Sitting with an antisocial or sociopathic client is an interesting experience—for a while, anyway, until it grows tedious”¦almost boring. There is the initial curiosity about, and fascination with, the client’s antisocial behaviors”¦their nature”¦breadth.
Perhaps there’s even a certain rubbernecking interest in the train-wreck of moral turpitude these clients present—with their staggering patterns of ethical and moral debaseness. Admittedly, it can be breathtaking, on certain levels, to behold the magnitude of their abuse of others’ boundaries and dignity, accompanied by missing feelings of accountability and remorse.
And the interest in the experience with such clients persists a bit longer when you are dealing with someone who is “intelligent.” There’s something just inherently more compelling, at least initially, about an “intelligent” sociopath who guiltlessly transgresses others in the gross, chronic way that sociopaths do, versus the less intelligent sociopath, whose intellectual limitations seem to dim, however unfairly, the spectacular nature of his violations.
But after a while, as I say, sitting with the sociopathic client, however intelligent he may even be, grows tedious. It’s not unlike the experience of discovering that someone you expected to find extremely interesting (and perhaps did, initially) is, at bottom, really a boring individual with little to say or offer. There’s something anti-climactically disappointing in the discovery of the individual’s gross limitations.
With most sociopathic personalities, in my experience, this sense of disillusionment—of of having to face the reality, ultimately, of their emotional vacuity—occurs in the work with them. As different in temperament and intelligence as they may be, ultimately sociopaths prove to be highly ungratifying clients to work with. This is because, regardless of their ability to talk the talk, they are, ultimately, unable to make themselves genuinely accountable for their actions, the fact of which, after a while, simply grows tiresome.
The sociopathic client just doesn’t feel, in a heart-felt way, so many of the things he “allegedly” is ready to own, or the reforms he is “allegedly” ready to make; and when this becomes clear—as it always does—a certain tedium, boredom enters the sessions.
This boredom, I think, arises in the recognition of the futility of making a real connection with the sociopath; also in the futility of his making any sort of real connection to the pain he’s caused others, and will continue to cause others, despite his superficial assertions of regret and remorse.
And so this is where the big yawns threaten to emerge with regularity. It’s the feeling of having your time wasted, which is exactly what the sociopath is doing. He is wasting your time, as he wastes everything from which he doesn’t derive a personally, selfishly compelling benefit.
It is that moment of untruth—that moment when it becomes clear that, no matter how verbally interesting and, perhaps, even engaging he may be, the sociopathic individual finally lacks anything substantive to say, feel, or aspire to. Lacking this substance, the possibly initially engaging experience with him yields, ultimately, to the sense of being futilely engaged with an emotional cipher.
That is, for a while his charisma, charm and engaging qualities, if they are present, may compensate for the missing underlying emotional substance. But there is a shelf-life for this compensatory entertainment before the tedium of his barren inner emotional life begins to weigh down the experience of him. There is a limit to hearing the same repetitive pronouncements of intended change, pseudo remorse and responsibility.
There is also a limit, beyond which it becomes increasingly oppressive to sit with the sociopath, who in one breath may claim responsibility for his violations of others, while in the very next withdraw his pseudo-assumption of responsibility and abruptly rationalize the very behavior that, only moments before, he seemingly repudiated?
This is the sociopath at work. Sitting with him can be an interesting experience. But as his particular, underlying emotional disability surfaces, the interest leads, surpisingly quickly, to a feeling of ennui”¦almost oppression.
(This article is copyrighted © 2011 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of male gender pronouns is for convenience’s sake only and not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the behaviors and attitudes discussed.)
One, Verity,
Thank you for validating my experience last night.
I didn’t send the email. I got off of here and called my “foster” parents and talked to them awhile, then I had a really good long talk with my youngest son. I read for awhile then went to bed and got some much needed rest.
I feel a lot more centered today.
Ox, I gave a lot of thought to what you said about helping others. one of the things that has been so hard for me is NOT taking care of others and taking care of me. I’m off to a good start with meds, therapy, blogging, (but need to talk more to others around me when I start to feel like I did last night).
I also need to pay attention to things that are very triggering to me. tobe’s reunion with her spath was just that for me. I need to learn how not to respond if it bothers me. Sometimes I care TOO much. I want to “save” others from themselves. Can’t do that. I still have lots of work to do on me.
Last night was a good experience, as it turns out. not that it was “FUN” to go through that, but it enlightened me as to what I need to work on. What my triggers are, that I can’t fix others situations, but that I can offer advice and then let it go. It doesn’t have to be my stuff. Ox, I agree with you about it being a distraction from my own pain, however, ironically, I was feeling ALOT of pain. After I talked to my parents and my son, I had a really good looooooooooooooooooong cry too before I started reading and fell asleep. I was on the edge of bursting into tears all day and going into fetal position. I have a tendency to stuff my feelings still.
going through this is hell in the initial stages. In thinking of this like an addiction, I’m only six weeks out total NC now. How many days does it take to deal with withdrawals? I still struggle with missing my spath, but I also understand what it would be to take him back, or to try to contact him. Verity you mentioned that it would be a form of self sabotage, and i believe you are very right about that. I do that a lot to myself with the negative messages I reiterate to myself over and over again. But I also see it as an addiction. That he would be the only one to be able to relieve it. He was my drug for a long time. When I woke up this morning, i was thinking about how I have to change the story now. And for the first time I have to change the dream. he killed the dream, so what is it that i want now to replace it? So the goal of a master’s degree went flying through my mind long term, finding a way to join this gym down the street another,but more short term….
Thanks for you support everyone.
