Are sociopaths who cry “sensitive sociopaths,” or just extra clever sociopaths? What’s going on when sociopaths cry? Is their crying ever sincere, or always insincere? Is it ever deep, or always superficial? Always calculated, or sometimes spontaneous?
In short, what’s the deal with sociopaths and the crying game?
There are some sociopaths—more classical, Cleckley-like sociopaths—who can “cry on demand,” by which I mean cry, as if spontaneously, from a consciously manipulative agenda. Many of these sociopaths can summon displays of emotional vulnerability, like tearful anguish and contrition, with the skill of the gifted character actor.
In some cases, to extend the metaphor, some sociopaths—in the moment—may be so in character as to “virtually believe” in the authenticity of their presentations. These sociopaths may conjure tears, for instance, and then see the tears they’ve conjured as evidence, as ratification, of the sincerity of their response.
I use the term “virtually believe” to denote the sociopath’s capacity, in these cases, to almost delude himself into believing that he’s as sensitive and vulnerable as his presentation would suggest, when in fact—that is, when in reality—he’s, of course, shallow and fraudulent.
Conversely, there are also sociopaths who, producing seemingly spontaneous displays of vulnerable emotion, remain aware of the inauthenticity of their theatrics. That is, these sociopaths recognize that they are acting even as they may be successfully convincing others that they’re not.
What partly covers, or protects, sociopaths who engage the “crying game” is the inherent challenge of separating spontaneity and authenticity. That is, we tend to assume that what’s spontaneous is also authentic—indeed, that spontaneity itself virtually proves authenticity.
But this is a fallacy, which is to say that what’s spontaneous isn’t necessarily authentic. The sociopath’s ability, for instance, to conjure tears spontaneously—that is, at any given, self-serving moment —certainly doesn’t certify his emotional display as authentic.
But is this to say that sociopaths’ tears and crying are always, by definition, inauthentic? I wouldn’t say so, at least not definitively. But I would suggest that where, arguably, the sociopath’s tears are not a product of sheer manipulativeness and inauthenticity, the emotion(s) driving his tears will, by definition, be shallow and invariably selfish.
So, for instance, the sociopath choking up in the courtroom upon hearing the verdict “guilty” that will lock him away for life, may be conveying real emotion—he may really feel bad, upset; however, to the extent that he’s really suffering, we can know that he’s suffering not from what he took or stole from his victim(s), but from what he feels has been taken or stolen from him (for instance, his freedom).
He will suffer, in a word, as victim, not victimizer.
And should he appear to “grieve” his situation—versus protest it with his narcissistic rage—again let me stress: he will be grieving as victim, not victimizer. And his grief, like everything else about him, will be shallow, and dissipate quickly; and then he’ll reinhabit his usual state of emotional nullity.
But again, even in cases where his disarming loss of emotional composure—his tearfulness, for example—isn’t purely manipulative and play-acting, we can surmise that, often, this will reflect less the sociopath’s genuine, deeply felt emotion, like sadness, than a buildup of tension and stress associated with developments unfavorable to his interests (for instance, a jury’s return of “guilty”)—all of which may culminate in an emotional discharge of tension, which occasionally may take the disarming form of a passing squall of tears.
(Thanks to Lovefraud member Newlife, inspirer and friend, for prompting my initial consideration of this subject, which I intend to expand in a near-term post. As always, my use of male gender pronouns is for convenience’s sake, and not to suggest that females are incapable of the behaviors and attitudes discussed. This article is copyrighted © 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
Hi onesteppers how you be?
hanging in 😉
am applying for a gooood job. and today am trying hard to avoid working on the resume. am succeeding.
it’s beautiful here. all the trees are leafed out. i can see the nieghbor’s huge old willow swaying in the wind when i work in the kitchen, so am sitting here watching it.
energy up days are so awesome. days with only a little physical pain (like today) are awesome. days without dealing with spathy stuff are awesome. have had such a lot of physical pain lately. and there is this darkness about me – am trying to watch it and see what it is about, and what it is telling me.
got a whack of food from the foodbank. makes me tres happy.
okay – gotta go work on the resume now. have a great day!
libelle – just wanted to say hi, good to see you!
Dear One! Hi back to you! You seem and sound so much better, I am so happy for you!
AND GET THAT RESUME DONE!!!
Fingers are crossed for your wonderful new job
And I hope that your batteries are recharged for good ((((hugs))))
PS re the darkness: for me it would be a screen for prevention of TOO MUCH GOOD 😉
It is sort of indicitive too, of what they are wanting to accomplish with their tears. When my egg donor was trying to convince me to “forgive” (read:trust and pretend he was honorable) Uncle Monster for his heinous behavior to his mother, wife and children, and have christmas dinner with him at her house, she would cry so broken-heartedly that I was the one “‘ruining” her Christmas by not giving in to her wishes…I remember asking her if she realized what she was doing to MY Christmas and her tears became wracking sobs, but I don’t think she in anyway “got it” (the point) she did later though, Punish me for not giving in.
Seems like, looking back on it, that “tears of persuasiion” always preceeded rages of punishment and anger if I did not give in to the tears!
