This is a very tragic story left by one of our readers:
My daughter was misdiagnosed with ADHD. Then bipolar disorder, then Oppositional Defiance Disorder. I stormed out of her psychologist office when she told me that she saw something “dark” in my child. That was when she was 7. When she was 8, her sociopathy increased and she purposely drowned my poodle. She also tried to smother my baby by my second husband. The strain of her and my carrying the baggage from my last relationship has driven he and I apart and we currently trying to file for divorce.
She steals daily, has even stolen as much as $500 from my wallet. I lock things away, and she will simply pry open the lock, break the lock or disable locked windows so she can climb in for access to everything. My son sleeps with his father at night at his own home, while I sit here at night, catching her lurking through the dark, stealing whatever she can get her hands on (i.e., money, jewelry, food, perfume). If I try to discipline her, she simply runs off and screams to the top of her lungs “don’t kill me”, which causes the neighbors to call the police. Just this morning, I discovered money missing and brand new snacks I bought last night for the baby and all of us to share GONE. Every single day she steals. I have to sleep at night and when I do, she lurks in the dark, prying open things, destroying things.
It’s like if she is alone for a moment, she does something way over the edge. Like this morning, I caught her chopping blooms from cacti I planted with a mini shovel, I mean she looked like the LAST SAMARI. I am being victimized everyday and feel like she is the hunter in my home and I am the hunted. I have arranged for an IEP at her school and it is my goal to get her placed in a facility in Utah where they house and treat child psychopaths or excuse me, Oppositional Defiant children because liberal America will not allow her to be called what she truly is until she turns 18.
The issue of likely outcome is more difficult in child psychiatry than it is in any other aspect of medicine. Think for a moment, if a child has cancer and we know that 65% of children with this cancer die, what does that tell us about our particular child? I chose the number 65% because that is the percentage of conduct disordered teens that went on to develop antisocial personality as adults in one study.
When we consider studies of conduct disorder, oppositional defiant disorder and symptoms of psychopathy in children we have to consider that most of these studies are done on a special population of children that are being treated at University based clinics. So the information about prognoses we get is likely pessimistic. Sill not even these studies show that 100% of children with these symptoms have them into mid adulthood.
I would like to tell you about three children, I watched grow up. These children show us that we have to be careful about trying to predict adult personality function on the basis of what we see in a child.
The first child is a neighbor of mine. When she was 7 she was so fearful and shy that she refused to go on play dates. I spoke to her mother about this and her mother indicated that symptoms of anxiety tended to run in their families. Well, I saw that girl again at 14 and I can tell you she is “popular” and not at all shy. I asked her mother about what happened. Her reply was, “Yeh, she grew out of it.”
The second child is a boy who was a sibling of one of my daughter’s friends. At 7 he was a mess, very impulsive and easily angered. So much so he got into trouble in religious school. At 13 this boy is controlled and polite, a fine young man.
The last child is a boy I grew up with. I was always an animal lover. This boy’s behavior disgusted me because at 7 he captured lizards, stuck sticks through their mouths and killed them. He then put his kills in the street for cars to run them over. I hated that kid! Well, he did not grow up to be a psychopath. He is a loving husband, responsible father and business owner.
Video of 7 year-old Latarian
After introducing this background, I would like you to watch the video of Latarian Milton, a 7 year old who stole his mother’s car. (This video was recommended in one of our reader’s comments and I appreciate that.)
Go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itgcNy3L_Xc This boy demonstrates for us what psychopathic personality traits look like in children. He shows no remorse and says he enjoys doing bad things. He doesn’t care about the consequences of his actions because for him the fact that he gets enjoyment justifies everything. The comments left on Youtube reveal that many people have one of two incorrect views of psychopathy in children. The first is that it can be cured by beating the child. The second is that it invariably leads to a disordered adult.
If there was only a 10 percent chance that a child’s cancer could be cured, most people would still advocate that the child get aggressive cancer treatment. The odds for disordered kids are at least that and yet many people say they should be written off and secretly believe they should either be euthanized or imprisoned for life.
What should be done to help psychopathic children?
Psychopathic children do have the same issues as psychopathic adults. Namely, their pleasure system is warped and their impulse control system is defective. The difference is that these two systems are more changeable in a child than they are in an adult.
Psychopathic children enjoy “being bad” (to quote Latarian in the video above) more than they enjoy anything else. What they need is to be taught how to enjoy loving human connections. If they can learn to enjoy loving, then they have a chance at developing a modicum of empathy and conscience. This is where our pessimistic view of psychopathic children can become a self-fulfilling prophesy. Studies show that the parents of such children often dislike them. The people who advocate writing off these kids do not help these parents. Parenting an at-risk child is the most difficult task many will ever have to face.
