It was just a name in the subject line of an email.
I knew the name. How could I forget it? It was the name of the man who had betrayed my trust and my love for the four years nine months of our relationship.
Curious, I opened the email and read the words of a woman whose daughter’s girlfriend is engaged to a man named ”˜Jack’ (not his real name). I think he’s the same man you knew, she wrote. I read your website and the article from when your book was published. Do you have a picture?
I wrote back and told her I had burnt every picture I had of him. She sent me one by return email. Is this the same man? I’m really scared for my daughter’s safety. Conrad and my daughter’s friend have been living with us for a couple of months. He’s made lots of promises. Lots of commitments to do this, do that. None of them have come true.
I wrote back.
Unfortunately, it’s him. You can’t change him, I told her. You can help your daughter and her friend get free by learning as much as you can as fast as you can about narcissism and sociopaths. I gave her a couple of websites to read and I suggested a couple of things she could do to end the abuse now. There’s a good chance he’s up to his illegal activities once again as he has two high-end cars in their drive and one license plate which he continually shifts from vehicle to vehicle. I’ve suggested she contact the police and have offered to speak with the young woman who believes she has been swept up into Prince Charming’s arms.
When I wrote The Dandelion Spirit, I wanted to help women and men caught in a liar’s web to make sense of the craziness. I wanted to encourage and enlighten as well as inspire people.
Over the two years since the book was published I have heard from countless people — telling me their stories, asking for advice, thanking me for helping them understand and to breathe freely again.
I never expected to be able to help someone extricate themselves from Conrad’s web.
Expect the unexpected and life will never disappoint you.
It is my belief that knowledge is a gift to be shared. I learned a lot through the ”˜Jack’ experience. Learned about narcissism, sociopaths/psychopaths. About liars and abusers. And, I learned about being free. About turning up for me, in all my cuts and bruises, to stand tall and proud, a victor in my own life.
Helping others is not about getting even with the abuser. It’s about ensuring people know their rights, their duty and responsibility to be true to themselves. It’s about helping them understand they have the power to cut the ties that bind them to someone else’s abuse — and to help them find their courage to do it.
I have been blessed. In the 5+ years since my release, I have been given the gift of healing and the opportunity to help others find their paths away from abuse.
I am one lucky woman and I want to share my good fortune with the world around me.
“In today’s environment, hoarding knowledge ultimately erodes your power. If you know something very important, the way to get power is by actually sharing it.” Joseph Bardaracco
Everyday, survivors of these affairs stumble into this sight and take heart at the words written here by those who have journeyed through similar darkness. In our sharing we brighten the road and lighten the load of those who have fallen behind us. In our sharing, we illuminate the path for others to follow.
I never expected to be given the gift of helping someone involved with the same man I was. When first I read her words and thought about my response, I wondered if I was doing it out of vindictiveness, or was I truly coming from a loving heart.
I questioned myself to ensure I stood true to me, my values, principles and beliefs. And then, in the end, I realized — my heart belongs to me. In helping someone else, I am not going after him, I am going after what is right — sharing what I know and have learned so that someone else can find their way out of the darkness.
For the woman who wrote me, the story has a happy ending. She got him out of her house. For his new girlfriend, the story continues. She did not heed their advice. Did not want to hear what they said about him.
I know where she’s at. I know how scared she is and how frightened and alone she feels. I cannot change her path. I cannot alter her course. I can only continue to do what I do to create a world of peace around me: speak out against abuse and speak up for those who have lost their voice.
Dear LIG,
You are getting it GF!!!! Yea!!!!! Big gold star!!!
They are not entitled to treat us this way. What they did to us was WRONG, but…we did ALLOW it to go on, and on and ON!
That does not, I REPEAT, **NOT*** make us “to blame” for what they did to us. It is sometimes hard to get that difference between we ALLOWED them to hurt us, BUT THEY are to BLAME for hurting us.
