Are sociopaths who cry “sensitive sociopaths,” or just extra clever sociopaths? What’s going on when sociopaths cry? Is their crying ever sincere, or always insincere? Is it ever deep, or always superficial? Always calculated, or sometimes spontaneous?
In short, what’s the deal with sociopaths and the crying game?
There are some sociopaths—more classical, Cleckley-like sociopaths—who can “cry on demand,” by which I mean cry, as if spontaneously, from a consciously manipulative agenda. Many of these sociopaths can summon displays of emotional vulnerability, like tearful anguish and contrition, with the skill of the gifted character actor.
In some cases, to extend the metaphor, some sociopaths—in the moment—may be so in character as to “virtually believe” in the authenticity of their presentations. These sociopaths may conjure tears, for instance, and then see the tears they’ve conjured as evidence, as ratification, of the sincerity of their response.
I use the term “virtually believe” to denote the sociopath’s capacity, in these cases, to almost delude himself into believing that he’s as sensitive and vulnerable as his presentation would suggest, when in fact—that is, when in reality—he’s, of course, shallow and fraudulent.
Conversely, there are also sociopaths who, producing seemingly spontaneous displays of vulnerable emotion, remain aware of the inauthenticity of their theatrics. That is, these sociopaths recognize that they are acting even as they may be successfully convincing others that they’re not.
What partly covers, or protects, sociopaths who engage the “crying game” is the inherent challenge of separating spontaneity and authenticity. That is, we tend to assume that what’s spontaneous is also authentic—indeed, that spontaneity itself virtually proves authenticity.
But this is a fallacy, which is to say that what’s spontaneous isn’t necessarily authentic. The sociopath’s ability, for instance, to conjure tears spontaneously—that is, at any given, self-serving moment —certainly doesn’t certify his emotional display as authentic.
But is this to say that sociopaths’ tears and crying are always, by definition, inauthentic? I wouldn’t say so, at least not definitively. But I would suggest that where, arguably, the sociopath’s tears are not a product of sheer manipulativeness and inauthenticity, the emotion(s) driving his tears will, by definition, be shallow and invariably selfish.
So, for instance, the sociopath choking up in the courtroom upon hearing the verdict “guilty” that will lock him away for life, may be conveying real emotion—he may really feel bad, upset; however, to the extent that he’s really suffering, we can know that he’s suffering not from what he took or stole from his victim(s), but from what he feels has been taken or stolen from him (for instance, his freedom).
He will suffer, in a word, as victim, not victimizer.
And should he appear to “grieve” his situation—versus protest it with his narcissistic rage—again let me stress: he will be grieving as victim, not victimizer. And his grief, like everything else about him, will be shallow, and dissipate quickly; and then he’ll reinhabit his usual state of emotional nullity.
But again, even in cases where his disarming loss of emotional composure—his tearfulness, for example—isn’t purely manipulative and play-acting, we can surmise that, often, this will reflect less the sociopath’s genuine, deeply felt emotion, like sadness, than a buildup of tension and stress associated with developments unfavorable to his interests (for instance, a jury’s return of “guilty”)—all of which may culminate in an emotional discharge of tension, which occasionally may take the disarming form of a passing squall of tears.
(Thanks to Lovefraud member Newlife, inspirer and friend, for prompting my initial consideration of this subject, which I intend to expand in a near-term post. As always, my use of male gender pronouns is for convenience’s sake, and not to suggest that females are incapable of the behaviors and attitudes discussed. This article is copyrighted © 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
Buttons,
I am listening. You have the experience to know what is going to happen, I really need to listen. I keep thinking that it will be different than other peoples experiences, that he is the person I thought he was, but it’s only a mask. There has got to be something akin to a soul in his body. How can this man be the father of my beautiful children? How could I have been deceived by this con? He is so responsible in many ways and doesn’t fit the typical spath, but he’s toxic.
I suppose I will be asking these questions for a very long time. He is trying to keep me off balance by his constant hovering. He actually wished my older daughter a happy birthday yesterday, (his step-daughter), and she said that he is kissing my ass through her. She didn’t know who the heck was texting her at first, he never tries to contact her. Last year was her golden birthday and I wanted it to be special, he complained about it “What the heck is a golden birthday, I’ve never heard of people celebrating it”.
He is so obvious. all manipulation
Hopeforjoy, I can’t predict what will happen, any more than I can predict where a leaf is going to fall at any given time. But, what I have noticed over the years through my own personal experiences and the experiences of other Survivors is that there is a distinct pattern of behaviors that cycle over, and over.
No matter how cunning and manipulative the spath may be, one thing is constant, static, and virtually written in stone: their pattern of behaviors. They cannot alter these patterns for the simple reason that they cannot fathom any other ways to realize the end results. They may vary things from time to time, but they are completely INCAPABLE of altering the general patterns of behavior.
Donna’s most recent post about the ex spath in her life is a clear demonstration of this. “Major Fraud” set people up with an elaborate fabrication of his credentials, baited them, lured them, and hooked them. Once they were hooked, he gutted them like a flounder and went along his merry way to bait, lure, and hook the next victim. The patterns of behavior DO NOT VARY, generally speaking.
