By: Linda Hartoonian Almas, M.S. Ed
Last year, I re-connected via social media, with a childhood friend who I had not seen in years. As mothers with children of similar ages, we had a lot to catch up on. As we did, I learned that she has two children who are suffering from a misunderstood and often misdiagnosed disorder.
She is a wonderfully positive person, who freely discusses her children’s struggles, in hopes of educating others about the issue. She advocates fiercely for them, yet seems to successfully strike a balance between speaking on their behalf and encouraging their independence.
The same, only different
Over time, as I learned more, I found that I identified with her emotions regarding her family’s concerns. Her situation is riddled with various highs and lows. Some days bring serious hurdles to jump, along with grave disappointments, while others bring great pride and immense joy. She and her family see many great successes, but these successes are punctuated with frequent challenges.
While psychopathy is not on her radar and we are dealing with two very different issues, it occurred to me that we share some very similar feelings regarding the paths we are on. One day, while beaming with pride regarding her children’s recent achievements, she pointed out how they rose above their health concerns, accomplishing things that many other parents would simply take for granted.
She said that her children were thriving, in spite of the large number of days that their particular illness had “stolen” from them. I noted that this was not the first time that she had used such terminology. She realizes that no matter how well things go, she cannot change that her children have been “robbed” of certain normal life experiences.
My revelation
Her simple statement brought about a “light bulb moment” for me and really got me thinking. Isn’t that how most of us feel about our experiences with psychopathy or the individuals with psychopathic traits who have touched our lives?
They may have literally stolen many things from us, but most importantly, they did, effectively, “steal” portions of our lives. When we attach a unit of measure to what we endured, even if only in terms of thievery, it helps quantify our experiences.
It allows us to make sense of our lost time and gives us something tangible to take away from our experiences. It also gives us a reference point from which we are able to spring forward.
Prior to her statement, I had not thought in such terms. However, she was right. Again, I identified with what she was saying.
Wasted time
How many days, weeks, months, or years did we spend trying to work with the individuals in our lives with psychopathic features? The chances are good that now that we know what we were up against, our responses would be, “too many.” No actions on our parts could have increased our odds.
What I feel I lost from my brush with psychopathy is almost immeasurable. Yet, at the same time, so is what I gained.
Stolen time
In terms of stolen time, what exactly gets taken from us, as these relationships run their course? While there are numerous constants, some specifics may depend on the types of relationships we experienced.
A psychopathic parent will affect us differently than a psychopathic romantic partner. Nonetheless, the behaviors may be similar and just as abusive and devastating. Also, each carry the potential for long term harm. However, we tend to lose different pieces of our innocence, depending on the natures of our associations.
Regardless, we must accept that, while some forms of these relationships did exist, they were not the ones we thought we were having. Our involvements were based on love, caring, and genuine emotion. Little, if any, of that actually occurred on their ends, even if it appeared to for a time. For them, the associations were lies. Because of this, we were unable to take any meaningful actions. Nothing was real. Stolen time.
What about significant life events that we were shortchanged on in our experiences with psychopaths? In life, we encounter many emotionally charged moments, such as the births of children or the deaths of loved ones. We tend to experience a variety of feelings when something special or significant occurs.
Psychopathic individuals, however, do not experience these emotions in the same ways that we do. Therefore, their reactions tend to be quite different from ours. We may feel great joy or pain, they may feel next to nothing out of the ordinary. We may have tried to share our feelings, victories, or defeats, hoping that they could “feel” along with us. They could not. Rather, anger and rage at our attempts ensued.
In spite of our desires, we were forced to walk the emotional experiences alone. Their muted or non-existent affects left us feeling empty and disappointed. Their rages left us upset and confused. Stolen emotions. Stolen relationships.
Worse yet, often, the experiences we have with these individuals are so damaging that we try to eliminate them from our memories completely. Unfortunately, along with forgetting the bad they inflicted, we sometimes lose portions of the good we encountered with others who surrounded us. Stolen memories.
There are numerous other ways they violate us and take from us, as well. The above are only a few examples.
Truths acknowledged
Unfortunately, if we were involved with psychopathic individuals, the truth is that portions of our lives may have been stolen by the disorder. While we may be able to recover the financial or material losses psychopaths create, some of our losses are not tangible items that we can take back. To some extent, we may always have to live with the trappings of these experiences.
As a result, it is important to own the losses. No one likes feeling robbed of special or irreplaceable pieces of our lives. We deserved more than mechanical and insincere responses, if we got any at all.
However, again, our knowledge and understanding can set us free. We must acknowledge any pain, so that we can leave it behind. It is not worth hanging on to.