Remember the old saying “crap on me once, shame on you, crap on me twice, shame on ME?” That is TRUE. We SHOULD have run after the first episode of abuse, but we were so hooked in, and BECAUSE WE ARE GOOD PEOPLE, we “gave the the benefit of the doubt”—we may have seen the “RED FLAGS” (warnings) waving, but we explained the away because we LOVED THEM. Few of them, but there ARE a few, are perfect PERFECT cons and don’t wave at least a “few” RED FLAGS for us to see, but because we are loving, kind, caring people, we again, give them the benefit of the doubt.
If we know they have cheated repeated on another woman, we think WE ARE SPECIAL they won’t cheat on us. DUH! RED FLAG, cheats don’t change their style—they stay cheats. I’m talking about PATTERNS of behavior here.
Is he dishonest with others? Rude to others? Talks hateful and vengeful and nasty about previous loves? RED FLAG!!!
But at first we don’t recognize these red flags for the IMPORTANT WARNINGS that they are. Not learning about REd flags and what they are, how to spot them, etc. will leave us vulnerable to another psychopath in the future. Many people (not all of us) fall again and again for Ps in their love lives, their friends, family, etc. over and over and over. I am one of those “repeat victims” because I DID NOT LEARN TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THE RED FLAGS. Now when I see a red flag, I run like a race horse, only FASTER.
ONE LIE is enough of a red flag for me to put someone WAAAAY outside my “trust zone.” Depending on the person and the situation and the relationship I may not even “challenge” them on the lie, I may just sort of “vanish” from much contact with them, sort of like a little bit of smoke, drifting off quietly.
If it is someone in my “circle of trust” then I will most likely challenge it, but depending on attitudes etc. it would take a miracle the size of the Parting of the Red Sea to make me ever trust them fully again.
I think most if not all of us go into the “self loathing” stage for a time because we ALLOWED it to go on for so long (however long that was) still hoping that our GUT INSTINCTS were wrong and that they did love us, but you know, that’s also a NORMAL part of the healing process—FORGIVING OURSELVES. It was one of the hardest parts for me. I’ve been programmed to “forgive” others but NOT TO FORGIVE MYSELF for being human. BE GOOD TO YOURSELF, Kind, caring and forgiving. (((hugs))))
Mine is not a borderline I don’t think. He’s a very confused man .. he’s the ISFP personality type, same type as Britney Spears and Michael Jackson. He’s definitely an attention seeker in some ways, but is also so introverted, withdrawn and quiet. He will also, strangely do anything for anyone when he is with them, and is responsible about going to work and taking care of his house etc.
I think it’s got to be tough to be a sociopath with a people pleasing personality.. “winks”..poooooor baby…
He solved his problem by splitting his personality into two. The nice Jim would never do anything to hurt anyone, never says an unkind word, will bend over backwards to help you.
The “bad Jim” is a mean, hurtful, spiteful man that enjoys seeing others in emotional pain, would kill his enemies if he could, and doesn’t give a rats ass about anyone but himself.. if even that.
I think it was an attempt to control me, really. It’s fine for him to date whoever he wants and put me on the shelf whenever he feels like playing with one of his other toys, but let me try to have someone else in my life, and that’s another story! I gotta get back to NC, no chance of being friends, or lovers, and this makes me very sad, because I really did love the guy, and wanted those wonderful fireworks to go on and on and on.
kat: our ex’s sound exactly alike!
but … one thing i learned is that my ”nice-jim” was ONLY nice because that’s what he had to do to get what he wanted, whatever that may have been: an ego stroke, sex, money, a job, recognition, etc. etc. etc. etc ….
they don’t have two personalities; there is only one … the selfish, evil, conning, cruel, lying, cheating one. the nice side is nothing but a ploy. it’s hard to accept, but that was when i truly understood the ”how” of what he did. how could he do this to me??? easy. he’s a friggin’ sociopath. and whether being nice or cruel, it’s all a manipulation to get what they want.
nothing more … nothing less.
it’s horrible and unbelievable, but it is what it is.
there is an AMAZING essay i found that made me laugh and cry and gape in disbelief, but it also made me feel better because i realized (on a whole other level) that it sure as hell WASN’T ME!
here’s the link: a MUST READ:
http://www.halcyon.com/jmashmun/npd/traits.html#secret
hugs to all …
Dear Kat and LIG,
Kat, I agree with LIG, they are NOT “two people” they are ONLY ONE, and they use the APPEARANCE of “Nice Jim” to cover up and MASK the aspects of themselves so that you will hang around.
