Sitting with an antisocial or sociopathic client is an interesting experience—for a while, anyway, until it grows tedious”¦almost boring. There is the initial curiosity about, and fascination with, the client’s antisocial behaviors”¦their nature”¦breadth.
Perhaps there’s even a certain rubbernecking interest in the train-wreck of moral turpitude these clients present—with their staggering patterns of ethical and moral debaseness. Admittedly, it can be breathtaking, on certain levels, to behold the magnitude of their abuse of others’ boundaries and dignity, accompanied by missing feelings of accountability and remorse.
And the interest in the experience with such clients persists a bit longer when you are dealing with someone who is “intelligent.” There’s something just inherently more compelling, at least initially, about an “intelligent” sociopath who guiltlessly transgresses others in the gross, chronic way that sociopaths do, versus the less intelligent sociopath, whose intellectual limitations seem to dim, however unfairly, the spectacular nature of his violations.
But after a while, as I say, sitting with the sociopathic client, however intelligent he may even be, grows tedious. It’s not unlike the experience of discovering that someone you expected to find extremely interesting (and perhaps did, initially) is, at bottom, really a boring individual with little to say or offer. There’s something anti-climactically disappointing in the discovery of the individual’s gross limitations.
With most sociopathic personalities, in my experience, this sense of disillusionment—of of having to face the reality, ultimately, of their emotional vacuity—occurs in the work with them. As different in temperament and intelligence as they may be, ultimately sociopaths prove to be highly ungratifying clients to work with. This is because, regardless of their ability to talk the talk, they are, ultimately, unable to make themselves genuinely accountable for their actions, the fact of which, after a while, simply grows tiresome.
The sociopathic client just doesn’t feel, in a heart-felt way, so many of the things he “allegedly” is ready to own, or the reforms he is “allegedly” ready to make; and when this becomes clear—as it always does—a certain tedium, boredom enters the sessions.
This boredom, I think, arises in the recognition of the futility of making a real connection with the sociopath; also in the futility of his making any sort of real connection to the pain he’s caused others, and will continue to cause others, despite his superficial assertions of regret and remorse.
And so this is where the big yawns threaten to emerge with regularity. It’s the feeling of having your time wasted, which is exactly what the sociopath is doing. He is wasting your time, as he wastes everything from which he doesn’t derive a personally, selfishly compelling benefit.
It is that moment of untruth—that moment when it becomes clear that, no matter how verbally interesting and, perhaps, even engaging he may be, the sociopathic individual finally lacks anything substantive to say, feel, or aspire to. Lacking this substance, the possibly initially engaging experience with him yields, ultimately, to the sense of being futilely engaged with an emotional cipher.
That is, for a while his charisma, charm and engaging qualities, if they are present, may compensate for the missing underlying emotional substance. But there is a shelf-life for this compensatory entertainment before the tedium of his barren inner emotional life begins to weigh down the experience of him. There is a limit to hearing the same repetitive pronouncements of intended change, pseudo remorse and responsibility.
There is also a limit, beyond which it becomes increasingly oppressive to sit with the sociopath, who in one breath may claim responsibility for his violations of others, while in the very next withdraw his pseudo-assumption of responsibility and abruptly rationalize the very behavior that, only moments before, he seemingly repudiated?
This is the sociopath at work. Sitting with him can be an interesting experience. But as his particular, underlying emotional disability surfaces, the interest leads, surpisingly quickly, to a feeling of ennui”¦almost oppression.
(This article is copyrighted © 2011 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of male gender pronouns is for convenience’s sake only and not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the behaviors and attitudes discussed.)
You’ve got it Eva. 🙂 I wouldn’t mind being called neurotic (which he did) because I can be pretty neurotic to be honest. It was being called a sociopath which ticked me off a bit, but I know it’s just what happens and I’m able to bear anything he thought about me now.
Goodnight again. Take care.
