Lovefraud has heard from many people who have been romantically involved with sociopaths. They often comment on the “amazing sex.”
Many sociopaths are skilled lovers, and there are reasons for this.
First of all, sociopaths are hard-wired for sex. They have an excessive need for stimulation, excitement and sensation. They also have no fear and no inhibitions. From a sexual perspective, that means a voracious appetite and anything goes.
Secondly, sociopaths get a lot of practice. They usually start young—precocious sexuality is one of the early behavior problems typical of a sociopath. As they get older, sociopaths continue to engage in frequent, casual sex. Sociopaths have plenty of partners, and plenty of opportunities to learn.
Sex but no love
But just because there’s sex—even what appears to be wild, passionate sex—doesn’t mean there’s love. Sociopaths may be technically competent lovers, but there will never be any true intimacy or emotional sharing involved.
Many people who have contacted Lovefraud have been confused by this. Their encounters seemed so caring, so earth-moving, that it was difficult to believe there was no love.
Here are the facts: Sociopaths are not capable of love. Sociopaths are, however, convincing liars, and they know that if they say the words “I love you,” they’ll probably get more sex.
Furthermore, when a sociopath seduces his or her target, it’s a way of establishing control. Along with getting the physical desires of the moment met, the sociopath may also be getting money and a free place to live. All for whispering a few sweet nothings—and to the sociopath, they truly mean nothing.
Diagnosing the disorder
The most accurate tool for diagnosing whether someone is a sociopath (also called a psychopath) is the Psychopathy Check List-Revised (PCL-R), developed by Dr. Robert Hare. The tool, administered by a trained professional, rates the person on 20 items to determine an overall psychopathy score.
One of the items evaluated is “promiscuous sexual behavior.” This is defined as impersonal sexual relationships, frequent one-night stands, cheating, frequent casual sex, several sexual relationships at the same time, deception to convince others to engage in sexual activity, and possible charges for sexual assault. (Believe me, sociopaths are capable of all of it.)
Another item on the check list is “many short-term marital relationships.” This means the person has frequent unstable interpersonal relationships and/or multiple marriages.
Irresponsible and casual sex, therefore, is one of the hallmarks of sociopathic behavior. Some sociopaths are also capable of truly frightening sexual violence—but that’s a topic for another post.
Ox,
I’m very triggered by your post. I know you don’t mean it to do so, I think I need to figure out why it’s so for me.
I have some ideas, but this felt like an invalidation of what I was seeing.
Can He change for her? WAS it just me, even though I know it was me, if that makes sense?
oh boy……
Dear Eden,
TOWANDA GIRLFRIEND!!! GREAT JOB!!!! Block that sucker!!!! I’m not sure if you should inform your friend what you found or not, it is something you might want to think about though.
Welcome to Love Fraud and glad that you have been getting some good out of our posts. That’s what it is all about and you are NOT ALONE. Isn’t that a nice feeling??? Cause boy, I sure felt ALONE in the world.
Stay NC, that is your best bet! Keep up the NC!!!! Don’t let yourself down!!!!
I think you are gonna do just great and putting your newly found information to work for you in outing this psychopath (and I think you are right, sounds like he is definitely high in P-traits! and dishonest as hell!)
NO, BTW you do not sound crazy, you sound passionate about your new knowledge and I think it is GREAT!!! Again, a big hearty welcome to LF!!!!
Thank you, Ox Drover!
It is an honor to have you reply to my post, as I have seen you and your encouraging words posted throughout the many topics of discussion, on this website. I appreciate the welcome as well! I will post my story, shortly, I am sure. May I ask you, Is there a more appropriate place to begin? To post an initial story, perhaps. Where others may benifit from hearing it. Not that you and the others on this thread wouldn’t, and I would be most happy to do so, however, I do not want to take away from the importance of what is being discussed here at this time. I do appreciate any advice you can offer me about regarding my question!
Many thanks!!
Dear LL, no he won’t change!
After a while it will bore him to death and he will “break free” after he has seen her flaws, and after she has turned into a nervous wreck, and he will have to put her off the pedestal. Then he will be looking for new supply before he dumps her (not completely though, he will put her on the backburner in case the new supply will dump him as well).
It is like they all operate from the same textbook, be it Australia, Europe or the US, the Middle East; maybe Asia is not so infested? Or this blog is mainly western?
