By Sarah Strudwick
Sarah Strudwick, based in the UK, is author of Dark Souls—Healing and recovering from toxic relationships.
First of all I want to thank everyone who commented on the posts that I’ve written over the last couple of years. Recently I did a post on How to speed date a sociopath. Whilst I make every effort to move on with my life after the psychopath, occasionally something will come up that causes me to think “Why do they do that?”
So the topic of this post is whether or not any of you have experienced the following:
In my book Dark Souls, I wrote about an occasion where my ex moved my cash card. A week later I found it hidden behind a bottle of sauce on the top of a very tall cupboard in the kitchen. At the time it went missing, I asked my ex if he may have picked it up by mistake, because he used the same. He commented that I was forgetful, and asked me whether I’d left it in the freezer.
This was a very strange comment. Later, I found a book written by a psychopath about how to manipulate people, putting the victim off guard so they question their own sanity. One of the suggestion was to ask victims if they left something that went missing in a freezer!
Being a complete idiot at the time, I looked in there, just to check I wasn’t losing the plot or going mad.
More items not returned
I also lent my ex some books and a heart-shaped crystal. At the time he was leaving his wife. He promised to keep it safe. When I asked for it to be returned, I got the excuse that he had let his children play with it, and one of his small children managed to drop it out of a two-story building and broke it. The story was preposterous—why would he let his kids play with something he didn’t want his wife to see?
I was also in a relationship with a man call Dan. I was doing acupuncture, and he as asked me if he could borrow my acupuncture books and also a book on Taoism. He also borrowed a cassette of a local radio interview I’d done when I was 19 about backpacking in India. When the relationship ended, I asked Dan to send me back the books and the interview cassette. He still has them to this day, and refused to give a reason for keeping them. Looking back, I think it was his way of keeping a little trophy of me.
Happening again
I was prompted to write this is because straight after I ended the speed date, I noticed something strange. Every day I wear a necklace, which I made myself out of resin and crystals. You could call it my “security blanket,” because I always feel happy when I am wearing it. When I bathe or shower I take it off and leave it in the bathroom as the string is made of leather. Lurch commented on the jewelry I make as he saw the resin and paraphernalia on the worktops in my kitchen.
A day or so after getting my head of the washing machine with all the mind games he played, I suddenly realised I wasn’t wearing the necklace. I searched the flat everywhere but couldn’t find it. I soon realised that a photograph of me was missing as well. It was an old photograph of me when I was about 16, dressed in fancy dress and looking reasonably young, fit and attractive. My son had seen it a few days before and commented on how young I looked. The photograph had been next to the computer, but was gone.
I like to think of myself as a rational person and don’t jump to conclusions before pointing the finger. In fact, I searched multiple times only to find nothing. Whilst I cannot prove that anyone took it, these were not items of value like money. But they had a lot of sentimental value, much like the cassette and the specialist acupuncture books, which, incidentally are irreplaceable.
Trophies
I’ve read before that the psychopath likes to closet their victims, and I’ve heard stories about serial killers keeping “bits” of them as trophies. Whilst we expect the sociopath to steal our hearts, money and valuable possessions, the difference is that all these items are irreplaceable. Which begs the question that they will intentionally go out of their way to take such things, because they know how upset we will be.
I am still searching for these items, just in case I haven’t lost my marbles. Whilst it’s easy to let them go because they have no real value, the whole experience points to the potentially sick and twisted nature of their personalities and has “creeped” me out. Even with such a good understanding of psychopaths/ sociopaths, it’s still beyond all my capacity to understand what motivates someone to do something like this.
It’s for this reason that I shared this experience. I wonder if anyone else had experience the same kind of “creepy” behaviour.
ColoradoKathy, I decided to open and operate a nonprofit rescue several years ago. I purchased a used computer and joined the 21st century and got Internet. I will regret that decision for the rest of my life. I was a prime target because of my authenticity and unabashed honesty and integrity. My horses and business were the ultimate victims. The entire spectrum of animal welfare is infested with psychopaths. The animals suffer unimaginable and unthinkable abuses, and most are used as nothing but trophies, props, involving all manner of exploitation, abuse and evil for psychopathic agendas. This is the only place and the first time I have been able to feel safe to speak on the Internet about this experience, and I am so deeply grateful for that.
Tea Light;
I am sorry to learn that you were sexually assaulted by your x-spath. Unfortunately, now that being after the fact, without physical evidence proving an assault would be difficult. Confronting his wife with the facts of her husband may provide you some closure. However, keep in mind she is probably trauma bonded as well and in complete denial, for example like Jerry Sandusky’s wife.
His response will be to make you seem like the crazy one. In a sense, Sociopaths actually do make there victims “crazy” — in the sense that they trigger behaviors in their victims not otherwise seen, such as obsessive thinking or acting out via alcohol, drugs, sex, spending… Or all of the above.
I know. In my “craziness” caused by my x-spath, I decided I would “out do” a sociopathic gay flight attendant by travel, drink, some drugs, anonymous sex… I not only hurt myself but three others as well.
