very skilled at “masking” their particular psychopathology. So it’s perfectly “normal” for them to appear, well, generally “normal.” Yet I can’t tell you how many people I work with who want desperately to see the sociopath’s seeming capacity to behave normally as “contra-indicative” of his sociopathy.
But let’s remember that even hardcore alcoholics aren’t drinking 24/7. The worst domestic abusers aren’t abusing 24/7. There are few individuals who are making 24/7 blatant displays of their psychopathology. Everyone goes “underground” for periods of time with the more florid symptoms of their disturbances, during which it’s tempting to wish, to believe, that perhaps the “underground individual” is the “real individual.”
And so the sociopath will not continually be making a display of his personality disturbance. He is more likely to “expose” himself from time to time, if not regularly. Finally, it is much more the capacity, than frequency, with which he can be so baldly, blithely transgressive of others’ boundaries that characterizes the essence of his disorder. In a word, he will not always be “acting sociopathic.”
There is also the somewhat persisting notion that sociopaths are violent, whereas many aren’t. True, they are always “violent” insofar as, inevitably, they will violate others’ dignity, but many sociopaths aren’t physically violent, and others aren’t even necessarily blatantly emotionally abusive.
Many sociopaths are just inherently dishonest, deceptive individuals who can lie through their teeth without compunction as they scheme to take what they want from others. I’ve discussed this before—the essence of the sociopath’s orientation as lying in the bizarre, creepy comfort he feels taking what he wants from others, however unentitled he is to it, and with shocking heedlessness of the damage his “taking” will cause those whom he’s transgressing.
So don’t be fooled, necessarily, by the absence of blatant displays of violence, or even conventional exhibitions of emotional abusiveness, although sociopaths are often highly prone to exhibiting these and other forms of abuse. But not all do, and certainly not all the time, facts which in no way disqualify their sociopathy.
I sometimes see still, and quite often, an individual’s difficulty reconciling her partner’s high intellectual capacity with his sociopathy. Although it’s a fallacy that most sociopaths are especially bright, or brighter than non-sociopaths, yet many find it almost inconceivable that their “bright,” even intellectually “brilliant” partners can, in fact, be truly sociopathic.
Yet we know that sociopathy isn’t an “intellectual disorder.”
We know, in fact, that to be a diagnosed sociopath the intellect must really be somewhat established, for we would suspect that an intellectually deficient individual might plausibly explain his antisocial behaviors on his intellectual deficiencies. Sociopaths, then, must be intellectually sound to be considered sociopaths.
Yet the prevailing myth goes something like this: if one is intelligent, as the sociopath may be, then he ought to be intelligent enough to realize that his sociopathy is outrageous and unacceptable; and thus, rationally speaking, he should want (and be willing) to retire his sociopathic shenanigans.
The danger here, which I see often, is that partners of sociopaths hold to the prayer that, in the end, their partners will, in fact, be “smart” enough to see how “stupidly” and destructively they are acting. Their intellects, the non-sociopathic partner desperately hopes, will (and should) eventually supercede their sociopathy. Not going to happen. Ever.
I see another prevailing myth that takes the form of this ongoing bafflement and protest from the sociopath’s partner: “It makes no sense. His behavior makes no sense. He can be so delightful and reasonable one day, and then there’s this ”˜other side’ to him.”
The idea here relates to the first myth: if he can be normal sometimes, he should be capable of being “normal” all the time. But it’s the “it makes no sense” reaction that dangerously keeps so many partners tethered to their sociopathic partners.
Because it really does “make sense;” it just doesn’t “make the sense” you want it to make. It makes sense because this is what sociopaths are. This is what they do. This is how they act. This is how they think. You want to believe otherwise. You want their aberrant behaviors and attitudes explained in such a way that it would “make so much sense” that YOU could personally relate to it.
But it will NEVER “make sense” on this level. You are not a sociopath. And so it will never “make sense” on the level you want it to. But you must stop insisting it make sense on this level, or you risk using this as a rationalization to stay with the sociopath until it “makes sense.”
I stress: everything your sociopathic partner does makes absolute sense, but only when you are willing to recognize he’s a sociopath.
It only fails to “make sense” when you fight what he is, when you resist calling him what he is—a sociopath.
More to come soon on this, and other, subjects.