Rising and conquering
That is not to say that we can or should try to erase what we lived. We should, however, work to thrive. We can do this, not only in spite of our experiences, but because of them. Sometimes, I feel like it took such an experience for me to reach my potential. I know what I learned has caused me to push myself to attempt and achieve things I never otherwise would have.
We can find goodness amongst the setbacks, by using the wisdom that our experiences gave us.
We can surround ourselves with loving people, who truly share our values and treat us well, rather than embrace disordered imposters. In fact, we may come to the point of being able to thank our imposters for showing us what it was like to live “half alive.” Without that education, we may not have been able to recognize “full-on” living. We can come to know calm, regarldess of what they may do.
After taking hits and having pieces of our lives “stolen,” we can recover and have and be more than we ever imagined.
Like my friend, who will never be able to alter the realities surrounding her children’s challenges, we cannot change what was. We can, however, conquer what will be; each of us, in our own ways.
skylar:
Exactly! Thank you once again for making my conscious catch up with my subconscious! Once I read your words about us not being stupid, but instead, trusting…you are so right! That’s what I was. Not stupid at all. Actually a very smart, independent woman who had never been taken like that before! But that’s it…I was “trusting.” Just a woman trusting that what I was being told was true. Why should I have thought otherwise, yeah??
What I hate about it is that they THINK we are stupid. See us as stupid and I HATE that. It’s one of the things that still really bugs me.
This makes me realize that mine accomplished exactly what he wanted…to break me down, to make me not trust another man ever again…to have that control over me even from afar…that control where I don’t even want to be sexually with another man…that he can gloat that he was the last one to have me…he loves that. UGGHHH.
Truthspeak: That was very and still is very hard for me to
accept. That there is NO ‘help’ for them. But the proof in
the pudding IS their lack of even ATTEMPTING it, even
though they will admit and KNOW they need the help.
Even though they KNOW they are mean and ugly to others.
THEY JUST DONT CARE. They are equal opportunity haters.
THAT to me is just another ‘con’ job, if you ask me.
I personally handed his LIFE to him on a fricking
silver platter with nothing but love and best of
intentions for many years…
What I got in return was almost MURDERED in more
than one way. And I am not the only person in this
situation. I KNOW FOR A FACT. He BEATS and is
mean, cruel, pushy and ugly to ALL his women.
From his mother, all through his entire life….
EVERY WOMAN he is involved with.
They ARE NOT worth the emotions or thoughts
although the ruminations are always running
rampant inside my head.
I cut them off from reaching my heart
when I had my heart attack and surgeries
that almost took my life. Every time I would
feel a ‘pang’ of compassion or sympathy or
hurt or sadness through all this, instead of
my allowing it to reach the ‘registry’ inside
my heart, I recognized that emotion coming,
beforehand, and I filed it away in my PTSD file.
In the past six months of my being completely NC,
I have learned and taught myself to direct those thoughts
elsewhere. Although it has been like being physically,
turned inside out, I had to stop my emotion and see it
for what it really is and then lay it down.
Each time I do that, I get stronger and stronger.
The pain isn’t any less, when recalling these things,
but I have learned I can REDIRECT IT now. It takes
a strong desire, will and commitment. But, I am here,
to tell you all, IT CAN BE DONE.
Part of the ‘healing’ process from that heart attack
and surgeries was CUTTING OUT THE DRAMA AND
STRESS: Even though “IT” knew I had this condition,
“IT” persisted threatening, stalking, etc., thereby making
my heart attack (based on stress and a couple bad
arteries) a direct result of this psychopathic encounter.
NOW: “IT” knows I could EASILY BECOME “IT’s” 3rd strike.
(Here, in the States, if you have 3 high crimes against you,
you are going to prison for the rest of your life under a
‘repeat offender’ position.) He has TWO. I have yet to
reveal ‘technically legally’ any parts of this encounter
LEGALLY to the authorities and I am holding back on
that because MY LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO DEAL WITH
THIS NONSENSE!!!! And, I am NOT.
He had MORE than enough opportunity and chances
to make amends. To offer sincere apologies…
That is NOT in their game plan.
Oh yes, all this ugliness that we have found in the aftermath,
THAT TOO was part of the plan. It was all INTENDED. Don’t
fool yourselves —- all these emotions and hurtfulness, etc.,
we are coming through – that is all ‘tried and true’ stuff.
They have already ‘perfected’ it by the time they got to us.
THAT shows you the depth of their insanity.
THEY KNOW YOU ARE GOING THROUGH THIS and
loving every moment. After that, they just don’t care.
Life sucks them up and they go away but you have to
see the webs coming undone….
Those were all little seeds planted in our minds.