Steve this is so true…
I had the opportunity to watch my ex sociopath boyfriend cry two times and the last time it really sounded so pathetic and fake (at that time we were going to a turmoil in our relationship as I was decided to end it and he was begging me to not to). Anyway, we went to this religious event and we all had to bend down on our knees to pray and all of a sudden this guy started crying as there was no tomorrow. I even felt compelled to put my hand over his shoulders and comfort him but something told me not to. The best part of it is to come. After all that cry he just raise up his head, cleanse the few tears left and for my big surprise his face looked so fresh and happy as if nothing happened, he was smiling and behaving like “job is done let’s move on to other excitements”. It was a big cry with no emotion whatsoever, by that time I knew nothing about SP but I felt awkward with that theatrical scene, made me wonder about him. Now I know the answer.
Dear Libelle,
I suggest that you keep on setting LIMITS for your godchild’s behavior in YOUR house. NO ONE, including her, should be alloowed to lie and act rudely in YOUR home.
In YOUR home, YOU set the rules! I have often taken care of children of others who were allowed in their own homes to be rude, messy, etc. and I would tell them up front. This is MY house and I make the rules how people act in MY house. So, no matter how you are allowed to behave at HOME, since I make the rules here, here are the rules…pick up your toys when you are finished. Say please and thank you, no whining etc. then ENFORCE those rules.
“Sweetie, you seem to have forgotten the rules about picking up your toys, so please do that now.” If she protests, then say somethning like “I will just sit here until they are p;icked up and we will not be able to do so-and-so until they are picked up” then sit there. Ifr it takes a long time (like an hour or so) then say afterwards, “Well, you took, so long picking up your toys that I am sorry we won’t be able to do so-and-so now, there is not time left. But next time you will pick up your toys quickly and we can go on to other things.
If they are “ill” (faking it) to keep from going to school, I would make a BIG DEAL about HOW ILL they were and KEEP THEM IN BED, no TV, no games, no books, lights out, shades drawn, and bread and water only for their poor little stomach. I would also come up with some FOUL tasting fake medicine (harmless of course) concentrated Kool-aide without sugar disolved in a bit of water is a good one. The purpose of this was of course to give them a NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCE to their lying about being sick rather than rewarding them by allowing them to have a “free” day home. If they say “Oh, I’
mm feeling better now so I can get up, you say “Oh, no dear, if you get up I am sure your head ache will come back and you must stay in bed” then keep them there even if it means you must sit by them or lie down by them. All the3 while of course pretending you thought their lie about beinbg “so sick” earlier was true. LOL hee hee About twice of this will usually CURE them of faking illness.
Libelle:
When I was in kindergarten, I did not have anything for “Show & Tell” time, and I was afraid to tell the class that I had nothing to share.
So, when my turn came around for “Show & Tell”, I told the class that my Mom was pregnant (LIE).
Of course, everyone got all excited for me…..even the teacher.
Everything was going great until my Mom and I ran into my kindergarten teacher at the grocery store.
Of course, my kindergarten teacher took the opportunity to congratulate my Mom on her “pregnancy”.
I was busted and I had to confess to my lie.
I guess my point is that it is not unusual for kids to lie sometimes.
It does not always mean the kid is sociopathic.
In my case, I was just a stressed-out kindergartener who wanted to make a splash at “Show & Tell” time.
Mission accomplished. 🙂
The important thing is I learned EARLY that it is always better to be honest.
And lying is a dead-end street that will leave you looking like a fool everytime.
style1
you say:
‘ he told me he loved me and tears well-up in his eyes” it just didn’t feel real..it didn’t feel totally false but it didn’t feel real..’
I think that’s it, if it’s real it feels real. Usually I feel closer to someone who REALLY cries. But with the P I was always wondering …is he crying? as yes there was big welled up drops that kind of spilled over (no red face or stuttered words, no redness or embarrassment) but there was always a doubt in my mind about the emotional depth of his tears.
in two years he cried twice. once when I left to go home after spending weekend, he wanted me to stay….(note HE WANTED SOMETHING, and yes I drove back like a fool) the other time when I found out he was chatting explicitly to woman on internet, I shouted the place down and told him to get out as he was walking in with huge valentines hamper on valentines day!! he was really angry first, “oh no….that meant nothing! you were so busy…I felt alone….sorry…then “crying” on knees please…very convincing because I gave in crying myself and allowed him to comfort me….should have kicked him out immediately….but he got his way both times…I was a pushover
I am a crier myself. I cry when I feel like crying and don’t make a big deal of it. The P hated it he started out comforting me, then walking out saying well if you think crying will help fine but Ido not have to listen to it… It can happen when I’m driving and I hear a song I love, sad movie, friend telling me something sad, at the thought of my parents dying….so many things…but there was a 4 month period after the P I just couldnt cry. I was wide awake, kind of zombie like and could not feel anything except waves of fear and numbness. It was shock I guess. It was so big I blocked it out. Then the tears came and I cried like a baby, still grieving to this day nearly 1 year no contact
Style1 I hope the tears come for you too..They heal, cleanse, soothe.
Thanks.. I would love to have a nice long cry with tears streaming down my face.. I think that it would really be cleansing for me..
One night in a dream, I was crying.. I forgot most of the dream, but that I was crying.
Crying is healthy when real … as it cleanses…
I am tired of taking care of needy men…
I want to be able to cry and relax….
Now, I use working out as a release… and it does help..
I cried years ago when I saw the movie THE NOTEBOOK… That was my last big cry.. and it felt great.. maybe, I need to see a really sad movie…