Well he tried with borderline too but even him was insecure of that statement. Lightly neurotic sure but as i have all my faculties it was me who diagnosed him, and fuck! i hallucinated because just his pic was missed in Hare’s checklist. I had no idea such a disorder existed but Hare describes so well and so simple….that had to say bye to the psycho with a big dick. The hell with the dick.
Goodnight verity. You, too, take much care of you, always!
Oh! We knew the same man! You crack me up Eva. The hell with the dick, indeed. Although I do miss the fake spam he used to send me about how much I must be missing it.
Good grief, if I’m wrong about this then I could well be insane, lol. That’s okay. If this is insane it’s fine. I feel more sane than I ever have in my whole life.
Yes, he said his previous love (conquest) was borderline. In fact, he said her MOTHER said she was borderline. I don’t think so! The one he was getting warmed up when he was seeing me ‘used’ him. Cripes. Poor man with three madwomen in a row! 😉 If it hadn’t nearly killed me it would be quite amusing. It IS amusing now, thank goodness. And now I AM going to bed before I start to enjoy this too much.
Again, these real-life examples of the sociopathic personality ring eerily true:
“It’s not unlike the experience of discovering that someone you expected to find extremely interesting (and perhaps did, initially) is, at bottom, really a boring individual with little to say or offer. There’s something anti-climactically disappointing in the discovery of the individual’s gross limitations.”
Other than travel and details of the types of places he liked to travel to, I do not remember my spath having any hobbies or interests, other than drinking.
Fate intervened, but my plan was to use my myriad of interests in hopes to spark any sense of a passionate hobby in him.
“With most sociopathic personalities, in my experience, this sense of disillusionment…”
In mirroring a comment I made, he used that exact word (disillusioned) to describe his feelings about himself.
“This boredom, I think, arises in the recognition of the futility of making a real connection with the sociopath…”
An early red flag that he even warned me of — when I told him that I felt we had a “connection” he agreed but added that he was not sure what the connection was about…
“…no matter how verbally interesting and, perhaps, even engaging he may be, the sociopathic individual finally lacks anything substantive to say, feel, or aspire to…”
In his own words from a dating profile (roughly): “You should contact me if you like what you see or have nothing to do… if you are motivated or driven, then I do not think we would be a good match.”
“…for a while his charisma, charm and engaging qualities, if they are present, may compensate for the missing underlying emotional substance…”
Charming, flattering but monotonous and cold, nothing emotional. Even when he told me how much he hated his father, it was without emotion.
Eva, I love the way you write. Oh no, can’t hate the language, it’s not its fault, hehe. I hope you do really well in your healing if I don’t post for a while. Even reading about narcissists and sociopaths gives me the heebie-jeebies now and I don’t want to be reminded. Thank goodness the blog’s here though and that there are people who are willing to stay in the fray and help people through. They save lives.
Much love.
Eva – it’s not about ‘elevation’, but eloquence. You are nothing, if not eloquent in your writing!
Your sense of humor, and ‘turn of a phrase’ are wonderful.
hahahaha one/joy, this is because i’m Spanish not new generation and i’m brute! I’m not enough politically correct. Anyway those monsters called sociopaths/psychopaths or whatever are able to provoke the most patient saint, which is not my case. I shit on them a million times. I’ll die shitting on them.
eva – 🙂
no sainthood over here either, although probably more pc having come from the north american feminist and lesbian, and anti-racism movements in the 80’s. And then there is the 10 years of Buddhism.
i swear, A LOT. i was chastised and told not to swear so much on lovefraud as it is offensive to some people. I swear a lot in my day to day life – the more pressure, the more profanity!
I work with a lot of men – very nice men, who are very ‘polite’ around women. i think they think i am a bit mas brute than is usual.
my n sire is brute also, my mother is very refined. both my sibling and i sit in the middle of that paradigm. i find i am mas y mas brute as I get older, also. The PTSD makes me more so – i get frustrated, angry and panicked very quickly…and swear to express it.
off to work now! a prayer for peace for all of us today.
😀 ok one/joy i’ll swear less
Peace and freedom for all (what those******aaaaahggg!!!!!****** want to snatch from us)