LL
LL, what you’ve written is really great. It IS an addiction. I’m not going to tell you how long withdrawal lasted for me, because it was unbelievable. But you will make it IF you don’t contact him. Every time you are in any kind of contact it will set you back and self-sabotage is part of the addiction. We know we’re not going to get what we want from them, but they’re the ones we’ve put onto that God/Dad pedestal and so they’re the drug that gives very short term relief, if you’re lucky, but long term agony guaranteed. I thought I missed the man I knew for so long, but it wasn’t that I missed him it was that I hadn’t put what was TRULY needed into that space he was filling, and that was self-acceptance, -love, -respect, -care.
This place can be very triggering, and when I was in my anger stage I snapped and said shitty things to a couple of posters, but that was forgiven. It’s not possible to stay steady in the centre of the storm you’re going through. Not posting when you’re triggered is sometimes the best you can do. 🙂
Lots of crying, meds if you want and need them, therapy (very important!), blogging, real life friends and interaction … you’re doing just what you need. And yes, seeing a great future for yourself when you’re strong enough. It’ll come. Your post is very rewarding to read. Hugs LL.
Dear LL,
I can relate to you wanting to ‘help others” as it validates our own goodness and worthiness to be able to help someone else. However, when we are not minimally functional ourselves is NOT the time to try to help others, but to focus on ourselves.
If you had two broken legs you would not try to get out of bed and help someone else who had a broken finger fix dinner—-and right now you are “emotionally” suffering from two broken legs, so right now your ONLY CONCERN should be in how you can get your own needs for supper met, not trying to figure out how you can get out of bed to feed someone else.
Believe me, LL, I can so relate to taking all my energy and caring for others and NONE FOR MY OWN NEEDS.
NEWSFLASH: you are NOT responsible for keeping the world rotating around the sun. You ARE responsible for taking care of yourself.
Your therapist advised you to stay in the NOW–you have been given tons of advice about how to do so, but you are not practicing it. So, start PRACTICING staying in the NOW instead of giving into the panic attacks.
Panic attacks (and I have only had ONE,, but I do know how they feel) ARE CONTROLABLE by realizing 1) what they are 2) that they will pass and that 3) you are not going to die from them
They will pass UNLESS YOU “EGG THEM ON” by the “I’m gonna dieeeeeee” feelings, self talk, and self agitation. So 99% of what you need to DO you already KNOW, it is a matter of putting it into practice. You are the one who must take charge of YOU.
Think of it like going into labor and delivery—no matter how much it hurts, you have to push through the pain for it to stop. I can’t do it for you, and no one else can…you know what you have to do, how you have to do it and so get on with the process. Push, breathe, push breathe, push BREATHE!!! PUSH!!!!!!
Ox.
LOL! That’s a GREAT analogy!! I do remember what it was like to “Breathe” through my contractions.
ox, I hear what you’re saying but this also puts me into a very precarious position. I have children to feed and responsibilities to attend to them as well. Talk about a fine line!!! I have a tendency to take care of my kids before I take care of me. My son and I talked about that a lot last night. What his perspectives were. it was VERY interesting! They aren’t babies anymore, I don’t need to baby them as if they are.
Lots to think about.
LL
Eva,
“And i have had because of the stress of the last two months 3 spots in my ass. An allergic reaction to psychopaths.”
I hope you don’t mind that that makes me smile. 🙂 Since I was ‘with’ the man who brought me here I’ve felt even more grubby than my dad made me feel all those years ago and which I’ve believed until very recently. It’s knowing what I allowed myself to go through and taking on board the contempt they both showed me.
I thought I had bedbugs the other week but it was just the stray cat I allowed onto the bed because he is just so beautiful, bless him, having a few cat fleas. I discovered bedbugs aren’t about dirt anyway, but I digress. A large part of healing for me is about believing that I am not contaminated in some way by my experiences and that they weren’t about me in any way deserving it. Crazy-making stuff.
ll,
The key to short term goals is that they be achievable. Set your sights on what you can do and then up the ante a little bit.
And the wisdom of beginning with the end in mind.
You are spot on, I believe in giving birth to a new story.
BREATHE! PUSH!
Verity,
i know it sounds humoristic, that was my intention. But it’s true and they were (there are still remains of them, and i didn’t mention another one in one groin) without doubt an anti-psycho vomiting reaction 😀
I like cats too, but i have just one and she doesn’t go out because i live in a shitty flat and there’s no garden.
So no flea allergy but an anti-psychopath purge.
Silver, Part of the problem is not KNOWING what to do. lol!
My life has largely been about helping others or fixing others. When that’s not going on, I have no idea what to do.
This is very confusing for me because while in school, I was hellbent on my goals to get through. Now i”ve lost that drive too, I no longer want to do what I was doing. I have a family to support as well so, that complicates things in where I’m at. I know this is a day by day process, but there’s lots of concern for me financially right now. I want to be able to take care of my family.
LL
Ouch, Eva! Those spots sound nasty. Let’s hope they clear up soon.
I was laughing at your comment yesterday about being in the low-life stage too. You mean you think the psycho’s a low life or that you were being brought to that level yourself? I’ve been there. Nobody’s going to make you react like a fishwife quicker than one of these charming gentlemen, eh? I don’t know if you have the word fishwife there. Here’s the wikipedia entry with a portrait of me on it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishwife
Fishwife = coarse or shrewishly abusive woman.
Verity, yes, they’re finally clearing up. I’m sure it has been a physical reaction of rejection towards those low-life energies called integrated psychopaths.
😀 I know low-life is applied just in certain contexts but it’s a very expressive word i find funny.
So you’re perhaps English and fishwoman but why abusive?
Ah! What your psycho used to say. Yes, mine tried to convince me i was neurotic when i criticized his stupidities.