UPDATED FOR 2020
Most Lovefraud readers are here because you were, or are, romantically involved with someone who has a serious personality disorder. Usually romance leads to sex, although you may have noticed that sex with a an antisocial or psychopath isn’t particularly romantic.
The sex may be exciting, erotic and adventurous. But if you’re looking for a true connection, the “sacred conjunction,” you’re not going to find it with an antisocial or psychopath, and here’s why:
Power, control and sex
According to Dr. Liane Leedom, people who have antisocial or psychopathic personality disorder want three things in life: Power, control and sex. Often, sex is simply an extension of their desire for power and control.
The most egregious cases of sex-as-power, of course, are sexual assault and rape. But there are other examples that aren’t as violent or obvious.
My ex-husband, James Montgomery, liked to have sex after we argued. I later figured out that Montgomery, with his superior debating skills, usually won the arguments, and I lost. This meant that he dominated the discussion, and therefore, me, which was sexually exciting to him.
So it wasn’t make-up sex. He was adding physical domination to the verbal and psychological domination of winning the argument.
Excess testosterone
All antisocials and psychopaths, both male and female, have very high levels of testosterone. This is the hormone that makes people compete for partners and then mate with them. So with high testosterone, they do a lot of competing and mating.
Being in a relationship doesn’t stop this. Almost all antisocials and psychopaths cheat.
High testosterone is also associated with aggression and criminality. When high testosterone and a high level of disorder combine with deviant desires, the end result can be a very dangerous individual — a violent sexual predator.
Need for excitement
Antisocials and psychopaths crave stimulation and excitement. Sex is about the most stimulating activity that a human being can experience, so they want it. A lot.
And what, exactly, do they want? Variety.
This means antisocials and psychopaths like sex in a lot of different ways, a lot of different places, and with a lot of different people.
While you are their object of desire, your encounters may seem highly erotic. But sooner or later, they get bored. Then, in search of more stimulation, the antisocial or psychopath may push you to participate in activities that you find uncomfortable.
If you decline, he or she will most likely look for new partners — especially partners who are willing to go along with his or her desires.
But even if you go along with your partner’s new demands, he or she will likely still look for new conquests. Antisocials and psychopaths see no need to remain faithful to one person.
Eventually, when all of their past activities become boring, they may pursue the taboo.
Sex as manipulation
Antisocials and psychopaths know that if they can hook you sexually, you are easier to manipulate.
Here at Lovefraud, we’ve written frequently about oxytocin, nature’s “love glue.” Oxytocin is a neurotransmitter that makes you feel calm, trusting and content, and alleviates fear and anxiety. Oxytocin is released into your bloodstream and brain when you experience intimacy — especially sex.
So when you have sex with someone, because of the oxytocin, you bond with your partner. You become more trusting with that person, and therefore more malleable.
Oxytocin does not affect antisocials and psychopaths like the rest of us. They don’t bond — it’s speculated that they don’t have the necessary oxytocin receptors.
So what happens when you have sex with an antisocial or psychopath? You bond, and he or she doesn’t. You become more likely to comply with what your partner wants, whereas your partner just keeps pursuing his or her agenda.
Read more here:
Oxytocin, trust and why we fall for psychopaths
Straight, gay or sex with anyone
Several times, I’ve appeared on the “Straight Wives — Gay Men” radio show, hosted by Bonnie Kaye (listen on the Lovefraud media appearances page).
Bonnie has heard from thousands of women who were shocked to discover that their husbands have been sexually involved with men. The women typically come to the conclusion that their husbands are secretly gay, and afraid to live their truth.
This is certainly true in some cases. But in many, many cases, the men were simply antisocials or psychopaths looking for variety in their sexual pursuits.
I’ve also spoken with gay men and women who realized their partners were disordered. Many of them observed that these partners weren’t authentically gay.
The bottom line is that many antisocials and psychopaths are neither straight nor gay — they will have sex with anyone.
For them, sex isn’t about attraction. Sex is just another manipulation technique to further their agenda.
Sociopaths and love
The core of the antisocial and psychopathic personality disorder is an inability to love. They cannot experience the human connection of love, the desire to take care of the person that they love.
So what do antisocials and psychopaths mean when they say, “I love you?”
