Sitting with an antisocial or sociopathic client is an interesting experience—for a while, anyway, until it grows tedious”¦almost boring. There is the initial curiosity about, and fascination with, the client’s antisocial behaviors”¦their nature”¦breadth.
Perhaps there’s even a certain rubbernecking interest in the train-wreck of moral turpitude these clients present—with their staggering patterns of ethical and moral debaseness. Admittedly, it can be breathtaking, on certain levels, to behold the magnitude of their abuse of others’ boundaries and dignity, accompanied by missing feelings of accountability and remorse.
And the interest in the experience with such clients persists a bit longer when you are dealing with someone who is “intelligent.” There’s something just inherently more compelling, at least initially, about an “intelligent” sociopath who guiltlessly transgresses others in the gross, chronic way that sociopaths do, versus the less intelligent sociopath, whose intellectual limitations seem to dim, however unfairly, the spectacular nature of his violations.
But after a while, as I say, sitting with the sociopathic client, however intelligent he may even be, grows tedious. It’s not unlike the experience of discovering that someone you expected to find extremely interesting (and perhaps did, initially) is, at bottom, really a boring individual with little to say or offer. There’s something anti-climactically disappointing in the discovery of the individual’s gross limitations.
With most sociopathic personalities, in my experience, this sense of disillusionment—of of having to face the reality, ultimately, of their emotional vacuity—occurs in the work with them. As different in temperament and intelligence as they may be, ultimately sociopaths prove to be highly ungratifying clients to work with. This is because, regardless of their ability to talk the talk, they are, ultimately, unable to make themselves genuinely accountable for their actions, the fact of which, after a while, simply grows tiresome.
The sociopathic client just doesn’t feel, in a heart-felt way, so many of the things he “allegedly” is ready to own, or the reforms he is “allegedly” ready to make; and when this becomes clear—as it always does—a certain tedium, boredom enters the sessions.
This boredom, I think, arises in the recognition of the futility of making a real connection with the sociopath; also in the futility of his making any sort of real connection to the pain he’s caused others, and will continue to cause others, despite his superficial assertions of regret and remorse.
And so this is where the big yawns threaten to emerge with regularity. It’s the feeling of having your time wasted, which is exactly what the sociopath is doing. He is wasting your time, as he wastes everything from which he doesn’t derive a personally, selfishly compelling benefit.
It is that moment of untruth—that moment when it becomes clear that, no matter how verbally interesting and, perhaps, even engaging he may be, the sociopathic individual finally lacks anything substantive to say, feel, or aspire to. Lacking this substance, the possibly initially engaging experience with him yields, ultimately, to the sense of being futilely engaged with an emotional cipher.
That is, for a while his charisma, charm and engaging qualities, if they are present, may compensate for the missing underlying emotional substance. But there is a shelf-life for this compensatory entertainment before the tedium of his barren inner emotional life begins to weigh down the experience of him. There is a limit to hearing the same repetitive pronouncements of intended change, pseudo remorse and responsibility.
There is also a limit, beyond which it becomes increasingly oppressive to sit with the sociopath, who in one breath may claim responsibility for his violations of others, while in the very next withdraw his pseudo-assumption of responsibility and abruptly rationalize the very behavior that, only moments before, he seemingly repudiated?
This is the sociopath at work. Sitting with him can be an interesting experience. But as his particular, underlying emotional disability surfaces, the interest leads, surpisingly quickly, to a feeling of ennui”¦almost oppression.
(This article is copyrighted © 2011 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of male gender pronouns is for convenience’s sake only and not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the behaviors and attitudes discussed.)
Hi, One step joy!
That hole in your heart you talk about, you dont know it but it is ALREADY full of love, wisdom, compassion, energy,
Joy! {your new name!}
So, DONT look in the mirror and see a sad face, with down turned mouth,as hens suggested, stand on your head and you have a SMILE!
And remember I love you, baby!We all do,! Thank God for LF!
TOWANDA to us all, we are on our way!
