Are sociopaths who cry “sensitive sociopaths,” or just extra clever sociopaths? What’s going on when sociopaths cry? Is their crying ever sincere, or always insincere? Is it ever deep, or always superficial? Always calculated, or sometimes spontaneous?
In short, what’s the deal with sociopaths and the crying game?
There are some sociopaths—more classical, Cleckley-like sociopaths—who can “cry on demand,” by which I mean cry, as if spontaneously, from a consciously manipulative agenda. Many of these sociopaths can summon displays of emotional vulnerability, like tearful anguish and contrition, with the skill of the gifted character actor.
In some cases, to extend the metaphor, some sociopaths—in the moment—may be so in character as to “virtually believe” in the authenticity of their presentations. These sociopaths may conjure tears, for instance, and then see the tears they’ve conjured as evidence, as ratification, of the sincerity of their response.
I use the term “virtually believe” to denote the sociopath’s capacity, in these cases, to almost delude himself into believing that he’s as sensitive and vulnerable as his presentation would suggest, when in fact—that is, when in reality—he’s, of course, shallow and fraudulent.
Conversely, there are also sociopaths who, producing seemingly spontaneous displays of vulnerable emotion, remain aware of the inauthenticity of their theatrics. That is, these sociopaths recognize that they are acting even as they may be successfully convincing others that they’re not.
What partly covers, or protects, sociopaths who engage the “crying game” is the inherent challenge of separating spontaneity and authenticity. That is, we tend to assume that what’s spontaneous is also authentic—indeed, that spontaneity itself virtually proves authenticity.
But this is a fallacy, which is to say that what’s spontaneous isn’t necessarily authentic. The sociopath’s ability, for instance, to conjure tears spontaneously—that is, at any given, self-serving moment —certainly doesn’t certify his emotional display as authentic.
But is this to say that sociopaths’ tears and crying are always, by definition, inauthentic? I wouldn’t say so, at least not definitively. But I would suggest that where, arguably, the sociopath’s tears are not a product of sheer manipulativeness and inauthenticity, the emotion(s) driving his tears will, by definition, be shallow and invariably selfish.
So, for instance, the sociopath choking up in the courtroom upon hearing the verdict “guilty” that will lock him away for life, may be conveying real emotion—he may really feel bad, upset; however, to the extent that he’s really suffering, we can know that he’s suffering not from what he took or stole from his victim(s), but from what he feels has been taken or stolen from him (for instance, his freedom).
He will suffer, in a word, as victim, not victimizer.
And should he appear to “grieve” his situation—versus protest it with his narcissistic rage—again let me stress: he will be grieving as victim, not victimizer. And his grief, like everything else about him, will be shallow, and dissipate quickly; and then he’ll reinhabit his usual state of emotional nullity.
But again, even in cases where his disarming loss of emotional composure—his tearfulness, for example—isn’t purely manipulative and play-acting, we can surmise that, often, this will reflect less the sociopath’s genuine, deeply felt emotion, like sadness, than a buildup of tension and stress associated with developments unfavorable to his interests (for instance, a jury’s return of “guilty”)—all of which may culminate in an emotional discharge of tension, which occasionally may take the disarming form of a passing squall of tears.
(Thanks to Lovefraud member Newlife, inspirer and friend, for prompting my initial consideration of this subject, which I intend to expand in a near-term post. As always, my use of male gender pronouns is for convenience’s sake, and not to suggest that females are incapable of the behaviors and attitudes discussed. This article is copyrighted © 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
Style1:
Here are some movies that made me cry:
“Million Dollar Baby” – Starring Hillary Swank and Clint Eastwood.
“Titanic” – Starring Leonardo Di Caprio & Kate Winslett
“Ghost” – Starring Demi Moore & Patrick Swayze
“Love Story” – Starring Ryan O’Neal and Ali McGraw
“Sophie’s Choice” – Starring Meryl Streep
“The Thorn Birds” – Mini Series from 1983
Dear Rosa, dear Oxy, thank you so much!! I am HUGELY relieved by your answers! Well my sister made it clear to her daughter that she has to get along with the adult ruling the house in her absence; and she DID shower and clean up, but it was very stressing for me just to wait patiently during the “powerplay”.
Rosa: It is though some difference between the death of a beloved animal and a happy pregnancy, I think, and my niece is 8 years old, but maybe I am just expecting way too much from her?
But there seems to be some hope! Thanks, and have a great evening!
Our mom used to had us wear vinegar socks to lower the fever, and it was VERY unpleasant to be sick. My friend’s mother made onion liniments… (we complained about transforming into mixed pickles, but without any success. It worked!)