(This article is copyrighted © 2012 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of male gender pronouns is strictly for convenience’s sake and not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the attitudes and behaviors discussed.)
Dear Friends
Thanks so much for all your kind words – means so much!
There is so much I could share about yesterday, it is hard to know where to begin as I learnt a lot and a lot of sharing may be helpful also to others. But I have a pretty bad headache after yesterday so may keep this brief and post more later.
But I didn’t want another day to go by without thanking you all!
First thing to say is with this being the only day available for mediation and so close to trial there would be have been no time to seek other legal advice after discovering the extent and sheer greed of my lawyer. He told me last minute to make this so of course. Given this situ I had two choices – walk away totally from the whole thing meaning I would get no money from the spath and maybe have GL (Greedy Lawyer) hounding me for money I don’t have but not have to take any more shit OR attend and attempt to negotiate with both GL and spath sister via GL. I chose the latter.
In brief, this is how it went:
I could see from the start that GL was unprepared and knew little about the case, I could tell he liked to wing it due to a combo of laziness and arrogance. He and the mediator both wanted and expected to meet with ES (Evil Sis) and her legal team and ours and give our Opening Statements in short order.
I have GL and the mediator a boundary. I said we needed one hour. They demurred. I insisted. The hour was vital as I wanted and needed to point out to GL stuff he should have been aware of and wasn’t. This was my most important hour of the day in terms of what it took out of me as I had to keep a clear head after two days of no sleep and gently guide him without pissing him of, he is used to giving direction and not taking it. He took the direction!
Going into the meeting with the spath and her team was terrifying, but worse in the imaging than the reality. The hardest was the beginning as she appeared to be greeting me warmly as if she was still caring even tho I knew it was a total lie it still got me off-guard and mad me feel sad – just for one minute – than it passed, the trauma bond remained severed.
GL fumbled part of his opening statement due to be illl-prepared but amazingly he not only got better and better but when it came to ES brutal barrister, she was not that good. She lacked confidence and was all over the place. GL was much stronger. She did tell a lot of lies on ES behalf which of course made me furious. She seemed to genuinely belief in ES mask of martyrdom. Fascinating!
Here is the thing – I had presumed I would be up against spath x 3 but actually from what I saw her legal team are more minions.
When we withdrew after opening statements, based also on the absurdly low amount her team have charged, GL correctly said he thinks they feel sorry for her and so are helping her virtually for nothing, this is astonishing as we are talking about a senior partner in a high-ranking firm and one of the top and most brutal briefs in the UK. Yet they are putty in ES hands. Astonishing. Of course it is me who should have the cheaper bill as I have had shitty and over-priced (grossly) services from junior people and she had all this top private service. The ways in which spaths reverse reality!
I tell you her brief was nervous on her behalf. She was shaking. During her statement she said how hurt her client had been by me and put her arm around her! It was weird, creepy, inappopriate.
After this ES launched an extraordinary speech, quite unrequested by anyone in the room, aimed squarely at GL in which she attempted to seduce him – my lawyer! – into believing in her side of the story. She wrung her hands, gazed at him with her big brown eyes and told him how everything she had done had always been for me! There were lots of other lies, specific ones, etc and I could not help tutting and rolling my eyes which I quite enjoyed doing tbh, as I have never been able to show a negative emotion to her before without being absolutely hammered.
When she got into some really heavy emotional shit about realising when I asked her to sell the house that she “had lost everything, that her life was over, that only that day she had been holding some of our dead mother’s clothes in her hand.”
I just couldn’t bear it any more.. I interjected that she had chosen to “lose” me, that she had been hurting me for years and that both whilst mum was still alive and since I had asked her multiple times to come to therapy with me to heal our relationship and she had not wanted to know.
I spoke with strength and was articulate. It felt very good. GL motioned at me to say no more but that was all I needed to say and of course ES interjected – she gave a vile comtemptuous laugh and repated the word “therapy” ..yeah I think I need some therapy right now. ” (the same response I got whenever I mentioned it. ) What is staggering is that noone seemed to see her aggression, it was so palpable, but even my partner did not see the contempt as aggressive, but contempt IS agressive! It is passive-agressive and I think a lot of people don’t see that.
I am going to post this and then another message in case my PC goes down or something!