HOW FAR would they get if they were NASTY JIM ALL THE TIME? Hell, you wouldn’t stay around to endure their abuse if they were mean to you all the time now would you?
They have to throw you a bone once in a while or you would bug out on them and they wouldn’t have a victim. A source of supply.
When I want to hookk up my donkeys and make them work, I call them to me and give them a treat. If they knew I intended to work them they wouldn’t let me near them, but I call them with a treat (they fall for it every time) and then put the halter ropes on them and they are caught and I put harness on them and work them. If I didn’t give them the treats they would run every time they saw me. Sometimes I give them treats without working them, so they never know when they will be worked or not, but they LIKE THE TREATS so they take a chance that maybe THIS time I won’t be “mean” to them and put the harness on them and make them work.
The Ps do us the same way….they offer us a treat and we take it HOPING THAT THIS TIME THEY WON’T ABUSE US AGAIN. It is just like Pavlov’s dog experiments of ringing a bell everytime you fed a dog, and pretty soon the dog is conditioned to think that if the bell rings he gets food and he starts to slobber, even if there is no food around.
INTERMITTENT rewards are the most conditioning, that is why SLOT MACHINEs WORK, because each time you do something (a trick or whatever) you think THIS TIME MAY BE THE REWARD, and you keep on trying, with CONTINUAL reinforcement, like giving the donkeys a treat every day and then stopping, after a while, they would not come any more. So it is important that EVERY time I go out to call them I do NOT give them a treat, so I mix it up, sometimes I call them and no treat just a pet, and other times I call them and they get a treat and a pet, and sometimes I call them give them a treat and then work them (in their eyes are mean to them as they don’t like to work) and sometimes I call them, give them no treat and work them and then give them a treat afterwards. So THEY ARE NEVER SURE but they KEEP HOPING for a treat.
The Ps do us the same way and CONDITION US to “treats” with INTERMITTENT REWARDS, and just like the dogs or the donkeys WE ARE HOOKED. We will endure almost anything in the way of “meanness” to get that TREAT—the HIGH they give us. We are addicted and conditioned to it all. We focus on the REWARDS/TREATS they give us and “blow off” the pain in the quest for the REWARDS.
I have decided I am smarter than my dog and I am smarter than the donkeys (although I do have a bumper sticker that says “My Border Collie is smarter than your honor student”) LOL Which wouldn’t be so funny if it weren’t mostly true! Critters are pretty smart, but by conditioning their smarts can be “over come” and so can ours if we let it.
Kat and LostInGrief:
For the first month after the break-up, I just didn’t completely grasp what he was. I obsessed constantly trying to make sense of the dual personality. I just couldn’t believe he was the monster everyone was saying he was. I had to keep finding out. I had a friend of mine who lives in Florida call him. She conferenced me in without his knowing. I sat there and witnessed him lying to her 3 times without skipping a beat. And she was totally fooled by it!!! Then she confronted him on our reptile website in private messages. He lied again. He didn’t know she was forwarding me his responses. It took repeated instances of this before I could come out of denial. The shock was just so complete. It helped that my friend was also furious that he had lied to her.
Once I knew the truth, I still doubted from time to time, when I was missing him. But now, after 2 months, I feel the bond starting to break, finally. I know it will happen for you, too, if you listen to your head and just stay away. It may take longer because you both were involved much longer. But the bond will eventually fade, and the obsessing will get less and less. You will just get tired of it, because you will never find and answer. It will eventually get better over time.
TakingMeBack: Thanks for your wisdom, and I really take it to heart. I will stay alert and aware for signs of revenge. But I won’t live in fear over him.
Stargazer,
The first thing that came to mind was, “walk softly and carry a big stick” LOL. It does no good to live in fear. It does great things to live in “the know” with awareness.
