This is a very tragic story left by one of our readers:
My daughter was misdiagnosed with ADHD. Then bipolar disorder, then Oppositional Defiance Disorder. I stormed out of her psychologist office when she told me that she saw something “dark” in my child. That was when she was 7. When she was 8, her sociopathy increased and she purposely drowned my poodle. She also tried to smother my baby by my second husband. The strain of her and my carrying the baggage from my last relationship has driven he and I apart and we currently trying to file for divorce.
She steals daily, has even stolen as much as $500 from my wallet. I lock things away, and she will simply pry open the lock, break the lock or disable locked windows so she can climb in for access to everything. My son sleeps with his father at night at his own home, while I sit here at night, catching her lurking through the dark, stealing whatever she can get her hands on (i.e., money, jewelry, food, perfume). If I try to discipline her, she simply runs off and screams to the top of her lungs “don’t kill me”, which causes the neighbors to call the police. Just this morning, I discovered money missing and brand new snacks I bought last night for the baby and all of us to share GONE. Every single day she steals. I have to sleep at night and when I do, she lurks in the dark, prying open things, destroying things.
It’s like if she is alone for a moment, she does something way over the edge. Like this morning, I caught her chopping blooms from cacti I planted with a mini shovel, I mean she looked like the LAST SAMARI. I am being victimized everyday and feel like she is the hunter in my home and I am the hunted. I have arranged for an IEP at her school and it is my goal to get her placed in a facility in Utah where they house and treat child psychopaths or excuse me, Oppositional Defiant children because liberal America will not allow her to be called what she truly is until she turns 18.
The issue of likely outcome is more difficult in child psychiatry than it is in any other aspect of medicine. Think for a moment, if a child has cancer and we know that 65% of children with this cancer die, what does that tell us about our particular child? I chose the number 65% because that is the percentage of conduct disordered teens that went on to develop antisocial personality as adults in one study.
When we consider studies of conduct disorder, oppositional defiant disorder and symptoms of psychopathy in children we have to consider that most of these studies are done on a special population of children that are being treated at University based clinics. So the information about prognoses we get is likely pessimistic. Sill not even these studies show that 100% of children with these symptoms have them into mid adulthood.
I would like to tell you about three children, I watched grow up. These children show us that we have to be careful about trying to predict adult personality function on the basis of what we see in a child.
The first child is a neighbor of mine. When she was 7 she was so fearful and shy that she refused to go on play dates. I spoke to her mother about this and her mother indicated that symptoms of anxiety tended to run in their families. Well, I saw that girl again at 14 and I can tell you she is “popular” and not at all shy. I asked her mother about what happened. Her reply was, “Yeh, she grew out of it.”
The second child is a boy who was a sibling of one of my daughter’s friends. At 7 he was a mess, very impulsive and easily angered. So much so he got into trouble in religious school. At 13 this boy is controlled and polite, a fine young man.
The last child is a boy I grew up with. I was always an animal lover. This boy’s behavior disgusted me because at 7 he captured lizards, stuck sticks through their mouths and killed them. He then put his kills in the street for cars to run them over. I hated that kid! Well, he did not grow up to be a psychopath. He is a loving husband, responsible father and business owner.
Video of 7 year-old Latarian
After introducing this background, I would like you to watch the video of Latarian Milton, a 7 year old who stole his mother’s car. (This video was recommended in one of our reader’s comments and I appreciate that.)
Go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itgcNy3L_Xc This boy demonstrates for us what psychopathic personality traits look like in children. He shows no remorse and says he enjoys doing bad things. He doesn’t care about the consequences of his actions because for him the fact that he gets enjoyment justifies everything. The comments left on Youtube reveal that many people have one of two incorrect views of psychopathy in children. The first is that it can be cured by beating the child. The second is that it invariably leads to a disordered adult.
If there was only a 10 percent chance that a child’s cancer could be cured, most people would still advocate that the child get aggressive cancer treatment. The odds for disordered kids are at least that and yet many people say they should be written off and secretly believe they should either be euthanized or imprisoned for life.