OK so the mediator sensibly suggested that just the lawyers meet from now on. Great!
Then began an 11 hour day.
With GL, i have to say from then on he handled the mediation with absolute aplomb. He took control, made them do all the running, gave nothing away as to my position and every time they suggested a figure told them to go away and do some more thinking. Not good enough! Fabulous.
Around this, the mediator kept popping in although I knew that my sister would dominate him and his time in an attempt to get him on side too… I would say of the other 10 hours he spent 8 with her. I pointed this out to GL but he was indifferent, he didn’t have a psych. need to get the mediator to believe in my story over hers, he only cared about the legal strengths and his money which was the right approach. Whilst i was pissed that yet another person was more sympathetic to her, this did not affect his view on the legal positions, and therefore was not a legal worry for me. Let her have his approval, I just want some money!
This too felt good – no, I am not an attention-seeking manipulator. What of it???
Whilst each time ES offered GL more, he started to talk more to me about extracting what he could from me.
I have already said he deliberately did not give me notice he was seeking a lot more money AND he said that whilst I was free of course to go away that day and seek advice, it would mean not doing a deal with ES that day and risking the deal as he would only strike a deal with her if I first struck one with him. So again I had two choices, go away and risk the deal and negotiate harder with GL after seeking advice or deal based on giving him a lot more money but do a deal that day. And negotiate with him on the day. i chose the latter.
Long story short – really he only deserved 10-20% of my money. His starting postion was two thirds to him. !! We parried throughout the day and settled at a 50/50 split. And we did a deal with ES! Fourth offer was accepted. Of course GL made me sign an agreement as to what I would give him before the agreement with ES..that doc took three to four hours to negotiate over and this was the most stressful aspect as deals can fall down on minor points.
What I got from ES is 40% equity down from the 50% I am entitled to of which I ended up with 20% after paying GL. Not a great improvement on the 12.5% she offered me at the outset..but horrifc tho the last few years have been I learnt a lot and have got more than originally and I know with spath opponents and GL’s you can end up with less. It was as good as I could get.
Of course you will say she is yet to pay me and I know this may happen – the agreement gives me quite a lot of protection but I can also see where problems may arise. Only when my cheque has cleared in the agreed 6-9 months time will I breath a sigh of relief.
Also her actions may yet take the money off me and worse as she has threatened to report me to certain authorities and this could mean imprisonment/ my money from her snatched if proved tho she has no proof (she could just get me investigated) because of stuff I had to do to survive as a result of her abuse. I didn’t hurt anyone of course. That would be a good revenge for her. Her friend has done the same thing but that is different of course!.
Also she could just pay a couple of grand to get someone to push me under a bus but I think she would rather keep me alive and suffering if she can!
I estimate that to get my money- if I get it! And get out of the woods will take about three years. Must pray each day and keep the strength and face whatever comes, I have got this far.
I am so so pleased about how I handled both ES and GL yesterday. Interesting thing is that the avarice and immorality of GL did go in my favour as that greed motivated him to do a fantastic job after his lazy start. A less greedy lwayer would have taken a lower percentage but got less from ES so it probably balanced out.
I really feel I learnt so much! Will go now but will talk soon – thanks so much especially for the honesty of truthspeak and the cyber hug from Ox Drover and the thought of you all there in spirit a lot meant so much …
Re the spath issues I am especially interested to see if anyone else has experience of a ruthless barrister being manipulated into working for near nothing by an extremely accomplished martyr spath!
xxxxx
Lone wolf,
There are GLs all over the place and ES as well….anytime there is a will there is someone who wants to get money out of it. Many times the GL get the family to fighting and the GLs end up with the entire thing.
So, if you got ANYTHING out of this estate then you are better off than most of the time when there is a fight over an estate.
So when the check clears just be glad that you got even a BIT….that’s just the way it goes.
Ox Drover
Oh I am glad! I thought I made that clear but I am…really really happy.! I have accepted that I got the best deal possible in all the circumstances.
It would be odd tho if I weren’t still pissed at GL – and the whole damned system! – especially given the recency of events. But it doesn’t feel as if that is holding me back.
Of course getting the check is another matter.
But it is as you say – I conducted myself well and felt good about how I was on the day. And as you say, whatever the practical outcome that feeling cannot be taken away!