Some know they are being manipulative, and are just mouthing the words to get what they want. But others equate sex with love. They think sex is love. They are essentially saying, “I want to have sex with you.”
Not out of control
Given a typical sociopath’s tremendous appetite for sex, and the desire for variety, you might come to the conclusion that sociopaths are out-of-control sex fiends.
Not necessarily.
Antisocials and psychopaths can subjugate their sexual desires in the service of a larger agenda. For example, they are quite capable of withholding sex from their partners in order to keep them off balance.
And some Lovefraud readers have reported that their disordered partners aren’t interested in sex. (I do have to wonder, though, if the sociopath is getting sex somewhere else.)
As I said at the beginning of this article, antisocials and psychopaths want power, control and sex. But they’re most interested in power and control.
Donna,
Thank you for this reminder of the sexual tactics and views of a spath. I clearly see these traits in my husband. Since we have been separated, he has spent very little time with me….few dinners, church once and a while, lunch occasionally. But when he senses that he is losing control of our situation, he always says “I need to come over and love on you baby. Let me rub your feet and hug on you.” It’s his magic and he knows it! I’m going on three months without the LOVE and my head is so much clearer.
I’m curious about the testosterone part of this. My husband has taken testosterone shots for years due to low levels. But he’s a sex addict. I wonder if he’s found some way to lower his testosterone levels long enough for it to read low on lab test when he has a medical check up.
One other profound point you make is that because the Spath wants sex, he will take any partner. This info was baffling to me when I was in the hyper vigilant investigative stage. I would search his phone and call numbers only to have men answer, especially if he was out of town. I began to think he is gay. It was confusing. Now I realize he just likes it any way he can get it.
Great info here. Thank you!
Ive heard people say that psychopaths are good lovers. I think the intensity is what they’re talking about, but I’m not certain. This is not true in my experience. It was satisfactory when he was at the top of his game in the beginning, but I never thought he was a great lover. He was mostly uncaring and inattentive. Towards the end I just felt like a blow up doll – an inanimate object he would use from time to time. He definitely used sexuality to dominate and abuse me.
I agree with you on this point. Sex with my ex was never the best I had had. To begin with it was satisfactory because he was very attentive but it wasn’t as frequent as I would have liked even then. I believe now it was to do with control and power. I think perhaps because when we met I made him wait for a long time before sleeping with him, he enjoyed the challenge and perhaps thought I had a low libido or wasn’t that interested in sex but it wasn’t the case.
After the first few initial weeks his interest seemed to peeter off very quickly, he’d be ‘tired’ or ‘worried about the business’ ‘been up since 5am’, etc but looking back now, I wonder if it was purely because by trying to instigate sex, I was in his view, trying to take control and he wasn’t having it!
I was not permitted to initiate sex either, and I do believe it was purely a control thing. It had the immediate effect of making me question my own attractiveness and made me think quite badly of myself. I think they do also get bored with partners after the initial conquest is over and sex tapered off pretty dramatically after just a couple of months. He tried to sex me up again if he thought I was somehow slipping away.
Thank you Donna – this article is so clear and covers all the questions I’ve had on this topic. Direct information is my antidote to the gaslighting I’ve endured. When I start to feel that familiar confusion (cognitive dissonance), I remind myself that it’s their lifestyle to want variety and narcissistic supply. It has nothing to do with me. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for that clear understanding.
I am so grateful that long ago I decided not to follow him far into his version of variety. If I had tried to keep up with him, he would have just escalated until I had nothing left. He does absolutely everything you mention in your article. Part of me still does not want to fully embrace what he is – he can be so kind and concerned when it suits him. But the absolute fact that they do not bond is obvious now that I know how to see his behavior of constant trolling and running hot and cold with me.
I have no idea how to express my deep appreciation for those who have figured all this out and presented these facts in ways that even I can understand. I feel like someone has gotten inside my head and helped me sort out all the chaos. The truth is very disturbing, but I am feeling more at peace if that makes any sense. This information is a lifesaver. Thank you.