Some are reality and truth and others are not.
I found for myself, personally, the whole ‘aftermath’
experience, very detrimental to my health and life.
All done with INTENT and we absorb it subconsciously.
They are MASTERS of MANIPULATION.
You are right Truthspeak…
The professionals need to step up.
Call a spade a spade.
Until they do, they – themselves – are in denial. Hm?
Happy day – with love ~ Dupey
To Louise,
Oprah said: To fight a lawsuit you gotta stay in the anger.
Sometimes I feel like I should have sued for punitive damages. But, I know he would have turned it around on me. I would be paying his damages. His damages cause he can no longer mooch off me, and can no longer terrorize me…!
Got an off-topic question. for those who burn with wood stoves. Last night my house filled with smoke from the wood stove. My son found this out when he came home from work after 11:30 at night. He woke me up.
The wood stove was working fine before and it worked fine today. But, last night there was a problem. It seemed like something blocked the air flow in chimney. I’m scared of it. I’ll burn during the day, but need alternate heat source for night.
Jeannie,
make sure your home is insured then call a licensed chimney sweep. He can inspect and find he problem. Make sure he is licensed and insured as well. You don’t want to lose your home.
jeannie:
I agree about the anger. I still have not totally written off reporting him. Every time I get a wave of anger, I want to do it.
Jeanie and Louise, I’m in sort of a similar situation, here. I have documentation (mountains of it) of the exspath’s forgeries, alone. Other records reflect tens of thousands of dollars removed, in cash, from ATM machines.
I’ve consulted a number of attorneys about pursuing civil AND criminal action and they have all declined. There’s no money in it for them because he burned up all of the assets. He only has his income and retirement, so even if a judgement were made, there’s no way to force him to pay the legal fees that an attorney would want to be paid. Sure, he could face a lifetime of liens and judgements, but he would simply quit job after job to avoid paying. There’s no money in it for them.
So, it all boils down to what makes sense. Does the spath have financial assets that he/she isn’t going to liquidate before a trial? Does the spath have a position of employment that will be lifelong and utterly foolish for them to abandon? Is there any way to make certain that the spath isn’t going to simply quit their jobs and leave the State or country? How, precisely, will the spath PAY a judgement if they don’t want to?
We live in a world with rules, parameters, ethics, and integrity. Spaths live in a world where those values apply ONLY to others, and this includes criminal consequences. They are immune (literally immune) to rules and consequences, so there’s no guarantee that any civil or criminal legal action is going to result in some form of satisfaction. It’s a long process and defense attorneys get mighty ugly with victims.
Yeah, I’m angry about these facts and truths. I’m pissed off because I’m in the situation that I’m am. But, I know (academically) that all of this drama/trauma isn’t going to make one iota of impact on this planet. People are used and abused, every day, by predators, and my situation won’t stop this planet from spinning on its axis regardless of how thoroughly I was ruined.
Jeannie812, birds often will sit next to an exhaust flue or stack to get warm. The carbon monoxide causes the bird to pass out (seriously) and fall down into the flue or pipe, but your pipe should have a cap on the top to prevent this, as well as preventing huge bits of ignited materials from flying out. Absolutely, call a licensed chimney sweep.
Brightest blessings
Dupey, bless you, dear one.
Yeah, it’s all part of the “growing up” process, and I don’t necessarily “like” having to learn these things at this late stage. But, it is what it is, and I can choose to recover, or not. And, I’m too ornery to NOT recover, even if it’s a lifelong recovery! LOL
Hugs and brightest blessings
Truthspeak:
In my situation, I would not be suing the spath; I would be suing the company I worked for and they have very deep pockets. I have emails, Instant Messages and texts from him that prove he pursued me. He was not allowed to do that. He was in an executive position and I was only at Assistant level. He abused his power. I also have proof that they already knew what he was doing and they did nothing to stop him. I have absolutely no doubt I would get a settlement.
Well, Louise, it would have to be a personal decision. I’m of the belief that, if there’s a legal way to make an spath pay, go for it. But, the downside to this is that a corporate attorney is going to turn the tables, quite effectively, and say, “Well, you’re an adult. You made a choice…..” and everything else. The problem with this is that YOU know what actually happened, and YOU were victimized, and corporate attorneys will have an opportunity to RE-victimize you in any legal action. Having said that, it would not be a bad idea to talk to a recommended attorney in a consultation about this possibility.
I’ve spent my share of time in Civil, Criminal, and Family Courts, and I am only able to “speak” about my personal experiences. From what I’ve experienced, none of these Courts are interested in justice, or what I would consider “justice” to be. But, your experience might be 180 degrees from my own.
Brightest blessings!