Sociopaths love credit cards—especially when they are in someone else’s name. Lovefraud recently received an e-mail from a woman whose daughter is married to a sociopath. “How do they do it?” she asked. “How do they get you to put credit cards in your name that they will use?”
Our daughter has now procured a card, ugh, (only found out since the billing came here) and I know this is for HIS use and he will be the one using it, burying her in debt that she will never get out of and do you think for a minute HE will pay this debt?? Ha! He does NOT have credit cards (I often wonder why)? Refuses to get one, why? But it’s okay to use hers??
I can relate to this experience, because it happened to me. One of the hallmarks of this disorder is lack of responsibility. Sociopaths do not believe in paying bills, particularly bills that they’ve convinced someone else to incur.
There was a time when my ex-husband, James Montgomery, had his own American Express card, but Amex cancelled the card and sued him for not paying his bills at least three years before I met him. After that, Montgomery learned it was much better to sweet talk women into providing him with access to their credit than to try to get his own card. So, based on what Montgomery did to me and several other women, here are observations I can make:
1. Sociopaths specifically go after people with money and/or credit. The first step, of course, is to pick the right target. If sociopaths are looking for a sugar daddy or sugar momma, they first need to make sure sugar is available.
Now, this doesn’t mean the target must have millions in accessible cash, although I do know of one case in which that was a requirement. A sociopath will target someone who has:
- a job
- access to credit
- a home, which can be tapped for a home equity loan
- retirement savings
- family members with money
My ex-husband actually ran credit reports on women he met. If sociopaths have access to credit reports, they won’t be deterred by the mere fact that pulling a credit report without the subject’s permission is illegal.
2. Sociopaths initially create an impression of substance, success and financial responsibility. When I first met my ex, he did not tell me that he was flat broke. He talked about his business successes of the past—apparently with at least some truth—and his big plans for the future.
He exuded absolute confidence in his ability to make his dreams come true, and I believed him. I thought I was becoming involved with a “mover and shaker,” a captain of industry, a master of the universe. I didn’t know he was a con artist.
3. Sociopaths quickly create bonds of trust with the target. That’s where the word “con” comes from—the sociopaths are running a con game, or confidence game, establishing confidence in the target. This can be done several ways, depending on the nature of the relationship.
Sweetheart scams are probably the easiest. The sociopath love bombs the target, with flowery language, gifts and constant attention. When the target falls for it, he or she feels both love and trust—how could you not trust someone that you love? If the two people are intimate, chemical changes in the brain make the trust bond grow even stronger. (See last week’s article, Getting over that amazing ‘chemistry.’)
Sometimes sociopaths borrow trust through association. For example, they may join a religious community, and present themselves as a solid member of the group, or even a spiritual leader. Thousands of wannabes fraudulently claim to be military heroes, and trade off the high esteem with which most people hold those who serve in the military. My ex-husband claimed that he served 35 years in the military, which made him seem honorable. He never served a day.
4. Sociopaths promise to pay, and sometimes they actually do pay, at least in the beginning. My ex-husband invited me to go with him to Australia, and then asked me to put the charges on my credit card, assuring me that he’d pay off the charges as soon as the bills came in. Some con artists pay off initial small loans, or small credit card charges, to make the targets believe they are trustworthy.
Sociopaths do not hint that they won’t pay the expenses that they convince the target to incur. They continue making promises to pay as long as targets still have money or credit available to bleed.
If sociopaths perceive that there is nothing left to take, at that point they may quit the charade and say, “F*** you, the debts are in your name, you deal with them.” Of course, by that point, the sociopaths already have their next targets lined up.
5. Sociopaths create a crisis, and need action right away. They will claim that they must answer immediately, they have to act now or the opportunity will be lost, they’re up against a deadline. Sociopaths do not want their targets to have a chance to think about whether the request makes any sense.
6. Sociopaths use the targets’ own good natures against them. If targets are generous, sociopaths will use the pity play to prey on their generosity. If targets are responsible, the sociopaths will get them to clean up the messes that they create. If targets are skilled in business, the sociopaths will enlist them to join the entrepreneurial dream, be members of the team, until they are carrying the full financial burden.