The spath does not, IMHO, posess a soul. Where there is a complete lack of conscience and remorse, how can there exist a soul? I went through the same feelings, Hope. How could I have produced offspring with something so vile??? Well, I did, and that’s that. Certainly, if I could have known what was down the road, I might have made a better choice. Who knows? Woulda – shoulda – coulda. I don’t play that game with myself, anymore. It’s like the dog that can’t stop chasing its tail – he might get ahold of his tail, but he keeps spinning around and around.
Brightest blessings, Hopeforjoy.
buttons – i used to think the ppath was VERY inventive (20 + fake characters per con, and a huge amount of fake and truamatic detail)…but now i know that she has been recyling pretty much the same story for a long time. coming to know the ‘facts’ in greater and greater detail and in a progressively organized manner (we up to comparing charts and spreadsheets now), i see that she has a very hard time deviating from this one story.
‘No matter how cunning and manipulative the spath may be, one thing is constant, static, and virtually written in stone: their pattern of behaviors. They cannot alter these patterns for the simple reason that they cannot fathom any other ways to realize the end results. ‘
‘CANNOT FATHOM ANY OTHER WAYS TO REALIZE THE END RESULTS.’ THIS is very well put!
One_step, it’s just been my experience that they cannot deviate or adapt.
Because Hopeforjoy’s spath is described as a near-carbon copy of the ex spath, I can see the pattern almost as clearly as if I were standing in the same room. Other spaths operate in different circles – whatever has worked for them is their modus operandii. But, the point is that, regardless of how they work their victims, they cannot and DO not adapt to avoid detection. On some level, there is a cog missing that does not allow spaths to alter.
Putting this into perspective: victims of spaths have the ability to eventually alter into Survivors, while the spath NEVER has the ability to alter into a former spath. If that makes any sense, I’ll be amazed.
well be prepped for amazement; you are making complete sense to me.
WE have the opportunity to evolve and truly change within out lifetimes; they do not.
i just find it sooo odd that ‘they cannot and DO not adapt to avoid detection.’ and in the case of the ppath of my aquaintance – she is being caught out by that fact. it may be the one power we can have over them in any battle – they WILL out themselves by their repetitive behaviour and WE can better at defense and offense over time. (i am saying this in my own context wherein the ppath is being outed more and more for her elaborate online cons, and getting caught precisely because she doesn’t alter her scams)
like groundhog day. and THEY are the unchanging day.
Buttons and One-Step,
This is what I had been waiting for, the big change. I thought if I just pushed hard enough, he would step up, be willing to change and become a better person. He just can’t stop manipulating, even when admitting to the lies and being vulnerable would serve him better, he won’t stop. It boggles the mind, the excuses he comes up with. Like a five year old caught with his hand in the cookie jar, “I didn’t take a cookie”.
Spath would have had a chance if he could have been open. I’m glad he is not, because I don’t want another 19 years of hell. The gaslighting was horrendious!
One step-Your spath will never learn, she’ll go to prison touting her innocence. “It wasn’t me! I didn’t do it!” Or she’ll mess with the wrong person.
Hopeforjoy! That’s why ANY of us stayed, I believe.
My sickness was this: if I sacrificed enough to demonstrate how much I loved him, he would RECOGNIZE this and WANT to work together!
You know, I can laugh at my perceptions (literally) today because I can see the whole forest, now. I used to beg him to attend joint counseling – save the relationship and family! Take an ACTIVE ROLE to facililtate a healthy relationship! Oh, my….I can’t even begin to calculate the oxygen I wasted by begging!
Hope, you mentioned the “Big Change.” Because we can experience gratitude, appreciation, and actually FEEL humble, the “big change” is meaningful to us. An epiphany.
My partner’s sister is married to a very, VERY nasty spath – her method of coping is eating, morphine (yeah, morphine), and elective operations. A few years ago, this spath was diagnosed with a tumor in his jaw. Of course, he was going to die of terminal cancer and everyone in the world pitched in during this most difficult time. Well, the operation was a complete success and the whole family waited for him to respond in a positive way to his life-threatening experience.
To the shock of most, his behavior became even worse with far less attention paid to subversion. He was no longer a covert spath, he kicked himSELF out of the Sociopathic Closet.
Big changes do not occur for spaths. The “big change” that this jackass experienced was NOT, “Dear Creator, I will take the hint and do good, from now on.” His experience translated into, “Great Creator, I BEAT YOU!!! I WON, and I triple-dog-dare you to TRY and stop me, now!”
Dear Hope,
He has to sleep some time!
Get your important papers in hand IMMEDIATELY, pack a bag with 2-3 days of clothes, your papers, some cash, your credit cards (btw–make sure his name is OFF THEM) and SPLIT, you and your daughter are THE most important things to safeguard! Go to a shelter if necessary, or to a friend’s house, a relative’s –SOMEONE’s and get your attorney to file THAT DAY.
YOU KNOW WHAT he is!!!! The longer you delay you may be risking yourself or your daughter, he CAN be “sweet talking” you while he does God only knows WHAT legally or financially.
DON’T TRUST him at ALL! ((((hugs)))) and God bless.
OxD!!!!! HOLY SHITBALLS!!! I never even THOUGHT about the Delay Tactic!!!! I was just focusing on the emotional tug ‘o war! YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!!! While he’s busy DIVERTING focus, he could be wiping out every account and filing motions!
Thank the Great Creator for you, OxD!!!