I wish I had know then what I know now! How many times have we said this? I caught my ex hooking up with men he met on Craigslist. When I first confronted him, it was all my fault. I didn’t trust him, I misinterpreted what I had seen, and now he can no longer trust me because I had the audacity to question him!! Some time later, I found evidence of the same thing- meeting men or groups of men for sexual encounters during the day while I was working and my child was home with a sitter. I gave this man every opportunity ti tell me what was going on, and all he could say was ” I am not gay.” I went through a period of trying to help him thinking he must have a history of sexual abuse, or was just confused. I gave him every benefit of the doubt because I just could not or would not allow myself to believe what was really going on! This was the final straw that got me to leave. And once I did, I came to learn just what I was dealing with, that my husband was a sociopath. Then I learned how common these Craigslist hook ups are and I was sick. My eyes were opened to world I knew nothing about and I wish I still knew nothing about.
Makes me retch to recall this…but I’m here to share experiences….so here goes. My experience was that he used to behave like he was overly excited by me, that he fancied me so much that he couldn’t keep his horrible little hands off me. So it made me feel desirable. He also had a nylon fetish – loved pantyhose right up to the waist on a woman. Not stockings and suspenders – it had to be pantyhose. When “finished” he used to immediately get off – no hugs or cuddles or nice words. He wanted to do nothing else in life but have sex so had many women secretly on the go at once.
Was he any good at it? I hadn’t many to compare against but when with him I felt he was just basically “on-the-job” – no tenderness, sometimes a bit rough – it was just sex. But I read many men can be like that. He was always ready and willing though. He also wanted to do “role-plays”. It was his “desire/over excitement” that made it seem a bit better than it actually was. He used to go into a temper if he didn’t get it.
There are so many things I could add here, as I’ve encountered most all of the behaviors you have mentioned during my 30-yr marriag to my high school sweetheart. Because I had no other experiences, I wasn’t aware of what a “normal” love life was. While I came to realize my husband was a sex addict – porn, affairs, etc., I was completely blown away when a long-time friend confided in me after my divorce. It seems my then-husband was seen several times in an area of our local forest preserve known for gay hookups! I now realize that there was so much more to his secret life than I had realized, and I’m sure I’ll never know the extent of it.
I am so glad that this information is helpful.
The key is that for sociopaths, sex is for physical release, manipulation, and as a strategy to pursue their agendas.
There will never be any tenderness or true connection in sex with a sociopath.
Forgot to mention that the age of the women he had sex with varied. During my encounter his youngest was 25 and his oldest was 70. He had been having sex with the 70 year old for many years. She was 20 years older than him. He took me to gay bars a few times and I assumed it was because he didn’t like other men looking at me.
Wow. Just wow.
Mine is on many, many dating sites searching for victims and all the profiles say for age of partner he wants 18 to 70. I was with him 7 years. From the beginning I felt there was something odd. Then I realised – it was mechanical, often too rough at times. I felt like I was a piece of meat. No love at all on his part. Actually he didn’t know how to please a woman if you understand. I was left with the feeling ‘was that it?’ But I also decided not to show him how to do it to please the female too. I must have realised straight away he’s highly promiscuous and without love.
My 35 year old (at the time) spath hooked up with women from early 20s to mid-60s. He didn’t care.
Thank you, Donna, for this article. In my sharing, I forgot to mention this particular characteristic of my husband. Although there are no other partners, male or female (at least that I’m aware of), he truly fits the mold in all other ways. There is no love or affection or tenderness … with him, it is truly nothing but sex. Always has been that way. “Making love” are words that he has never spoken.
At first we had a very good, if a little risque sex life. He did have a problem with (how can I put this politely) …keeping it up, but then he did drink a lot (I later learned he was an alcoholic). One time I remember he did actually tie something round it to keep it up lol.
He did seem to be in to me and no one else. I don’t think he was seeing anyone else, at least not in the beginning anyway. He used to keep telling my friends how much he cared for me etc. He did however like talking to people, especially women. It didn’t bother me particularly, except in the boredom stakes. When you’ve heard the same story 40 times over the years it gets a bit monotonous. lol
He claimed to have been raped in an institution but I don’t know whether that was true. He was into S&M & he also liked to wear women’s clothing. At first I think he did it to see my reaction. When I didn’t respond negatively he carried on with it. He looked quite good in a basque & stockings lol. I think he did it to shock others. He used to wear a sarong out and about and some of the men he used to drink with once asked me if I thought he was gay lol.