Whatever qualities and vulnerabilities target have, the sociopaths find ways to exploit them.
7. Sociopaths badger the targets into giving them what they want. My ex-husband did not come out and ask me to give him a credit card until long after we were married. Even then, I resisted for months.
But he wore me down. He said he was an entrepreneur, entrepreneurs always have terrible credit, and if I helped him, I would be helping our success. He pointed out that he needed a credit card when he travelled—conveniently neglecting to mention that his trips included seeing other women.
He explained. He nudged. He pleaded. Eventually, I just caved and made him an authorized user on one of my credit cards. When the card arrived in the mail, Montgomery acted like he received a windfall of cash. It was maxed out within a few months.
8. Sociopaths dig the targets into such deep holes that the only possible escape is through the sociopaths. Before long, my once-pristine credit was shot. I was carrying more debt than I ever had in my life. My only hope was that Montgomery would succeed with his plans, as he continued to assure me he would.
So every time Montgomery told me that he “needed” something, or “had to” travel somewhere, I approved the charges, hoping desperately that it would be the final step that would start to turn everything around. But that never happened.
9. Sociopaths know the rules. One day, as I was ranting about the oppressive credit card balances, I yelled that my husband had occurred the debts, and he had to pay them. Montgomery shockingly informed me that, since we were married, his debts were my debts. He was right.
Montgomery was also well aware of the fact that since all the credit cards were in my name, and I gave him permission to use them, I was responsible for his charges. Even when the judge in my divorce determined that my ex-husband had defrauded me, and Montgomery was responsible for the debts, the credit card companies didn’t care. They came after me.
I have a reverse sort of issue.
I seem to have been the only person he dated who had a home with equity and no other long term debt. I was a self employed single mom. I was self employed, had paid cash for my new car, totally paid off all bills as they arrived, and always paid extra principal with my monthly mortgage payment. He said that everyone else who he had dated was a struggling working girl who rented an apartment, struggled with finances, and had no children. (I later discovered that he had been seeing those others throughout the time we dated, lived together, got married and even when we went on our honeymoon!)
Three years after first meeting, we purchased a home together. At the same time, all of my income went into a “joint” account that he had set up for us. Last year, after attempting to activate a new credit card. I was told that he, not I, needed to activate the card because I was merely a signer on his account, not an owner of the “joint” account!
Since our marriage 15 years ago, I must ask him for any spending cash. Then I will be handed maybe $40.00 until I ask for more. I’ve come to realize that he can use the credit card bills to track where I have been.
For years, I have not been allowed to see an itemized cell phone bill with a calling log because the account is in his name…and he controls everything. All account information is accessible via an email account using his password. I’ve recently learned that a feature is available to track a cell phone’s whereabouts. Perhaps he’s tracking my whereabouts with my cell phone. He likely is still messing with other women and wants to keep all his calls a secret from me too.
When I speak on the house phone, he will sometimes refer to things that I spoke to friends about. My NPD also has all of our computers run on a home network that he administers. I’ve seen copies of my emails and documents on his computer (maybe s/b his CON-puter).
I’m sure this posting will be available for him to view too, but I no longer care about that.
He actually earns a good living, but he cons others into giving him what he wants and can be a real, intimidating bully. He has thrown away or destroyed many of my things. Occasionally my things will be replaced with similar items that he has purchased and now owns. Little by little, he has reduced my belongings. He periodically finds and then hides small treasures that I’ve kept for years because they hold pleasant memories for me. I’ve discovered many of these items tucked away from me like his personal souvenirs. (Why would anyone besides me want to have my childhood pet’s dog tag? To me, taking that seems very sad, sick, and totally uncaring.)
My NPD has actually purchased some expensive art equipment for me to use. However, nearly all of it was purchased in his company’s name. So, he owns (controls) nearly everything…except my thoughts.