As for figuring out their personality…that is the biggest conundrum of all isn’t it? I had a similar experience (how often do I say that phrase on here?) when one of my friends read an email my ex had sent her. The lies were astounding! I couldn’t believe that he was telling everyone else these lies and continuing to tell me the opposite things to my face. I coudn’t figure out who would do such a thing or why. It was so painful. I’ll never forget that. It is such betrayal to hear someone you love say such nasty things. Non one that loves you would do that. As with you, I had to experience this over and over to finally get it.
I shared a link of the “Fear:…” thread that speaks to this. I just added it today. I think you’ll appreciate how the “rant” portrays how they do this very things and others. Ah, to be free of that.
As for doubting yourself again even after the evidence was right in front of you… oh you’re preaching to the choir. I could not believe how easy it was to do that! If I’m not careful and I start to pity him or think of him in any way other than an extremely personality-disordered abusive man, I can start to question again. So I am vigilant and stay in the truth reminding me of what he did as often as I need to. Luckily the emotions are not there so this is easier to do. But the tendency to internalize things and blame myself are two things I have to be careful of. These are common for victims of abuse. So I guess we should walk softly but carry a big stick inscribed with what they did and who they are so we can identify if someone like that crosses our paths again and we know what to do. Hit them over the head with the stick and run in the other direction LOL.
ooops…shared a link IN the “Fear” thread….ah so many typos, so little time to figure out how to spell check LOL
Takingmeback (still trying to think of a good hiphop name for you…..)
How ’bout “walk softly and carry a sharp snake hook? ha ha ha Did you read the story of how he got a snake hook to the crotch when he tried to get too close to me at a snake show?(I’m still laughing about this. God, it was so funny…..player gets ‘hooked’). Apparently, the hook got snagged on his zipper and my friend almost pulled the zipper down. That would have been soooo appropriate for the player to get “exposed”. ha ha ha Don’t mind me, I’m having a moment!
StarG
Hey Gang OXY I am in CO. I am soaking up this beautifil cool weather, I am having a good time. So many of you talk about yourX’s having homes, friend’s, a social life etc. (M) just move’s from one (BF) to the next. Never attempt’s to get his own place. But he does talk about it, even goes to garage sale’s etc. to get thing’s for his own place. But from what I have seen and learned of his past, he has never as much as had his own apartment. As for friend’s, I never met them, they were all bar aquantenes, he was really big in the (electronic dart’s tournamant’s) with his X, they traveled all over to play dart’s. He was obsessed with dart’s, I even attempted to play dart’s but I bored him, he said I wasn’t serious about it, duh excuse me, I thot I was serious. Same way with playing pool, he was a pool hustler, took the game very seriously, I would attempt to play pool with him but i wasn’t (serious) about that either.
And when I had my friend’s or family over he was very uncomfortable (bored) and would find an excuse to leave or go nap. He even confronted me very hateful about something in front of a friend. That friend stopped visiting me because he said Mike was crazy. I think Mike new he had me fooled but didnt want to have to be out the energy to fool my friends or family or he was a fraid they could see right through him. Anyway, don’t know where I am going with this post. I think M was more borderline than sociopath if that makes any sense. He was using me no doubt, but was very confused and scared it seem’s. He doe’s have a good work history, just MANY short term job’s. And he is a cutter, and he did overdose one time when I told him he had to leave. I dunno what he is/was – but I was scared of him – scared of what he mite do to me and/or to himself…..
Stargazer,
I love it! I did read that post and laughed my butt off! It fits just so well. It does bring a new meaning to the concept of exposing him doesn’t it? LOL I love your sense of humor. Happy to hear that you had a moment. Those are truly priceless!
I have no idea how to make my screename into anything hiphop. I have thought about the same with yours and I’m at a loss. I’m not very hiphop I guess. That appears to be your talent for sure LOL. Perhaps after some sleep I’ll think of something. Stargazer is a great name. Hmmm… this is a challenge LOL
Sweet Dreams