We have to support the parents of psychopathic children and encourage them to try to find something in the child they do like and can connect with. Psychopathic children require constant adult supervision and affectionate adult companionship.
Psychopathic children also need to be taught about the nature of impulses and morality. They need verbal lessons as well as real life lessons in the form of consequences. Studies show that when parents of psychopathic children dislike them, they often pull back and do not provide the consistent teaching of impulse control these kids need.
There is also another side to the prognosis coin. That is that many children who appear to be “normal” grow up to be psychopathic. I know this from two sources, scientific studies and people who write me. Dr. Hare has said the antisocial behavior that leads to sociopathy/psychopathy begins during childhood and adolescence. I agree with him, but the problem is that this antisocial behavior can take many forms. For example, lying, stealing and being aggressive toward a sibling are all behaviors that many sociopaths showed during childhood. Many children engage in these behaviors and so again we may consider them “normal.”
How can we prevent sociopathy in adults?
Behavioral science has revealed a great deal about what we can do to give all children the best chance. I was at a conference this week and one of the speakers noted that the State of California bases its estimate on the future need for prison space on the reading scores of children in 3rd grade! In addition to effective parenting, at-risk children need to have quality education. Right now our practice is to take troubled children and group them together for school. Not only do they all then get a substandard education, but they get to teach each other more antisocial behavior!
As a society, we are far from doing our best for psychopathic kids. Some children will develop disordered in spite of the best parenting and professional help. YOU WILL NOT KNOW IF YOUR CHILD IS IN THAT GROUP UNTIL YOU HAVE GIVEN HIM THE BEST PARENTING AND PROFESSIONAL HELP AVAILABLE. Medication may be necessary for some children. If you have done your best as parent and your child still has problems, forgive yourself. Rest assured that his problems would be much worse if you had not done your best.
I want to end with what I believe are the 10 attributes of effective parents:
Summary of Effective Parenting
- Effective parents are warm and empathetic.
- Effective parents reward good behavior.
- Effective parents establish clear rules and enforce them through limit setting.
- Effective parents model good behavior.
- Effective parents teach impulse control, respect and values.
- Effective parents surround their children with positive influences.
- Effective parents protect their children from entering into situations they won’t be able to handle.
- Effective parents teach age appropriate life skills.
- Effective parents have fun with their children.
LOL, RUNE
MY SON CARRIES A NAME THAT IN TRANSLATION MEANS “BELOVED GIFT OF GOD”. BEFORE I KNEW WHOSE GIFT THIS REALLY WAS, I NAMED HIM THAT AND I HOPE THAT GOD WILL PROTECT MY SON. BUT, SADLY, I AM NOTICING THAT HE IS REFUSING TO POTTY TRAIN. SO FAR IT’S THE FIRST SYMPTOM ALONG WITH HYPER SEXUALITY THAT IS NOT NORMAL IN 2,5 YEAR OLD. MY GOAL IS TO RAISE A RESPONSIBLE ADULT. SO, IF HE IS INCLINED TO CUT, I’D WANT HIM TO BE A SURGEON; IF HE BEGINS KILLING, I’LL SEND HIM TO THE MILITARY. MY OLDER KIDS ALREADY TELL ME THAT MY BOY ISN’T LIKE THEM AND MORE LIKE S. LOOKING BACK AT YOUR KIDS, WHAT DO YOU WISH YOU’D DONE DIFFERENTLY?
LOOKING BACK AT MY OWN CHILDHOOD, I VIVIDLY REMEMBER CATCHING BUTTERFLIES AND TEARING OFF THEIR WINGS. ONE DAY AN ADULT SAID TO ME THAT WINGS WERE LIKE MY ARMS AND ASKED ME IF I’D LIKE MINE TORN OFF. I HAD NEVER HURT ANOTHER CREATURE SINCE. DO THE KIDS OF PSYCHOPATHS LEARN THIS WAY?
Katya: I named my daughter “Beata” because she was a blessing, or she was also “blessed.”
Children try all sorts of things, and different children grow in different ways.
My “blessed” daughter gave me many heart-stopping moments, but she is also someone who cares about others.
Don’t assume the bad, just because your child is different from the others.
Many “blessings” to you, as a fellow mom, trying to do your best.
Dear Katya,
I raised a son who became a MONSTER PSYCHOPATH, so have some experiences in this situation. I saw NO problems with him at all when he was little, I had one short period of problem at age 11 and none until age 15 or so.
Little children ARE different from each otehr, and some potty train easily and some don’t. I thought I NEVER WOULD get my oldest son to potty train, and he was ADHD, but he turned out to be the GOOD one! He drove me crazy when he was little, into EVERYTHING—not mean, just “into” everything in the world, afraid of nothing, climbed and risk his neck 1000 times.