Years ago, I contemplated a divorce and he informed me that I did not own any part of our house because there was no paper trail to show that my check had been used to pay off my half of the mortgage…so I was in default! At the time of purchase, my home had not yet sold. His (one person) company advanced the funds for purchase and secured the funds with a mortgage lien that was recorded against the property. The later receipt of my equity check did not get recorded against the mortgage. So he informed me that my $100k equity was deemed to be his to do with as he pleased, like maybe throw a huge party! (He had also removed and destroyed a file that had held all of the closing paperwork for the sale of my house.)
Sooo…the credit card issue can go both ways…to destroy another’s credit or to withhold credit (take good credit away for more control over someone).
By the way, I tend to use credit cards frugally to purchase gifts for others, buy my art supplies, and also for groceries (since I have very little cash). I rarely buy myself new clothing and own a car that is now over 17 years old.
IMconfused. He sounds like a real control freak. You had EVERYTHING and now you have NOTHING? He ‘gives’ you money like a child having pocket money! He ‘bought’ you art materials, although HE didn’t really buy them.
This has CONTROL written all over it.
So many flags going up here.
I have to ask the question……Why are you still with him?
Thanks Donna for the informative article.
You are so right on the mark. I tried to explain to someone when I was going through the withdrawal stage and the word I used was “addiction”. I was addicted. I went through all those processes so when it was over I was left with a huge hole in my life. However my psychologist told me that if he came back he would fill the hole, but fill it with more SHIT. Do I really want that in my life? Knowing what I know now, I dont!
Education is our best defence. I really believe there should be a data base for these people. They are so destructive and move one one person to another leaving behind them massed confusion. I have taken it upon myself to warn people. There is a resurgance of information about them out there and for that I am so thankful. They mess with your head leaving behind years of healing, yet they can see no harm in what they have done. Guess thats cos they dont have a conscience. Their lies are horrendous. I was told this by him.
” I tell you a lie you dont believe me, I tell you the truth you dont believe me” . That is a sociopath/psychopath talking.
Sorry I may have posted this in the wrong section. I meant to post it on the article about chemistry. However, interesting about finances. I was careful with my creditcard. I did let him use it once but he never reimbursed me, so when he left my daughter made him leave me the refrigerator. He used my car and my gasoline. There were no questions asked as he would constantly tell me that we were a great team. I dont think so. Well maybe we were, but he was in charge. The creep.
Imconfused.
I’m very worried about your situation. Don’t have much time to post but OMG GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER AND GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE!! Start getting things and returning them to the store, get cash on hand, get a lawyer, do SOMETHING. It is obvious that he targeted you because you had everything he wanted: self control. Now he has taken that away. NO MORE. EVERY MOMENT YOU ARE THERE YOU LOSE MORE. Your paychecks are HIS. Get a lawyer. you are nothing but a slave.
This is my first post – I have been reading and reading for a
long time – trying to figure all this out. Call it denial – but after this post I see things much more clearer. I divorced my ex 7 years ago after a 25 yr. relationship. Right from the beginning I knew there was something not right about him – but we all know how persistent they are. When I met him he had nothing but a bag of clothes to his name. I had a good job and was very self sufficient. About a month after we met – my only living parent died – he came on even stronger after my dad dying.
It’s funny now – but after a few events happening with him – I used to say to his face he was a con man. My gut told me something wasn’t right from the beginning but I thought I could change him. When we got married 4 years after meeting (long story how we ended up marrying after all the crap he put me through) we bought a house with my inheritance. After a credit check on him from the bank (which I worked for) it came to light he had several outstanding cheques written by him that bounced. Stupid me paid these bills to allow us to get this mortgage.
In all the years we were together I handled all the finances – as I knew he wasn’t responsible enough. As the years went on I had established our credit and was able to obtain credit cards in his name. As I quit my job to be a sahm we obtained these as him as the major cardholder. Money to him was no worry – he would have spent and spent if I didn’t have control over it. I would get them paid off – tell him not to use them – the bill would come and the argument would be on again as he had used it. It baffles me how he would think I wouldn’t notice this. He was always wanting to buy major items on credit – but it was always me who wouldn’t allow this. Right from the beginning of our relationship I never fully trusted him – he would have done to me as so many on here have had done to them – if I hadn’t been so controlling over finances (thank god I was).