What should be done to help psychopathic children?
Psychopathic children do have the same issues as psychopathic adults. Namely, their pleasure system is warped and their impulse control system is defective. The difference is that these two systems are more changeable in a child than they are in an adult.
Psychopathic children enjoy “being bad” (to quote Latarian in the video above) more than they enjoy anything else. What they need is to be taught how to enjoy loving human connections. If they can learn to enjoy loving, then they have a chance at developing a modicum of empathy and conscience. This is where our pessimistic view of psychopathic children can become a self-fulfilling prophesy. Studies show that the parents of such children often dislike them. The people who advocate writing off these kids do not help these parents. Parenting an at-risk child is the most difficult task many will ever have to face.
We have to support the parents of psychopathic children and encourage them to try to find something in the child they do like and can connect with. Psychopathic children require constant adult supervision and affectionate adult companionship.
Psychopathic children also need to be taught about the nature of impulses and morality. They need verbal lessons as well as real life lessons in the form of consequences. Studies show that when parents of psychopathic children dislike them, they often pull back and do not provide the consistent teaching of impulse control these kids need.
There is also another side to the prognosis coin. That is that many children who appear to be “normal” grow up to be psychopathic. I know this from two sources, scientific studies and people who write me. Dr. Hare has said the antisocial behavior that leads to sociopathy/psychopathy begins during childhood and adolescence. I agree with him, but the problem is that this antisocial behavior can take many forms. For example, lying, stealing and being aggressive toward a sibling are all behaviors that many sociopaths showed during childhood. Many children engage in these behaviors and so again we may consider them “normal.”
How can we prevent sociopathy in adults?
Behavioral science has revealed a great deal about what we can do to give all children the best chance. I was at a conference this week and one of the speakers noted that the State of California bases its estimate on the future need for prison space on the reading scores of children in 3rd grade! In addition to effective parenting, at-risk children need to have quality education. Right now our practice is to take troubled children and group them together for school. Not only do they all then get a substandard education, but they get to teach each other more antisocial behavior!
As a society, we are far from doing our best for psychopathic kids. Some children will develop disordered in spite of the best parenting and professional help. YOU WILL NOT KNOW IF YOUR CHILD IS IN THAT GROUP UNTIL YOU HAVE GIVEN HIM THE BEST PARENTING AND PROFESSIONAL HELP AVAILABLE. Medication may be necessary for some children. If you have done your best as parent and your child still has problems, forgive yourself. Rest assured that his problems would be much worse if you had not done your best.
I want to end with what I believe are the 10 attributes of effective parents:
Summary of Effective Parenting
- Effective parents are warm and empathetic.
- Effective parents reward good behavior.
- Effective parents establish clear rules and enforce them through limit setting.
- Effective parents model good behavior.
- Effective parents teach impulse control, respect and values.
- Effective parents surround their children with positive influences.
- Effective parents protect their children from entering into situations they won’t be able to handle.
- Effective parents teach age appropriate life skills.
- Effective parents have fun with their children.
Dear Jlarue,
Believe me I do not doubt that she will spread lies and say horrible things to others about you, and the thing is that there really isn’t a way to “defend yourself” without stirring up your own emotions and getting defensive and angry again about it. If you don’t even know what she said, then you won’t get upset about it. It is another part of the NO CONTACT tactic.
My egg donor spread all kinds of lies about me, that I tried to steal money from her, that I was mentally ill, and demented, and you name it….and every time I would hear these things I got FURIOUS. The people who DID BELIEVE these things about me were not people who really knew me, or were close to me, so what did I really care about what they thought, or if they believed her or not? By not even talking about her or listening to gossip what I “don’t know won’t hurt me.” I don’t get angry and stirred up all the time.
People love to gossip, you know that…but it soon blows over and they even forget about it. If they don’t, you aren’t going to convince them anyway. By not listening to gossip about her, or encouraging people to gossip about you to her, you are helping yourself to calm down and to heal.
