In 2002, Time Magazine named Eliot Spitzer, when he was New York State Attorney General, “Crusader of the Year,” due to his relentless pursuit of corporate crime. He went after the giants of Wall Street, extracting large fines for illegal and unethical behavior.
That’s why his very public downfall has drawn so much interest. And that’s why, now he’s resigned as governor of New York in disgrace, the stories of his aggressiveness, his bullying, and his apparent belief that the rules did not apply to him, are so widespread.
When I first heard that Spitzer was implicated in a prostitution ring, I figured that if anyone had the dirt, it would be the New York Post. How right I was. Frederic U. Dicker, the state editor for the Post, wrote about Spitzer in an article entitled, Bully gets his comeuppance. Here’s how it started:
“A disgraced Gov. Spitzer has been publicly and privately described for more than a year by New York’s top political figures as a ruthless, sanctimonious, amoral man whose righteous public persona was regularly contradicted by the realities of how he conducted his political life.”
Whoa!
But it got better. Eliot Spitzer described himself as a “f***ing steamroller” to Assembly Minority Leader James Tedisco. Dicker wrote that Tedesco—a muscular, one-time star college athlete—confided to an associate, “This guy scares me.”
The New York State Senate majority leader, Joseph Bruno, who had been targeted by Spitzer, was quoted as saying, “There’s something wrong with Spitzer, something wrong in his head.” Bruno also said, according to Dicker, “he’s a liar, he’s a hypocrite and he cannot ever be trusted.”
Then Dicker wrote, “Even friends described Spitzer as a man whose mood can swing in seconds, as a once pleasant cast undergoes a frightening Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde-like transformation after a perceived personal slight or policy disagreement.”
This was beginning to sound like all of the stories told on Lovefraud. Eliot Spitzer was beginning to sound like a sociopath.
Accusing the titans
Spitzer made his name prosecuting corruption on Wall Street. But as I continued to research Spitzer, I found a telling incident. In April, 2005, Eliot Spitzer went on ABC-TV’s Sunday morning news show and accused Maurice “Hank” Greenberg, the former chairman of AIG, an insurance giant, of misleading the public about the company’s dealings. “The evidence is overwhelming that these transactions were created for the purpose of deceiving the market. We call that fraud,” Spitzer said. “It is deceptive. It is wrong. It is illegal.”
Shortly after that, John C. Whitehead, the former chairman of Goldman Sachs, wrote an op/ed piece for the Wall Street Journal entitled Mr. Spitzer has gone too far.
“Something has gone seriously awry when a state attorney general can go on television and charge one of America’s best CEOs and most generous philanthropists with fraud before any charges have been brought, before the possible defendant has even had a chance to know what he personally is alleged to have done, and while the investigation is still under way,” he wrote. Whitehead accused Spitzer of damaging Greenberg’s reputation.
After reading the op-ed piece, Eliot Spitzer phoned John Whitehead. Whitehead was so shocked by what Spitzer said that he wrote it down: “Mr. Whitehead, it’s now a war between us and you’ve fired the first shot,” Spitzer said, according to Whitehead. “I will be coming after you. You will pay the price. This is only the beginning and you will pay dearly for what you have done. You will wish you had never written that letter.”
Whitehead was astounded. “No one had ever talked to me like that before,” he said. “It was a little scary.”
After his very public statements on television, Spitzer never brought criminal charges against Hank Greenberg.
What was he thinking?
When news of Spitzer and the prostitution scandal broke, the question all the pundits were asking was, why would Spitzer do such a thing? What was he thinking?
The Associated Press put out an article that asked exactly that question entitled, Why do smart people do dumb things?
A variety of psychologists and political analysts speculated: Does risky behavior precede the powerful job? Or does something about being in power cause the behavior?</p >
“There’s the psychology of the exception,” said Leon Hoffman, former chairman of the American Psychoanalytic Association’s public information committee. “People in power sometimes feel they can do things that us, mere mortals, are forbidden to do. There’s a sense, as with adolescents, that ‘I won’t get caught.'”
The consensus in the article seemed to be that power corrupts. No one mentioned that the corrupt seek power, especially when they have a personality disorder.
Talking heads on Larry King
Just to see what else people were saying about Spitzer, I watched Larry King Live last night—something I don’t usually do. His guests included New York State Senator Joseph Bruno, Dina Matos McGreevey (wife of the New Jersey governor who also resigned in disgrace over a sex scandal), Dr. Drew Pinsky, a cop who busted prostitution rings, a TV newscaster, and a former sex worker.
I found the comments of Dr. Drew, as he is know, most interesting. Dr. Drew, who is an internist specializing in addiction medicine, hosts a radio talk show called Loveline, and is the host of Celebrity Rehab on VH1. Explaining how people are able to live double lives, hiding unbelievable things from the people closest to them, Dr. Drew said:
“What I see— and I think is the case here with Governor Spitzer—they tend to have difficulty experiencing other people’s feelings. They tend to be very aggressive and sometimes even ruthless, as he was in his case. And they really are out for their own sake.