A month after we separated I found out that he had a secret credit card and line of credit up to the tune of $20,000 – taken out the month he met ow. He met her Mar. 15th and moved in with her Apr. l. She owned her own place – had been married to a drug addict- divorced him and raised her two sons. He knew what he was doing – he was doing the same thing to her as he did to me. Hopefully it won’t take her 25 yrs. to figure him out.
On top of everything else I have read on here and what my ex did to me over the past 25 yrs. the light came on with this post. The devastation of deceit and lies is a process I am still processing – but with everything I read on here it validates me – I’m not crazy – I just gave my heart to a an evil person.
@skylar – OMG my 1st husband / spath was a cop, got advanced degrees, and went on to work for homeland security – he is now on his 4th wife. What are the odds? Feel free to contact me off board.
Beloved,
Welcome.
The odds are high that every single person who works for homeland security is a spath. My exP is nothing but a drug dealer child molester, and a closet bisexual who killed a guy after he convinced him to sign over a helicopter on a secret payment plan and now flies around without a license. Even does commercialhelicopter work. AND YET he had no problem convincing several homeland security dudes to stage a fake raid complete with warrant in front of stooge friend Harry, just to convince me that I should sign over the business into his name.
Further he had all the cops including the sherrif chasing me around the small town. He looks like a homeless dude with rotting teeth, but he can connive ANYONE, especially someone who is already rotten to begin with.
It is a well known FACT that spaths crave authority, but they want to manipulate and cheat with it. Normal people may seek positions of authority in order to serve, but spaths just want power. They show themselves.
sky – ‘drug dealer child molesting bisexual’.
sky ?
really?
drug dealer = bad
child molesting = bad
bisexual = bad?????
really?
on the down low=bad
liar=bad
predatory= bad
cheater=bad
deceitful=bad
but bisexual=bad????
sigh.
I wanna jump in an play. But, I got redirected by something Donna posted.
pulling a credit report without the subject’s permission is illegal.
I used to be a check authorizer for a large well-known department store chain.
My job was to either approve or deny the personal checks of shoppers.
I was told to run a credit check on people writing a large dollar amount check.
Something did not feel right about this.
I knew nothing about credit at the time. I knew little about writing checks. Yet, something seemed invasive about this.
So I never ran a credit check on anyone. I was “called on carpet” cause I wouldn’t run credit checks.
Of course I was also “called on carpet” because I wouldn’t harrass the little-old-lady who bounced a check. She called in to make payment arrangements. I was easy with her. The entire office ganged up on me. I was told I was supposed to “make sure she won’t make this mistake again”. I stood up for the little-old-lady, I said my job description is not to shake-down little-old-ladies, and I said that she would be on their doorstep the next morning. My supervisors had to have the last word and they said she won’t pay. I believe it happened exactly as I predicted cause I never heard another word about it.
I couldn’t take anymore of the stress of that job.
And, add in the garbage hours we were forced to take. I had enough.
I put in my notice after working there 9-months.
My supervisor found out I put in my notice. She called me at home to bitch me out. She yelled “Don’t bother coming back”. I asked if I was being fired. She yelled “THAT’S right Your Fired”. I said Thank You! And I went to file for unemployment.
Me and the lady worker at the unemployment office had a good laugh over it. I said the bossy bitch just had to get in the last word and I hope the company takes a hard look at her for firing someone who already put in their notice.
Then this boss gave me a bad reference. I found it out when an employer told me. I called an attorney. This attorney advised me to contact this supervisor and say I have been in contact with an attorney. And, tell I have been advised that employer can only disclose dates of employment.
So I did that
It put a stop to the blackballing. And, it didn’t cost me a dime. Most attorneys will give you a free 20 minute phone call.