I was with my sociopathic ex-husband, James Montgomery, for two and a half years. During this time, I knew he was costing me money, but he attributed his lack of business success to “being ahead of his time.” I eventually discovered that he was lying and cheating on me. But although I saw eruptions of anger, my ex was never abusive towards me—nothing like the abuse many of you have endured.
Some sociopaths can treat people reasonably well for an extended period of time, if it suits their purpose. For example, Lovefraud received the following e-mail from a reader:
I was not in a disastrous relationship with my S. Our relationship was less than three years, our marriage less than two, when he openly cheated and decided to leave me, then played games of false reconciliation, which in hindsight were so he could have two sex partners.
The short end of my question is… How do you reconcile the basically happy marriage, the illusion of a man you married with the horrible monster he has become in trying to create turmoil in your life and use your greatest love (your child) to hurt you?
Expressions of love
I’ll get to this reader’s question shortly. But first I want to review some of the information Lovefraud learned in last year’s survey (not the current one) about people involved with individuals who exhibited sociopathic traits. One of the objectives of that survey was to investigate whether and how often sociopaths expressed love.
We asked the question, “Did the individual you were involved with verbally express love or caring to you?”
A total of 85% of all survey respondents said yes. And, when the individuals being described were the spouses or romantic partners of the survey respondents, rather than parents, children or others, 92% of the males and 95% of the females expressed love verbally.
How often did this happen? A total of 44% of survey respondents said the sociopathic individual expressed love daily.
Complete change
The survey also asked the following: “Please provide a brief description of the way the person you were involved with expressed love. How did this change over the course of your relationship?”
Now I’ve been hearing all kinds of stories about the games sociopaths play in relationships for more than five years. Yet some of the answers to this question still made my jaw drop.
A small group of survey respondents reported a complete change of behavior the moment they were committed to the relationship—moved in, married or pregnant. This startling change was reported in reference to 7% of the females and 5% of the males. Here are some of the quotes:
Initially with dates, flowers, gifts and little thoughtfullness’s. After I married him, he said, on the Honeymoon, ‘I can stop acting now.’ I thought that he was joking. I later learned he did not do jokes.
From very loving to cold indifference…started right after we were married — The change was startling — cold, distant, indifferent, condescending, mean spirited, accusatory — self righteous, irresponsible
It changed the minute we got married. Then he owned me you see, I was nothing to him after he lured me in! All he wanted was MONEY!
In the beginning of the relationship (before marriage) he was loving, caring, could not do enough for me. Called me his soul mate, his true companion in life. This continued until the day I married him, within hours after the wedding ceremony his personality shifted. It was as if I had dated and fell in love with one person, but married someone I was completely unfamiliar with, he was a stranger to me in all ways.
Doesn’t exist
So, back to our reader’s question, “How do you reconcile the basically happy marriage with the horrible monster he has become?”
The man this reader saw during the happy part of the marriage did not exist. It was an act, a charade, a mirage that the sociopath kept going until it no longer served his purpose. The real man is the horrible monster.
Babe?
No, not Illinois, but MIGHT AS WELL BE>
WHAT AN ASSHOLE!! This man is an ASSHOLE babe!!!
It doesn’t MATTER what you look like.
Let me tell ya sista……….I have a VERY nice figure and I’m VERY pretty……a good person, compassionate and loving and GREAT in bed…………IT DOESN”T MATTER TO THEM!!!!
His next love bomb was over 200 pounds but HIS needs had changed……………MONEY!!!
She was super nice too. A lovely woman. She had a pretty face…but he said he could “never do a fat chick, you know what I like”
BASTARD. This man is a BASTARD BABE!!! HE USED YOUR BEAUTY AGAINST YOU, YOU WERE SLIMED!!
Own your beauty inside and out!!!
What an asshole. What the FUCK Is it all about?
Don’t try to make sense of nonsense babe.
Go get what you’re WORTH!
LL
HE WANTED YOU TO BEG HIM NOT TO GO!! SAME FUCKING SPATHY SHIT AS MINE!!
Let him go, babe. He’s a worthless piece of shit.
Yo’ure worth MORE!!
LL
Was that ONE MORE try at hurting me or feelign like he was more powerful? During a recent fight, I wanted to leave the place we were due to feeling SO insignificant, unwanted, unimportant…so I tell him at bedtime “I want to go home.” He says “we’re not goling home…we didnt drive all the way here to go home.” I say “I WANT TO GO HOME.” He says, “fine, Ill bring you to the bus tomorrow.” I say “how are you gonna get me there because you cant drive?” He says he will find a way. I say “NO…I am the one who drove us here so I will decide if we leave!”
He tells me MOnday as we’re breakign up “you know, I realized just how much power you have over me with that statemnet about YOU beign the one to drive.”