Yes, you did sacrifice too much for her—it is called “enabling”–doing things for her that she should have done for herself. I have been totally guilty of that myself with my own children, and with others, but I am working on MYSELF and not doing that any more. Instead, I am allowing others to take responsibility for themselves. I confine my “helping” to those who are unable to help themselves, not doing for others what they should do for themselves.
Okay, so this morning My mom recieved a call from my niece’s(the sociopath) uncle. This is the same uncle that she said wiped her with anything he could when she was 8 years old. This is also the uncle she has been staying with over the holiday. Well, he wanted to know about the DC Tag program. This is as program for residence of the state. They give up to $10, 000 for out of state fees. Well, my mom told him that my niece knew all about the program and that she was not eligible because was was no longer a resident of the state. She doesn’t live here anymore and that she hasn’t heard from her since September. He said that she would have her call me. Well, she did with an attitude and I told her the same thing my mom told her uncle. Now, she wants to look for her birth certificate which she should have. I told her its not here and good bye. Please advise
She had such a nasty attitude and the nerve of her to call me for something when she has been so hostile.
jlarue,
like oxy said, “don’t let her drag you back into the drama”.
in fact tell her and anyone else who calls, exactly that. Say, “I’m not interested in drama and lies, really, it’s such a bore.”
It’s like breaking a magic spell. They know you are on to them and they are more likely to give up and find an unsuspecting victim.
That’s one thing the P’s all have in common. They look for “unsuspecting victims”, people who take their lies at face value. If they know you are wise to them, they move on, because it doesn’t work.
I am so angry. The nerve of her to even call me expecting me to do anything. Make no mistake about it, I want no parts of her.
jlarue,
I would recommend No Contact to your niece. If she calls again, simply hang up. Enough is enough. You do not have to give her the time of day. If she wants a copy of her birth certificate, she can figure out how to do that, contacting the state where she was born, and applying for the certificate, going through the appropriate state department. It’s time she thought for herself, doing what she needs to do (for herself). You can keep yourself out of her drama.
Thank you, I will do that. This year is supposed to be about no drama. I plan to keep it that way.
jlarue,
I know, I have high hopes for this year, not wanting to have them squashed by spath-drama (for all of us). Be good to yourself today.
Dear Jlarue,
I don’t understand what you mean “wiped her with anything when she was 8 years old” I am assuming you mean that he treated her poorly, but NOW she is staying with him (probably because she ran out of any other places to stay) and he is calling around trying to find some (DC tag) program what will pay college(*?) fees for her to go out of state to school somewhere besides that state.
As far as her birth certificate, she can do like anyone else who needs a copy of their birth certificate, she can order and pay for a copy from the state in which she was born.
YOu asked “please advise”
my advice for what it is worth.
!. Do NOT talk to anyone about her.
2. advise your mother to NOT talk to anyone about her.
3. When someone calls wanting to talk about her, SAY “I’m sorry, I am not interested in discussing Suzie” then HANG UP.
4. If you have anything that belongs to her, box it up and send it to the last known address you have for her (I guess in this case it would be that uncle’s)
DO NOT TALK TO HER IF SHE CALLS, IMMEDIATELY HANG UP AS SOON AS YOU HEAR HER VOICE. DON’T EVEN SAY “STOP CALLING” JUST HANG UP.
Even angry words encourage her. Good luck, be strong. IGNORE her completely. (((hugs)))
I feel as though she abandoned her stuff. The stuff I bought her. She hasnt showed any interest in it until she discovered I wasnt going to help her any longer. I don’t want her or her uncle getting anything from here. I will give it away. I dont care. It seemed like an excuse to get in my house for some reason. She’s evil.
Jlarue, if you bought the stuff and you feel that way, give it away and get it out of your house—Goodwill or the domestic shelter or whatever.
CLEAN HOUSE and remove any of her “essence” —just get it out of your house so you won’t have to think about it or her when you see it.
Oh, yes, it was an EXCUSE to get to come to your house. No doubt about that!