Anyway, IT IS NOT YOU!! IT IS HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HI M, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HI M, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM,HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HI M, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HI M, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HI M, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HI M, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM,HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HI M, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM, HIM,HI M, HIM, HIM,HIM, HIM (copy paste as much as needed).
…..and not you….
(((hugs)))
Dear LL, no darling he cannot change for her? He WILL not change for her! He is TOXIC, he is POISON, he is BAD….add to the list of words here all you want….
“A rose by any other name smells the same”
It does NOT matter what you call him, it is what he IS. He IS toxic, he IS BAD, he IS POISON! (AND SO ON)
You being triggered by the above post does have to do with YOU, not the post…because somehow I think you are “hung up on” the TERM “psychopath” and if he is not a “psychopath” then you have not been abused. WRONG!!!!!!
It is fairly common for newbies to come here and even ask “am I the psychopath?” Or to say “is it my fault?” “Am I to blame?”
So do not think you are alone in this “trigger”—go to the Elizabeth Kubler-Ross site about GRIEF PROCESS, you are in the “Bargaining” stage I THINK and are still trying (I think) to talk yourself into going back to him/or leaving him and being SURE you are making teh right decision.
Hang in there, kiddo, it DOES GET EASIER! (((hugs))) and my prayers!
Eden….this is EXACTLY what we need to teach our children about life!
My neice met a guy who her whole family LOVED!! He was “so charming, funny, etc….”
He is a SOCIOPATH!!! She found out it was all a lie!
We need to teach RED FLAGS RED FLAGS RED FLAGS…
Pity ploy, borrowing money, charming….
And, to be cynical and trust NOONE!!!!
I hated to be so “negative” about people in the world…used to teach my children the opposite…give everyone a break.
Boy am I glad that I taught them the RIGHT way to live in our world…>TRUST NOONE!
I was “sleeping with the enemy” with my xhusband. When my g/’f’s husband saw something in him….I was shocked. He said that he was going to kill me someday and get away with it. This was early on when he was so sweet, kind, smiley…quiet.
Well, my g/f’s husband is a federal agent..one of the top profilers in the country!!
He was RIGHT!!!
If we were all taught…exposed to these dangerous characters…alot of pain and misery and violence and crimes might be lessened.
Smart woman, Eden!! Not just for doing the check on him..but following your “gut feeling”….
LL,
well, I’m going to disagree with everyone here again.
I think he WILL change, for her. He will become whatever she wants him to be, he will mirror her, he will lie to her, he will find HER hooks and use them against her. He will be different for her because that’s what they all do. There is no REAL them, they are all LIARS and they lie about EVERYTHING.
It doesn’t matter what he becomes, it won’t be real, but it WILL BE EVIL.
Welcome Eden,
Post your story anywhere, anytime. All of the seemingly unimportant details, end up being crucial to our understanding of RED FLAGS. Your story is valuable, as are your insights.
Kudos for getting to the bottom of the mystery man. Very impressive!
Thank you for your input, tobehappy!
It is interesting because I was raised in a very loving, nurturing, TRUSTING, innocent environment. Both with family, and friends. I agree with many of the things you have expressed, however, I don’t think I wish to have that exact mindset, and I am not puttting it down or your opinion on it down in any way. I completely respect what you have said. Maybe there needs to be a balance. Maybe it is possible to have a balance. You have really sparked in me the desire to speak to my son about my experience. Of course in an appropriate way as not to cause him to think the world is a terrible place to live, but rather to be aware of his surroundings, and check things out before making any moves or decissions.
Thank you for your encouraging words!! Regarding the check I did on him and my gut feeling… I truly think that was provoked by the experience I had with the Psychopath. I don’t think that I would have gone there in my head, otherwise. I would only assumen you can understand what I mean. I don’t have the same thought processes anymore. My mind and my thinking patterns have changed. Is it safe for me to assume that it is the same for everyone who is dealing with the aftermath or has been victimized so to speak? I would be interested to know for sure. I am gratful for my ability to see that there could be a potential problem or issue with a person like the one I had checked on, however, is this something that I can just take on as a new trait/ability, due solely to the fact that I had been victimized. If so, it is somewhat amazing. And it helps me to see that some good has come from my experience with the Psychopath. Anyway, now I am rambling…
Thank you so much, tobehappy!
Eden
Thank you, Skylar!
I will go ahead and post, then!
I appreciate you letting me know.
Thank you..
Eden