I was with my sociopathic ex-husband, James Montgomery, for two and a half years. During this time, I knew he was costing me money, but he attributed his lack of business success to “being ahead of his time.” I eventually discovered that he was lying and cheating on me. But although I saw eruptions of anger, my ex was never abusive towards me—nothing like the abuse many of you have endured.
Some sociopaths can treat people reasonably well for an extended period of time, if it suits their purpose. For example, Lovefraud received the following e-mail from a reader:
I was not in a disastrous relationship with my S. Our relationship was less than three years, our marriage less than two, when he openly cheated and decided to leave me, then played games of false reconciliation, which in hindsight were so he could have two sex partners.
The short end of my question is… How do you reconcile the basically happy marriage, the illusion of a man you married with the horrible monster he has become in trying to create turmoil in your life and use your greatest love (your child) to hurt you?
Expressions of love
I’ll get to this reader’s question shortly. But first I want to review some of the information Lovefraud learned in last year’s survey (not the current one) about people involved with individuals who exhibited sociopathic traits. One of the objectives of that survey was to investigate whether and how often sociopaths expressed love.
We asked the question, “Did the individual you were involved with verbally express love or caring to you?”
A total of 85% of all survey respondents said yes. And, when the individuals being described were the spouses or romantic partners of the survey respondents, rather than parents, children or others, 92% of the males and 95% of the females expressed love verbally.
How often did this happen? A total of 44% of survey respondents said the sociopathic individual expressed love daily.
Complete change
The survey also asked the following: “Please provide a brief description of the way the person you were involved with expressed love. How did this change over the course of your relationship?”
Now I’ve been hearing all kinds of stories about the games sociopaths play in relationships for more than five years. Yet some of the answers to this question still made my jaw drop.
A small group of survey respondents reported a complete change of behavior the moment they were committed to the relationship—moved in, married or pregnant. This startling change was reported in reference to 7% of the females and 5% of the males. Here are some of the quotes:
Initially with dates, flowers, gifts and little thoughtfullness’s. After I married him, he said, on the Honeymoon, ‘I can stop acting now.’ I thought that he was joking. I later learned he did not do jokes.
From very loving to cold indifference…started right after we were married — The change was startling — cold, distant, indifferent, condescending, mean spirited, accusatory — self righteous, irresponsible
It changed the minute we got married. Then he owned me you see, I was nothing to him after he lured me in! All he wanted was MONEY!
In the beginning of the relationship (before marriage) he was loving, caring, could not do enough for me. Called me his soul mate, his true companion in life. This continued until the day I married him, within hours after the wedding ceremony his personality shifted. It was as if I had dated and fell in love with one person, but married someone I was completely unfamiliar with, he was a stranger to me in all ways.
Doesn’t exist
So, back to our reader’s question, “How do you reconcile the basically happy marriage with the horrible monster he has become?”
The man this reader saw during the happy part of the marriage did not exist. It was an act, a charade, a mirage that the sociopath kept going until it no longer served his purpose. The real man is the horrible monster.
And here I am…thinking….trying to find blame in myself…
The fact is this…I WASNT perfect. My attitude had an impact on this happening. He told me “I dont think you realize just how far your pushing me away”…
FUCK…and I dont even remember the ‘severity’ of my negative attitude. I know I had a ‘rough’ time, however, that was certainly me at my WORST! He said he knew I handled pain, hurt, sadness with anger first and shouldnt take it personally…
Dear Robskykobabe,
If he was a “nice guy” he would have paid the bill—PERIOD. That had nothing to do with you releasing his number or not. He owed it. He knew he owed it. He didn’t pay it…to punish you. You got a CHEAP lesson. Only cost $60 to find out what a creep he is. Ask Donna how cheap by comparison that is. LOL
babe,
“I dont think you realize just how far your pushing me away—
If I could count on one hand how many times I heard that VERY SENTENCE, WORD FOR WORD out of my spath?????
Wow. There are just times here where I get so much validation for what I’ve been through. It doesn’t hurt any damned less, but it IS so validating!
They all speak and play out of the same damned book.
LL
Lesson Learned,
(((hugs)))
but see, on the bright side, our emotional nerves are at least FUNCTIONING…unlike the spaths, who are dead insde.
GTTM (((HUGS BACK)))
Well, sorta…you see I’m newly out of this..how long have you been out?
Wow, I don’t know how I’d feel if I found out mine was getting married again and hearing what you did….
That must have HURT!
I feel for you…..