{{{{HUGS!!!}}}
Your sista,
Gem XX
LL, You are NOT a failure sweet, you are moving on from victimhood to survivor of spathdom,as we ALL are!
You are doing GREAT!!!
Love and {{{HUGS!!}}
Gem.XXXXX
LL – You think Kim Cardashian is pretty? smart? and rich? gag me with a big spoon – she looks and act’s like a ho – but what do I know I am gay…..does that kind of trash make you feel less than ? –
my friend Lesson,
you said his new target was an overweight woman with a nice face and lots of money.
Irrespective how she looks and how rich she maybe, it will not be enough for him, he will get bored.
also, I know you are on a tight budget, just curious (if this is personal and you do not want to answer it is fine), do you not get child support from your ex-husband for the kids who are less than 18 years old.
don’t fret so much, we both need to breathe,
have a nice birthday for your granddaughter.
petite
Hi Katy,
I read one of your posts where you said your hubby took the OW to the same spot which you had identified as beautiful and was sacred in your memory – the swimming spot, and that the location and their reaction mattered, but, not the woman.
My jerk asked me to buy a white sleeveless T-shirt, like a white vest and said it would look very nice against my olive skin. Then he said I even had one for my wife several years ago, I was shcoked, why ask me to buy the same stuff he liked on his wife, I thought it odd, but now your post answered my query.
Also, he would say often to me – I want to go shopping for you for clothes for you (with my money) and I want to dress you up. I want you to come to USA in winter and I want to dress you up in coats, boots and shawls.
It seems to me – that the term “dress you up” would be used for a mannequin or a child would say she will “dress up” her doll, we don’t normally say that to people(humans).
your thoughts.
is my thinking right.
petite
Petite – The T Shirt thing. Same here. He booked a holiday (with my money) to a place where he’d been with his last girlfriend (200 miles away) He said we could dress up for the 60’s night. He chose to be Elvis (the King!!) Anyway when I started talking to his ex this is exactly what he did with her – even the same outfit!!
It was like he didn’t have an original idea. Same with me wanting to go to Italy, he kept banging on about Rhodes. Then I found out he’d been there too.
Same about the place he lived before coming here – wanted to go there, like I was some trophy so he could get one up on people.
They are always VERY good at spending OUR money!
Wow, what a great article! This is a good way to look at being discarded by a sociopath. They are projecting their own inner emptiness outward. They project on you that YOU are the cause of their boredom. (And of course, we all have taken it personally).
It’s great to read all the updates! Everyone is doing so well, especially you, Skyler, and one-step too! Sending big hugs to all of you, my little internet family.
I’m so glad I’m able to “change the channel” in my mind and not get caught up into Valentines Day. I can do it with Xmas, as well. I wish I didn’t have to, but it serves me well while I’m single. It’s easy to do, guys. As Oxy said, just focus on other things – things that make you happy.
I had a big breakthough with my money/poverty issue recently. I stumbled upon a herping (snake finding) trip in Costa Rica in May. It was the first thing I’ve gotten really excited about in a long, long time. I lit up like a Xmas tree when I read about it. Never mind that it’s only a week long and very expensive and goes to the same places I’ve already been to in Costa Rica. There is just something about this trip….
But, as usual, I didn’t think I could afford it, so I posted a thread on my reptile site about it asking people what they would do if they were me. Would they use their savings to go? Just the fact that I would even consider it is a big breakthough for me. As soon as I posted this, one of my good internet friends sent $500 to my Paypal account (!). This is about a third of the entire trip, including airfare. But I still didn’t want to part with the other $1000. I’ve worked so hard for my savings, and it’s my only emergency fund. I talked to a lot of friends. And then I finally decided that life is TOO short to hoard money for the rest of my life. So I decided to go. Wouldn’t you know as soon as I made the decision, money started pouring in! (I’m teary-eyed right now because this was a HUGE learning for me). I got a tax refund of $800. Then I got a new massage client who is a good tipper. Then my boss let me put in a little extra time at my other job. One thing after the other. One of my good friends told me to read the book, “Die Broke”, about living your life rather than hoarding money. I can’t wait to read it!