So thank you again so much for what you said. I took that right in with me to the day.
xxxxx
I’m glad Lone Wolf, because I know that feeling of “being alone in this” when in fact, we are NOT ALONE…there are others everywhere who are dealing with people who are toxic. Who are greedy, and I think that the legal profession has more than its share of those GLs. LOL
There’s an old joke over here about lawyers is that “99% of the lawyers make the OTHER 1% look bad” LOL
Another one is “what do you call 1,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? A START!”
The same can be said for politics, the military, the police, and any profession which has a lot of “power.”
Yesterday my son and I observed o ne of our local’s finest (police) strutting his stuff in a store. He had on knee high high quality (and probably very expensive) motorcycle boots though he was driving a city police car, he had a shaved head and he just had that STRUT that only a cop or military guy has who gets off on POWER.
Sometimes you can actually look at these highly narcissistic and/or psychopathic creeps and peg them for what they are, other times not, and maybe I was unfairly judging this guy, but I think he’s not someone I’d want my daughter to date.
Ox Drover
Definitely spot on at the concentration of spaths and their enablers in these “power” professions.
As regards your description of that officer, with the pricey knee boots, shaved head and strutting, I had a mental picture of the cop stereotype guy from the Village People.! Remember them? LOL Prolly did not look at all that type but that was just the impression I got – if so, it would be your son you would not want him to date. 😉
XXX
I didn’t know where to post this. Has anyone really given much thought to how much danger the spaths put their family in? With all the affairs and crazy stuff they do, they don’t realize that one of the crazy mistresses could really do harm to their wives or family. They don’t think about any consequences…they just go around hurting everyone and think that they are going to get away with everything unscathed.
Louise,
Part of their sick thinking is the thrill of the sneak in my opinion. They don’t have the same level of human regard so it’s not likely they give it much thought. We sure think about the risk and that’s part of my decision for leaving. I wanted my daughter to feel safe and it had played a big roll in decisions once she came along.
If you have no children then it’s up to you and I know before I had my daughter, I was the reason I left. Self care is so important as it will help your limit of what you will tollerate be less abusive and inspire you to leave a bad situation.
I know I thought caring about myself meant “selfishness” so I had to work through that and realize self care is not the same as selfish. That was a difficult one.
You ask a great question though. Fatal attraction can happen. Yes it seems women are really picking up speed in the criminal department. I wonder if they’ve changed or they’re being identified more often. Maybe they aren’t so covert in their crappiness.
There was a woman on trial here this week finally for taking her son to Texas and she basically got away with murder I am thinking. Those women make me angry especially after dealing with family court. They need a better way to weed out bad vs. good but that’s big question even for the professionals.
Of course they DO NOT even think about the consequences to their family….because they do NOT CARE about their family, so if there is fall out that hurts their family, if they are aware of it, they do NOT CARE….at best….at worst, they ENJOY THE DUPING DELIGHT of hurting their family.
I agree that the ‘caring’ is way beyond them for their
families or the people who have cared about them the
most. They absolutely do NOT care as long as they
have this pre-determined ‘niche’ in their head they
must fill.
Yes: being selfish and taking care of yourself
ARE two different things. Entirely. That causes
a bit of cog/dis but if you see it, perhaps you can
use it as a hook to get out of the cog/dis on this.
IT IS OKAY TO BE SELFISH, just not like they are…
to the point of snuffing others out.
Yes, I do agree: part of their sickness is the thrill
of the sneak. Absolutely. It’s difficult to comprehend
that there ARE these kind of cold and cruel people in
our world but it’s absolutely true. We can’t suppose
there is good in others any more, the way we once
could. We have to be aware and armored now.
We have to keep our distance from the ugly people.
If we don’t they will batter us, use us and then throw
us away some more. I am, personally, DONE with
the crap. I just want to be alone, live alone, depend
on nobody but myself and for others to keep their
drama and craziness OUT of my life. I have enough
of MY OWN craziness. I just ‘shooed’ a very bad
attitude away from my door this evening and am
I ever glad I did. Talk about setting boundaries!!!!
Boundaries are the hardest thing to set and the
hardest to enforce if you are a ‘nice’ person.
So, I decided it’s okay if I am ‘not so nice’
anymore. If that’s what it takes to set those
boundaries!