I WASNT TRYING TO PLAY A POWER GAME…I wanted to leave!!! And I am the one who can drive!!!
Ack!
I think I slimed everyone with my tourette’s syndrome, now you’re ALL cussing. shit!!
I hate cussing. my spath cussed a lot to get the drama going. I don’t know why it’s coming up so much in my mind now. I just type what I think and it’s mostly cusswords. But I’m trying to convey that I AM resisting, somewhat. I AM cognizant of my anger. Not sure why it’s so triggered lately. Usually anger signals fear….is it my cabin…
whatever.
Anyway, Babe, he was trying to take your power and he FAILED. NEVER AGAIN BABE. Let this be the last time he wastes a day of your LIFE.
Babe, I don’t want to insult you in anyway, but it’s time for you to take a look at yourself. Why would a HOT woman with a master’s degree and her shit together, even consider this worm who has a GED and lives with his mommy?
what are YOUR issues? what was you childhood like?
I’ve come to know that my problems were rooted in having N-parents. Maybe you need to investigate that too?
Don’t think I’m putting you down, please. I just want you to be spath free forever.
The very last words out of the Psychpath’s mouth, that I had been involved with were… Get a load of this, Laidies…. Are you ready?
YOU MADE ME HAVE SEX WITH YOU!
HAHAHAHAH!
That is when I said; “I am no longer interested in you, and I wish to having nothing more to do with you from here on out. I haven’t had contact with him, since. It was very apparent that he was attempting to manipulate my mind in some way, and really, there was nothing to question. Nothing to think about. It was the weirdest thing I had ever experienced in my life. Out of no where. Never a reason for it. So bizzarre!
E
Babe,
WOW! I don’t know WHAT your spaths circumstances are ( haven’t seen the entire blog on this yet), however, it sounds JUST LIKE MY EX POS………I cannot BELIEVE how much it sounds like him….
WHAT an asshole!!!
Eden, yours too. So MANY similiarities……
doesn’t make it hurt any less though, does it?
Sky, you’re right. Having been raised by spaths, I can see how were were primed to accept this kind of treatment and it’s the BIGGEST mindfuck EVER……….
But I can tell you, with all I’m seeing here tonight with some of these posts…….
Spaths are spaths are spaths, Chica. You have a beautiful woman here with a master’s, another beautiful woman in a place of prestige in profession in realstate that is brilliant, and then one like me who isn’t so much, STRUGGLING for education and one like you who has made it but not…….some with spath backgrounds, others WITHOUT……..but the theme is the same…
These bastards know how to hone in, PERIOD. You don’ thave to come from a bad background for this to happen……..all you have to be is loving, kind, empathic and believe in the good of all mankind and he can TWIST IT AND FUCK YOU OVER IN A HEARBEAT…….and that’s why education is so important.
I’m seeing DW’s situation and HOLY SHIAT…….TWO MONTHS? MY ex’s gf is TOTALLY sucked in!!! POOR THANG!!!!
(DW, I hope you let this spath go, really)….but do you see how easy it is Skylar? I think Bob Hare is right………they can suck in the very best of them, EVEN PROFESSIONALS………so here’s the bottom line…….they leave us something to think about insofar as WHY we got sucked in…….and allowing that to bring forth our traumas from the past is great, but EVEN WHEN WE THINK WE ARE HEALED…………just like DW, we can STILL be vulnerable ((DW, GET OFF THE ONLINE DATING SITES!!)…and be a victim to a spath.
They are JUST that good……….and in thinking about the absolute HELL It is to untie all the knots and damage is insurmountable……..overwhelming…….
THEY ARE SUCH POISONOUS MINDFUCKS!!!
Skylar? It’s okay to cuss. Right now I’m REALLY pissed.
I wish I could line these bastards up and shoot em one at a time……but that’s probably too quick and good for them after all they’ve done to us…….
They see our DEEPEST vulnerabilities.
OMG, I’ve never known such evil.
And I pray to GOD I never know it again.
You all make me feel SO GLAD I’m single!!!
LL
Eden,
I don’t even know what to think of that.
i had an old bf, my childhood sweetheart, who said, “you made me love you”
PS, Babe?
GEt out and stay out. 🙂
You’re way too intelligent to put up with shit like that.
LL
Babe,
One thing my exPOS use to say to me a lot was this, “babe, you have so much power over me”…
Use to make me feel so special. now it makes me nauseous.
It was a projection.
HE had so much power OVER ME!!!
Take what he says, does, FLIP IT!!
Open your eyes girl!
LL
Sky,
You’re wonderful. Can you light some candles and sit in a hot bathtub and relax?
I realize this is triggering. It is for me too.
I’m gonna go eat some shrimp now to my hearts content. Then I’m gonna sleep in (try) tomorrow because my kids have a snow day and I don’t have to take my son to school. 🙂
Be good to yourself.
Love ya.
LL