After I made this decision, other things started falling into place. I began a diet for good intestinal health (just because – I don’t really have any health issues). Ironically, the diet is saving me money on my grocery bills, and I started feeling great. I had been forcing myself to exercise daily for 2-3 weeks. Then FINALLY the endorphins started kicking in, and now I can’t wait to go to the gym or do Tae Bo in my living room. Every day. FINALLY, I’m starting to feel and see results. Yesterday I did 30 minutes of Tae Bo, did an hour and a half deep tissue massage (giving), then went to the gym and swam for 40 minutes. Went in the sauna for 20 minutes, and had a great conversation about meditation with the two guys in there. Ran into a friend at the gym…..it’s as if the downward spiral I always felt I’d been on is finally turning around. I’m now considering entering a national spelling bee for people 50 and older (I recently turned 50) in Cheyenne. And feeling excited about it.
Even the little things….I realized I could put some essential oild in my humidifier to make the house smell nice. These little things make me so happy. It never even occurred to me until I had the breakthrough. It’s like my creativity has been released or something.
I really wanted to share this with all of you. It all started with dealing with the money issue – that poverty mentality I had about money. It’s as though it was blocking my life and keeping me stuck. I’d complain about poverty with friends and this probably alienated them. This seemed to “unstick” a lot of other issues. I am meditating a lot and dealing with a lot of repressed grief from infancy (yes, I’m recalling my infancy!) where my mother never nurtured or held me when I needed it. I hope I can release this on my own. But if I can’t, I will not bat an eye about spending $100 to see a good energy worker to help me with it. I deserve it.
I’m so grateful that I can drop in here from time to time and see how everyone is doing. I always feel inspired by your stories. I know all of you are on a healing path, and your forward momentum will get you to a new and much better place in your lives!
Love,
Star
Thanks Candy,
you are up early.
As you know, me and the jerk are in the same medical field, we live in different continents, he is in USA and I at the other end of the globe. we met at a conference and as professional colleagues, when we went out for meals and sightseeing at the first meeting, we both paid our own share.
He did ask me at the start – how would we deal with the cost and as at that stage we were meeting as colleagues who liked each other, I thought it was fair to pay our own share.
as time went by (a total of one year and 4 meetings where I met him), at the subsequent conferences he kept to the same formula. We divided all the bills. By this time we had expressed our feelings of romantic involvement towards each other and how we were so fond and loved each other, yet, not even once, did he say – lets go for dinner tonight and it will be my treat.
Often he would say – I have found a lovely restaurant for dinner and made a booking and I would think it would follow with – “it is my treat” or after the dinner he would take the bill, just like what a gentleman would do. It did not happen.
Neither of us are broke, he is finacially sound. I do know that when guys in USA date a woman or take her out, they do pay for her at that occasion.
Sometimes, I think – he found a good catch in me ” good professional background to match his own, so he could strut me as a trophy and cover his ugly past (I have good standing in the international medical community), no worry about expenses, plus get my company – and use me as a plastic doll for his gratification, and he had nothing to lose, if at all, he gained.
we had discussed when I was smitten by him, the distance problem between us and as I cannot practice in USA, the other option was he move here.
he was recently in my country for a conference and I told him, I did not want to continue with him.
while here he met up with my Director for job prospects and followed it with a email, declaring his desire to move here next year if there was an opening. I have not bothered and did not say a word. As Oxy said that is the future and I do not have the strength to worry about it now, I have to focus on my healing for “RIGHT NOW’.
your thoughts.
other LF friends can also give advice,
petite
Damn just lost a whole post!! Arrrrrrrrrrrrh. Will try again
Hi Candy,
this has also been hapening to me, the post gets lost.
so I click “copy” and save it, until it gets posted. sometimes have to psot it 3-4 times, until it gets finally posted.
thanks, eager to hear your comments.
petite