Confronting his wife may also put you at risk to further violent action on his part, stalking or him “retaliating” by seeking out your friends and telling them stories of you “craziness”.
Truthspeak:
I don’t know what to think actually. I am kind of confused by what you said and sad. The only thing I can say is that I, I, I, believe in God (when I realize everyone else does not) and I KNOW what His word says. I have always respected other beliefs and religions on here and still do so I will never say anything again about religion. I apologize for causing any hurt feelings.
I am the farthest thing away from a “manipulator” as you can get and would NEVER use God’s word to “manipulate” ANYONE. I am sorry I even had to read that, but I understand…whatever I said triggered you and I am sorry for that.
Dear Traumatized,
I am sooooo sorry you are experencing such trauma…the loss of your children, even the FEAR of losing your children must be horrendous beyond belief, and to know that the evil person is getting away with this, and ENJOYING doing it is even worse.
Keep on reading here, you are NOT alone. This is a community of people who have suffered at the hands of psychopaths in so many ways. Others here have lost children and grandchildren. It hurts. But together we can do the best we can to heal ourselves and cope with what we cannot change. God bless and keep you and your children.
Southerngirl,
Welcome to LoveFraud, and sounds like you have been through the wringer to earn your “membership” in our club. I feel for your daughter as well, I’m glad that she is in counseling and I hope hher counselor GETS IT about what her father is.
Thank you for sharing your story, too, it is a “typical” one for a psychopath, almost “text book” in fact.
I would suggest you get your daughter the book “The Sociopath next door” and also “Without Conscience” at 17 she is old enough to grasp both of these and maybe it will show her what she is dealing with and that it is NOT HER FAULT her father does not love her.
Again, welcome to our community. Our journey starts out learning about THEM but ends up about learning about ourselves.
Truthspeak:
Also, to make myself more clear, the spath that southern girl was involved with was the one who was using God to manipulate by saying God blessed them. THAT is what I was trying to convey…that God would never think in that way and that the SPATH was USING God to manipulate. That’s what I was trying to say. I was in no way trying to make the poster feel bad. No way! I just read what I wrote to her again to be sure and I thought I was clear that it was HIM (the spath) that I was speaking about. Anyway, for what it’s worth, I am sorry if I upset anyone.
I am triggered today myself. I went to an attorney yesterday who told me I can’t do anything about spath at work because I waited too long so I am very disappointed. In my state, you have 300 days from the time the incident occured to file a suit and I am way past that. Sigh. I feel tortured.
Louise,
while I agree with you that God doesn’t want us to indulge our lustful appetites the way spaths do, without a sense of commitment and responsibility, I don’t think God wants us to indulge in the marriage contract that way either.
Marriage, the contract, is a man-made abstract. Over the course of history it has had so many forms: monogamy, polygamy, marriage to the widow of your brother, marriage to an entire family of brothers, marriage between a 70-year old man and a 12-year old girl…etc… And when I say man-made, I MEAN MAN-made. Men are meant to profit from these contracts.
Before I knew what the fuck my spath was, I went to a priest and told him that I had been involved with pure evil. He said, “Don’t call anyone evil, we are all children of God.”
um…. okay… Then he proceeded to tell me that it was my fault for living with this man without the benefit of marriage because men want sex and women want love. When I explained that we hadn’t even had sex for 15 years, he was aghast: “You mean…you’ve lived as brother and sister???” duh…
This has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with a game. They will play the game and give you everything they think you want until you seem happy, then they destroy you because they like to get you high so you’ll have further to fall.
If you happen to have money, then marriage is no big deal to most spaths. They’ll marry you, take your money and dump your ass. If you don’t have money, there’s no point in marrying you, they’ll just go for the sex, then dump your ass. It all depends on what you have, and what they are trying to win.
My own spath had a different plan. He wasn’t going to marry me because he expected me to commit suicide, but first he had to make sure he used me for everything he needed AND I had a will with his name in it. He thought he was smarter than your average spath because he’s not afraid to commit murder.
I guess what I’m trying to say, Louise, is that marriage is NOT what protects us from a spath.
I know that you feel tremendous guilt about having sex with a married man. You know, when I first found out about the spath, I searched for all the sins I had committed, trying to figure out why I had been punished this way.
Louise, it’s not a punishment. Just like being forced to go to school 5 days a week for 12 years is not a punishment, it’s a lesson. It’s not about what you did in the past, it’s about what you will do in the future. Sure, we look to the past for our lessons, and we need to learn from them, but I caution against letting guilt be part of that. It could skew your perspective. You know you did wrong and why, you are sorry and you learned your lesson, so let that go. Otherwise, the guilt will keep you from seeing clearly and the next spath will actually MARRY you!!
Yo: MoonDancer….
🙂
Hello everyone.
Just thought I would chime in and say ‘hey’….
My world has been very quiet since Thanksgiving.