I remember that I had no interest in TV at all when I was sick, and when I have migraine I have to stay absolutely quiet in a dark room for not to throw up.
Another thought came into my mind: my sister got breast cancer when her daughter was 4 years old; so my godchild accompanied my sister to the radiotherapy, got to know all the treatments and sees the medications my sister has to take every day, so the idea of death is something not so far fetched for her. (my sister made it also clear at the time of the diagnosis that I should be my godchild’s Extra-mom when she dies, as she has a huge insurance to protect the child moneywise to go through college and if the father is after the money and wants the child to live with him we would be in jeopardy without pre-arrangements with child-protection and the like)
Just recently for the first time she took out a photograph of her father she never saw (it is a happy foto on an island with my sister when they were on holidays).
And on top she has to change school in summer, losing all her friends from the old school; and everybody tells her that it will be HARD, and also everybody tells her that “sick leave” will be IMPOSSIBLE there!
Lots of stuff to work on for a little girl!
Style: the most hankies I saw and heard being used were
“The bridges of Madison county”
the absolute worst for me: “Schindler’s list” when in the end they mention all the people who were saved by Schindler (since then I go to the cinema alone)
Dear Libelle,
I would try to appear to be as calm as possible with the child, and not get emotionally upset by her antics or her acting out. Just say, “well, we can’t go to x until you clean up, and if you take too long we won’t go at all, then set a TIMER for a few minutes and tell her if the timer goes off she doesn’t go to the next place. Also, if she doesn’t clean up THEN, let her stay dirty, but she must sit in a “time out” until bed time, then to bed, lights out, etc. so she decides how much “punishment” she gets. When she gets tired of the punishment she is inflicting on herself and gets bored by not getting her way OR GETTING YOU EXCIGTED, she will act a bit better I think.
Good luck.
My ex used to cry too sometimes. He cried the first time he told me he loved me. He cried the first time I told him I loved him. He cried when I told him about my rape when I was younger. He cried when one of his students was killed in an accident. He cried the first time we made love. He cried more when I told him he was my first orgasm. He would cry if I tried to break up with him and beg me not to do it. He cried when he evacuated for the hurricane and we were separated. He cried when he came back home after the hurricane. He cried when his wife found out about our relationship and he cried when she kicked him out. He cried several time when we living together before he discarded me and turned into Mr. Hyde.
I tend to be a crier too. I cried for all the same above mentioned things. I used to cry when he left me to go home to HER or on those times when we were supposed to be together and he had to cancel. I cried on the holidays when we were separated. I cried when he came home after the hurricane-it was like he had been away at war or something.
I cried WAY TOO much in the relationship-now that I think about it. I guess it’s because I let a married sociopath talk me into denying my morals to be with him. I guess that what happens when you’re with someone who’s taken. That will be my biggest red flag-will NEVER EVER do that again.
I had a bad morning thinking about him-hadn’t happened in awhile. The med school where he teaches held graduation today and I had to pass his office on the way to work. All I could think about was this arrogant pompous ass strutting around in the cap and gown acting like the big powerful important professor. I got angry again about him trashing my reputation and acting like I’m like I’m worthless, while leaving his rep entirely intact. I got mad that the wife took him back-AGAIN-cuz I wanted him to suffer the way I did.
oy, this is such a hard topic for me.
the fake boy cried all the time.
all. the. time.
he was ill. emotionally and physically. constantly having to deal with the perils of surgery and a death sentence. and the horrific fallout of his childhood and 7 year relationship with a horrid man.
blah blah
blah.
cried almost every time i talked to him. sometimes buckets. moaned with physical pain.
really good stuff to snare a compassionate woman.
one of her other dupes questioned my ppath diagnosis as the ppath could cry at the drop of a hat – now, i don’t know where she is getting her info….i guess she thought that A DISPLAY OF EMOTION, SUCH AS TEARS, WAS EVIDENCE OF AN EMOTIONAL LIFE, OR A CONSCIENCE!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA…………
Rosa:
To your list I would add:
The Bridges of Madison County.
And, “On golden pond” and I have to confess guys, “Where the red fern grows” “Old Yeller” and “the yearling” and even “BAMBI” I’m a cheap date if getting me to cry is the object of the date! I’m a weeper, for sure!
brokeback mountain;
magnolia.
oh onestep in brokeback mountain when ennis finds the shirts in the closet – i just lost it….
The spath probably only cried 5 times in 28 years!
and looking back….i’m sure they were forced or performed tears….NEVER SOB. Too much ego for a sob.