LL
babe,
In reading your post above again, he WANTS you to take the blame, which is why he said that. He took a GRAIN of truth (being human) and SLIMED you with it so YOU”D feel bad and HE didn’t have too.
Boy…..I think the last couple of days here is really helping to lift the fog in some ways.
LL
kim frederick –
“How is it that sociopaths are ever diagnosed as sociopaths?”
I just read Dr Robert Hare’s “Without Conscience”. It answers (in detail) that very question. Well worth getting it.
robxsykobabe –
“I ask for my keys back since hes not livign there anymore”he acts surprised. ”
Please change your locks – if he had a set of keys, it is likely that he may have had a spare set made from them. Don’t risk it. They don’t know how to take no for an answer and will often let themselves into places that they have been kicked out of. Mine did.
“I am now stuck with about 800 dollars in bills from the two months we lived together”not to mention a 4 month old puppy”
Pretend that the puppy cost you $800 (after all, some of them DO cost that much!) Remind yourself that you got out of this (especially considering the relationship lasted over 4 years) VERY VERY cheaply indeed in terms of finances. Lucky girl! Pay the bills, cut the ties completely (arguing over the bills will continue a contact you need right out of your life) and call the puppy your $800 dog.
“he was referrign to us as a ’family’. His son referred to MY house as ’home” and “my bedroom’ and “my puppy”. He CLEARLY felt connected at my place”
No. They feel NO connections. What he meant was that he had power and control over those things. He only moved in to exert more control over you. Don’t allow it.
“you know, I realized just how much power you have over me with that statemnet about YOU beign the one to drive.”
Mine said this too. Utter crap and projection. Exactly as already advised by LL – flip it to get at the truth.
“Me-Just pay the bill
H-Have you released my number?
Me-Just pay the bill”
Good girl. Rinse and repeat. If you must have limited contact over anything while you disengage, then have a script and do not deviate from it. You did good. Keep it up.
lisaptrn –
“Willing to die for the spath, constant texting while driving the interstate for 2 hours nonstop. Like I really need this!
Wednesday, 23 February 2011 @....... 2:58pm”
Please elaborate? I notice nobody seemed to get back to you. Sometimes things on here move so fast that posts are overlooked. It is never intentional.
LL, the name of the book is the
“48 laws of power” (there’s a review of it here—it is the Psychopath’s play book!
Aussiegirl:
As I continue to talk with EVERYONE about this, I am reminded of how this was EVIDENT within months of us dating. How soon I had forgotten some of the subtle ques that raised a question THEN but were partially ignored. You complimented me on the ‘low cost’ of dating him for 4 years…it is TRUE!!! I DID stand my ground LOTS of times which, inevitably, saved me a ton! You helped me think of something too…he made no mention of the cable bill which is in HIS name. He made no mention of what HIS plans were with that…either going in to fill out the form for change of name or just cancelling the service all together. This bill is in HIS name…you’d think it would be important to have THAT shut off/changed sooner than later, huh?
Nope…he was REALLY pissed that I didnt ‘listen’ to him earlier in the week when he TOLD ME what I can do about the phone…clearly EXPECTING I was gonna listen to him! Fuck off…tell ME youre not in love with me anymore, not attracted to me, interested in me or feelin me and try and DICTATE wham IM gonna do…for you?
Ahhhhhh, and your statments over the ‘connections’! He told me in November (6 months after getting back together..again) he wasn’t feeling ‘connected’ to me…that ‘the honeymoon period’ seemed to be over…and he had said this about the ‘connection’ in December, January and February…but in February he had said “I love you, Im just not in love with you.” I had felt a STRONG sense that I was not ‘welcome’ in my own home when his son was over. I felt left out…not considered…like a third wheel…when he was over. Funny…as I type this something is coming to me…
I was being used!!! I provided a place for he and his child to ‘live’ which meant it was THEIRS too. Me being here was simply like any other house ornament…THEY just worked around me because it was THEIR house now. I just lived in it (as the money train, laundry doer, dish washer, bathroom cleaner, ect). WOW!!!THat is EXACTLY HOW IT FELT!!! And his statements of ‘well, you isolate yourself. You could join us when we are playing a game or watching a movie” ITS MY HOUSE MOTHER EFFFFFFER!!!
Ox.
I read that post. Scared the shiat out of me!!
I can’t imagine reading the book. Lots of triggers and I’m an avid reader… A lot of the books I want at the library one has to wait WEEKS for…………just goes to show ya that there are MORE that are wondering what the hell they’re dealing with………..
Ox, that book is SCARY!!!! But I want to read it too!
LL