My suggestion with your son, is t o ASSUME he is going to be fine. give him LOTS OF LOVE, LOTS OF ATTENTION, consistent discipline and rewards, for doing good things.
I think many little kids are abusive to animals because they don’t know, so we have to teach them gently that other things and other people have feelings too. How else is a child to know these things?
Sometimes kids DO have an inherited TENDENCY toward lack of empathy and do choose to become cruel older kids and adults. Like dr. Leedom, I believe there is some environmental things that can be done for YOUNG children to show them love, to help them feel empathy for others, but once the person is “set in their ways” as a psychopath, once they have made that CHOICE to ENJOY hurting others, there’s not much anyone can do. Right NOW though, for you, your child is young and STILL LEARNING, so hug that kid, tell him you love him, show him empathy and do the best you can. that is all any of us as parents can do. (((hugs))))
Many times parents are overwhelmed when their child is diagnosed with oppositional defiant disorder and do not know what to do next. Using a behavior modification program may be one option.
My niece showed up on my door step one day. Her father’s girlfriend was beating her up and she left and went to stay with the girlfriend’s mother who put her out. Well, to fast forward, four years later, I’m bankrupt, physically and mentally exhausted. I got counseling for her, medication she desperately needed, got her involved in the church and even got her out of high school and into college. She believes me to be the worst person in the world. She only wants to have sex with boys and post pictures of herself on the web. She has stolen from me, had my car vandalized and sabotaged me computer. She is gone and may need somewhere to go soon. I dont want her back …ever. I love her but I cant have her with me anymore. She is capable of anything and doesnt seem to have a conscience. I would like to hear more about teens and kids who are sociopaths. My niece was diagnosed as bipolar and I believe have more than one personality based on the way she behaves. I have never experienced anything like this a sympathize with anyone going through it.
jlarue – she may not be bi polar. Often there are misdiagnoses. A lack of conscience if the hallmark of sociopathy, not of bi-polar disorder. The sense that one is dealing with someone who has more than one personality isn’t unusual when dealing with sociopaths – we call it ‘when the mask slips’, it isn’t another perosnality, just their core selves showing
All these horrible things that have happened to our neice – all of it could be lies; could be she’s just really horrid and keeps getting turfed out.
There are a number of people here who have had teenagers who are sociopaths, and i am sure most of them will respond when they see your message.
don’t let her come back and don’t have any contact with her. . . We call it ‘no contact’, and it will help you heal.
jlarue…my ex sociopathic bf had been diagnosed at the same clinic i was going to as ‘bipolar’. I have read somewhere that this is a diagnosis often given to sociopaths at first because of the so-called ‘normal’ times that go into the ‘manic’ phase…(when the mask slips). Older sociopaths aim for this diagnosis, since it shows them as ‘ill’, not just ‘evil’. Some mental health experts think that a sociopath can have dual diagnoses….including depression and anxiety as well as bipolar.
After dealing with my sociopath…I don’t believe it. They will continue to manipulate for their own gains. I would not let her back for your own sanity. Please keep in touch with us on Lovefraud. We have a wonderful group of folks here.
Dear Jlarue,
I have a son who is a psychopath, in prison for murder.
I am also a retired mental health/medical health professional. Many psychopaths ARE ALSO bi-polar, and can also be Attention Deficit & Hyper active disorder as well, or, God forbid, all three.
So your niece can be any ONE or ALL of the diagnoses and some of the behavior you describe could be attributed to any of those diagnoses. The point though, is that YOU CANNOT HELP THIS WOMAN, and she is not focused on helping herself, but apparently when she “gets into trouble” she comes to you to bail her out, but the “bailing out” never lasts too long and she’s back in trouble again soon.
NO CONTACT with her is your best option for several reasons. 1) nothing you do for her is going to benefit her in the long run and 2) contact with her and trying to fix her will only frustrate YOU.
It hurts when we have to “write off” people that we actually love, or that are members of our families, but in order to survive ourselves, sometimes it is necessary.
Read here the old articles in the archives about what is a psychopath/sociopath and educate yourself about them. God bless. KNOWLEDGE=POWER
Thank you for your comments. I welcome all. It is so hard getting folks to understand. My mother is heart broken and wants to FIX her. I have told her that we cannot fix her and she can not come back to live with us. I have learned that she may be pregnant and she is telling everyone that I kicked her out and she doesn’t have a family or home. I told her that either she be respectful at all times and take her medication, she could not come back. I am ashamed to say that I pray she doesn’t come back. I agree, I can not help her.