AT Thanksgiving time, I received a collect call from a
state prison, here, in my state, from “IT”. It was a message
that was left on my answering machine, one day while I was
gone. They also left a phone number for me to call to stop
all future calls from calling my number. In other words: they
put my phone number on a BLOCKED list so no inmate can ever
call my number again. As I told them: “I have a stalker.
For 13 years, I have had a stalker.
It is quite unsettling receiving this call and at no time, for any reason,
should MY number EVER be called from ANY prison.
No problem. They corrected it. Since then, I have searched records
and can’t find him anywhere in the system which leads me to believe
*that and the location he is at* he was admitted under a psyche. BUT FOR HOW LONG?
I cannot validate his incarceration.
As hard as I have tried. The only reason
“ITS” records would be sealed is IF he was there on
a psyche.
Anyways, I have fortified my home by installing locks,
cameras and adding extra security around me and where
I live but it will only be temporary because I am planning
on moving and leaving no forwarding address behind.
I am still in extensive therapy and medical treatment for
my heart condition and for the emotional problems “IT”
had left me with but you know what?
“I” am the strongest one. I survived the plague.
I am rebuilding MY LIFE and making it what “I” want.
WHAT I WANT does NOT include the stalker – let’s call
“IT” what it REALLY IS. Hm?
I am doing alright.
Part of my therapy these days is BURYING THIS CRAP.
I only discuss it now in the office of my counselor. “IT”
is NOT stealing the rest of my life from me – I refuse.
Love and prayers and best wishes to you all…
I have been so busy lately making plans and
actually looking forward to a HUGE CHANGE
in my life, soon. Wish me luck?
Dupey
Congrats Dupey!
You sound really great. I’m so happy to hear the good news.
southerngirl
I live in the south and we women love our men to be men. We are attracted to Godly men, to men who love their country, and to men who protect their women. So no surprise that a southern girl would be so drawn to the image your spath portrayed himself to be.
I too, have a daughter who has been so traumatized by my spath X!husband. She was mine b/f we married, her birth father was not in her life, but that was not terrible b/c he didn’t know her so clearly his rejection was about him having a very little heart. When my daughter was a teen about to go off to college, my spath/her adopted father told her what he really thought of her, and he zoomed in on that sensitive spot of rejection, that unlike her birth father, HE KNEW HER and that’s why he rejected her.
And he also had a photo album that creepted me out, and what I didn’t say was I also saw it AFTER we separated and he had continued it with photos of women he had affairs with, and of my baby. (She swears he did not molest her though).
I married him b/c while not a regular church goer, he claimed to be Christian, and knew the bible better than I did. His mother was a big time bible thumper. I excused his not going to church b/c a LOT of single people don’t go until they get married. We started going, but he only went to meet people to do business. What HE loved was FUNERALS. He’d have a GREAT time and I could not understand it. I thought perhaps it was b/c as ranchers, it was the only time he had seen some people during the year. (But that was not true, he’d see them at the feed store, the pizza place, the post office, on the road (two rigs stop mid street to chat).
Just wanted you to know, your story is not strange to LOTS of people on here. Unfortunately it makes sense to LOTS of us.
I am sorry for what your daughter is going through and if you are able/willing, please share any insights to her recovery and claiming of her personhood. I sure could use advice myself. I am combing volumns but as you know, almost all books are about blaming the mom. I am fine with being accountable but I have never done the stuff they blame the mom for, and I already do the stuff to try to make amends. I always have. SO I am at a loss what to do to strengthen bonds and encourage communication with my adult daughter. I carry enormous guilt for having brought this monster into our lives but guilt serves no purpose at this point. At the end, it was my daughter who figured out that he used her for an image, his lovebombing was done in front of people, at home he had almost no interaction with us, using our home mostly as a diner/hotel.
You prolly already figured, he might have been in the military, but washed out. It provided cover, but at the time he claimed to have been serving, women were not as well regarded as they are now. Makes no sense that an officer would get out, esp since she was the enlisted female. Give up all benefits to support his wife? No. (my daughter is US Army and she’s had this discussion with many, they all know that decision). IF your spath married the army enlisted gal, I wouldn’t blame her for serving divorce papers on his birthday, esp b/c Nothing seems to get to them. It would just be her, trying to get a little of her own back at him.
The book that helped me most and I recommend for your daughter and you is: Why Does He Do That? by Lundy Bancroft. Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men. I thought THIS book made the most sense WHY my husband was unable to love my baby. She was four when he came into our lives, and so darling and totally loving to him. Yet he never bonded and ended up using her. He also has a book about when Dad Hurts Mom (although mostly about physicall abuse, it also includes emotional abuse.)
Lastly, I am SO sorry for what your baby is going through. It breaks my heart b/c I watch the same with my daughter. I feel SO impotent. As bad as how he treated me, what hurts me unendingly is what was done to my daughter. I will NEVER murder but secretly, I wish I was that kind of person… just for what he did to her and to end it for the next girl (his current girlfriend has a 10 year old girl, any guesses if he’s doing it again?) 🙁
All my best,
Katy