“And when they get the power that they’re looking for, oftentimes they sort of feel special and excepted from the kinds of things that they’re expecting of everybody else and they minimize it, decide that it’s okay for them, and they just sort of rationalize it and off they go.”
Okay, he didn’t use the term sociopath, or psychopath, but that seemed to me to be what he was describing.
Then Larry King asked Dr. Drew, “What is the governor going through?”
“You know what, the guys that perpetrate things like this, the men oftentimes feel a deep sense of shame,” Dr. Drew answered. “And it is frightening to them to get anywhere near shame. And so they seem to us to be somewhat Teflon, like they’re skating past it.”
I wasn’t buying that one, at least in Spitzer’s case, but the show continued. Larry King asked Dina Matos McGreevey if she thought her husband, Jim McGreevey, loved her.
“No, I don’t think that he loved me. I think he married me for political expediency,” Matos said. “He wanted to be the governor and he believed that he needed a family in order to do that.”
“I’m not sure that’s true,” Dr. Drew replied. “Dina, you’re describing sexual addiction, sexual compulsion there. Those guys do love people to the best that they’re able.”
I’ve written about the McGreevey case before. In my opinion, Jim McGreevey is a sociopath. So I think Matos was right and Dr. Drew was wrong—Jim McGreevey never loved his wife.
After that, Larry King asked Dr. Drew, “Does the governor need help?”
“I think so,” Dr. Drew replied. “And that’s one of the things that concerns me. I don’t see the kind of contrition that I see from ”¦ someone that would really reach out and be willing to change. I just don’t see it.”
“But he needs help?” King repeated.
“In my opinion, all the things we have talked about tonight have treatment,” Dr. Drew said. “They work. I treat people like this all the time. They get a lot better.”
I started yelling at the television.
Psychopathic qualities
So did anyone get it? Did anyone think that Eliot Spitzer might have a personality disorder?
Yes— Frederic U. Dicker of the New York Post.
After he wrote the article I referenced above, Dicker was interviewed by Matt Lauer on the Today Show. Lauer asked him to comment on the strong feelings people had about Eliot Spitzer.
“There is sense on the part of a number of people, you have to put it psychological terms, of a psychopathic quality,” Dicker said. “He was a guy who couldn’t connect with people emotionally. He would say one thing to you, and a minute later, he would say just the opposite to someone else. He didn’t show emotion in dealing with people, he never had a personal connection, which is so vital in politics.”
So why did the reporter get it right when the medical professionals got it wrong? Quite simply, the reporter knew Eliot Spitzer, knew his personality and knew what he had done. The medical professionals were talking in generalities.
The key to identifying a sociopath, or psychopath, is in the person’s actual behavior. When you know what to look for, the behavioral clues are easy to spot.
Ariadne:
That’s part of why I cannot abide with all the talking heads jumping on an issue…particularly when it’s not something they’ve been personally exposed to. Yes, I think Spitzer is an N or P based on my own (obviously limited and personal) experiences with them.
Really love the new topic about sexuality types and how they fit in to the equation. Indiscriminate sex, or sex with strangers, for pay or for free, always, always, always struck me as personally distasteful. But it seems almost a hobby with N’s and Ps. Maybe they feel it is the easiest, quickest way to avoid any kind of real intimacy…and that’s why he didn’t have an affair (which would be dramatic, emotional, potentially really dangerous to him internally) and chose what would be dramatic and really dangerous to him professionally?
The mind boggles. I spent much of last night trying to catch-up on this story, glean both sides of insight into Spitzer’s character, decide what I really thought. And that was all I came away with: he risked – and lost – everything to procure non-intimate forms of physical intimacy. Now that’s disordered.
I’m new here. 25 year marriage to what I’ve decided was a BPD woman. Last 10 years were hell. Still have a 12 year old daughter I see almost daily or I’d be a thousand miles away. I was D&D’d, then divorced when I found out she was meeting a married co-worker in his pickup truck at the park before coming home. Two years later (rumination, etc), with the help of a down-to-earth therapist and blogs like this, the light bulb switched on and I finally figured it out. I enjoy the peace now. Enough about me…
Last night (Thursday, March 13th) on Fox News with Britt Hume, I heard Charles Krauthammer, Washington Post columnist, hit the nail on the head. He talked about Eliot Spitzer, Bill Clinton, and narcissism. I think he also said the P word. I didn’t have to scream at the TV. Of course, the other “panelists” looked mystified.
This morning, I watched Spitzer’s resignation video a few times. An actor on a stage. It was all about him, with what appeared to be his tortured wife beside him. At times I think she was looking at him in disbelief. No catch in his voice. Body language like he was giving a campaign speech. The eyes were the worst in the mask of his face. Creeped me out!
I hope his wife and daughters get through this. Sorry, I can’t work up much sympathy for him. He is what he is and there is no cure.
Welcome, Jim from Indiana,
I didn’t see that or hear them mention Bill Clinton. I have thought for many years that he was at LEAST an N (I live in Arkansas and have met the man a time or two but do not “know” him) and more likely, a mid-level P. I do know the husband of one of the women he allegedly raped (and in this case, she says beat her up when she resisted) I went to school with the woman’s husband, and was close friends with his sister. I believe this woman’s story 100%. Assuming that it and the other women are not lying, then he would be a “full blown P” in my estimation.
Hillary’s “reaction” to his being “outed” and other stories I have heard second hand, and my general experience with Ps at all levels, leads me to believe that Hillary is also a P. Her blaming all their “troubles” on a “vast right-wing conspiracy” made me shake my head in disbelief that she thought anyone would buy that! LOL
All Ps are Ns, but not all Ns are Ps, so I guess you could say it was a matter of motive and degree. Anything that helps educate the public and the press to the N and P words is good as far as I am concerned. My belief is that your average Jane and Joe American think the only Ps in the world are serial killers, and couldn’t believe that the man next door who beats his wife is a Psychopath. They may not like him, they may think what he does is wrong, or that he needs therapy to help him, but they just don’t have a concept that psychopaths are “everyday folks” just like the rest of us, except they don’t have a conscience and there is NO cure.
Glad you are doing well Jim. Good for you.
Donna,
Outstanding recap of the Spitzer debacle. I had been following it all very closely when I posted on Dr. Steve’s prior No Apology thread. I hate to admit I not only yelled at the tv, but had shoe in hand, position assumed, ready to let fly at both O’Reilly and Dr. Drew. AlohaTraveler counts to ten when necessary, so that’s what I did too and then put my shoe back on my foot.
TryingToRecover, you’ll love this. O’Reilly in his written column yesterday struck again. “If you watch cable tv news, you will hear the braying pack talk about Spitzer’s arrogance, his “I’m above it all” mentality. But if you examine the facts, this shallow analysis doesn’t wash.”
It too gets better, Mr. O’Reilly has coined a new diagnosis called, The Belushi Syndrome. “No, what’s in play here is what I call the “Belishi Syndrome.” That’s when a famous person who has money and success subconsciously tries to destroy himself. You see it all the time-movie stars, athletes, and politicians doing incredibly stupid stuff.”
He does make a couple accurate observations. “Spitzer is a completely different animal.” Too bad he has no clue what that animal is. “(A self-destructive, self-loathing personality will find a way to blow everything up, and it doesn’t matter what kind of career the person has. We all know people like this.) Stay away from them.” This scholarly advice is what is being promoted from the most “widely watched” cable news channel.
Politicians run our country, the media report on it, and they shape our world at large. Last week marked my first anniversary of “no contact” and on exactly “the” day I received and read, Good Morning Texas in a status message from “Him.” LilOrphan stated on a prior thread, “Why can’t people just tell the truth . . .” I often wonder the very same. I did respond with a quote, “But above all things truth is the victor” then I signed out and went on about my day. I smiled, then thanked God for Lovefraud and all of its contributors.
Benz
I am so glad that “DOCTOR” O’Reilly has come up with a new “diagnosis.” How profound. How inovative….how ARROGANT. How IGNORANT.
Congratulations on your one year anniversary of freedom Benz.
I have had O’Reilly mentally set to “auto-ignore” ever since Shawn Hornbeck was rescued and O’Reilly claimed the kid didn’t go for help because he liked being with his captor more than his parents. He’s an ignorant blowhard with entirely too much visibility.
I sometimes wonder if the “news” or “talk” media actually hires these blowhards sort of like the “wrestling” has “good guys” and “bad guys” playing a pre-programmed script, so that people tune in to “boo” the “bad guy”?
How on God’s green earth can someone so ignorant and abrasive have a “discussion”(?) or “news”(?) program–????
What about that creep on Radio/cable TV “in the big Cowboy hat” (I refuse to say his name) that got fired for the racial slur against the volleyball players—-talk about your ignorant Narcissists!
But Jerry Springer has a “show” so I guess there is no level below which the “entertainment” industry will not go in order to get people to “tune in”—which is one reason I canceled my cable service, get my weather and most of my news off the internet and ignore the rest. Can’t do much about any of it any way so no reason to throw another shoe at the TV set or grind the caps off my teeth, or stay in a “tizzy” all the time about “man’s inhumanity to man”
I sometimes wish there was a desert island I could afford to buy and just get away from it all, but with my “luck” I would be invaded by fire ants! LOL
I LOVE Jerry Springer….
Whenever I am feeling down and depressed about the way the xs touched my life, I watch a little Jerry. Then I realize I am nothing like the people on the show- and then I feel a little better.
I agree with you OxD, there is alot of garbage available on tv and despite how the show is marketed, it is sometimes difficult to really tell which shows are scripted and which are “real.” We watch alot of movies at our house, I have had enough reality. 😉
Well, Glinda, I guess there is a “redeeming social value” in even the Jerry Springer show, it makes us feel better about our selves.
Some of my friends “nominated” my family story (as a joke) to be a “Jerry Springer Mini-Series” At the time things weren’t funny,but even that made me smile.
I intend my story to become a “Lifetime; Made for TV Movie.”
Without humor, my recovery would be doomed. Luckily for me, I’m a goof at heart and find something that makes me laugh every day.