For all of you wishing for the permanent solution to the problem of a sociopathic tormenter an arrangement that will stop him or her from tormenting you heck, the predator won’t torment anyone —here it is!
InstantHitman.com
Solution courtesy of a Lovefraud reader.
skylar
EB,
yep, I watched my spath do “seed planting” too, but he never told me that he had a name for it. He told my BF. And that’s how I learned what he called it – after I broke up with the spath.
He also had a name for his cons: graveling.
It came from a con he pulled on a guy who lived by some gravel near a river. He was so proud of his ability to scam that guy that he had to tell everyone. But of course, he couldn’t use the word con, so he re-named it doing a “gravel”. Since nobody has a connotation for that word used in that way, there is no negative connotation to put him in a bad light. It made it seem like he was doing something unique that nobody else could do, which of course requires a unique name for such a unique act by such a unique person…. puke.
If he had used the words “Pulling a con” then everyone would have immediately known that he was nothing but a low life scum con artist. It’s amazing how they spin everything.
Ox Drover
Quote SKY,
” But their hubris is so great that they see no need for it. The rest of the world should change so that they can keep wearing the same old soiled diaper the rest of their lives. The rest of us should just wear clothes pins on our noses and pretend it doesn’t stink.”
Good one, SKY!!!!
I can’t go to that site and read…just a waste of my time to even listen to their carp! Stinks like ROTTEN FISH!
superkid10
I would really like to see the thread that was deleted.
I want to learn.
one/joy_step_at_a_time
sk – be careful what you wish for.
panther
Sky, you said: But of course, he couldn’t use the word con, so he re-named it doing a “gravel”. Since nobody has a connotation for that word used in that way, there is no negative connotation to put him in a bad light. It made it seem like he was doing something unique that nobody else could do, which of course requires a unique name for such a unique act by such a unique person”. puke.
I actually disagree….if you really pick apart the word “gravel” and think of the word “graveling” then it does, once twisted, sound like he was making a person gravel….right? I think that word was a tell. He could have chosen any word. I noticed that my ex spath and his word salad usually contained words that, if looked at in isolation and just analyzed for a moment, would tell a bit about his character. He was drawn to words that could be seen as grandiose, sadistic, exaggerated, powerful, etc. Even if at first glance it seemed like something else, this word “gravel” struck me because the moment I saw that, I felt it was your ex’s subcon clinging happily to a word that gives him a little sadistic satisfaction with its associated connotations.
skylar
Panther,
do you mean, groveling?
Maybe, but as I remember the story, there was no groveling involved. According to him, he was flying his helicopter very low over the river. He liked to fly just a few feet above the ground going very fast. When you are flying, you don’t get a good sense of speed unless you are near the ground. Where there were power lines he would quickly pull up and miss them.
The only place you can do this is over the rivers.
Anyway, there was a guy who saw him do this and took pictures. Spath saw him. Spath knew the guy was going to report him, so he had to get the pictures from him. How to do this?
Spath bought a fishing pole and other fishing props. And he walked down to the river by the guy’s house pretending to fish. At some point, he went to the guy’s house and convinced him that he had seen “that helicopter that flies really low” and he was incensed about it. He claimed to want to report the guy (himself) but had not gotten the N-number on the copter. Soon enough, the river dweller revealed that he had pictures. Spath convinced him that he knew exactly which authority to report this to, to maximize the trouble that the helicopter pilot would get. He convinced him that he needed all the pictures for evidence. So the guy handed them over. This was before digital cameras were ubiquitious. So there were no more copies. Spath made sure.
The river dweller never groveled. In fact, the entire episode took several days over a couple of weeks. Spath bonded to the river dweller and gained his confidence before he pulled his tricks. As usual. So the river dweller probably felt quite happy about having met such a great guy.
panther
Hi Sky,
Yes, I did mean “groveling” and I didn’t mean to imply that he made the guy grovel. I only meant that the implications in that word alone probably got him off as much as the “feat” did. I think that certain words are “sexy” to spaths and they might cling to them more than others because the word itself pleases them. The fact that he used it as such a “unique” way to describe that he conned someone, in his mind, means he dominated over the situation, which would still insinuate that the other party was the submissive one in the exchange, because the other person didn’t know what was going on and was turned into a victim, dominated over, and controlled. To a sociopath, this may look like groveling, even if the victim doesn’t openly do it. I know that my ex thought people were weak and stupid if he managed to trick them, and he expressed feelings of superiority and dominance when he turned them into these “weak, lower beings” which they NEVER were or could EVER be just because some jerk with no conscience comes along. Of course, to him, it DID mean that they had been reduced as human beings and were “less” once he was finished with them.
What your ex did with that guy sounds more psychopathic than sociopathic. Although I guess the difference between the two isn’t huge. The ability to be so damn patient….this just makes me sick, just thinking of it. How do these fucking people look themselves in the mirror the next morning? I just don’t understand it!!!!!! They are SO SICK!!!!!
panther
And sorry I totally confused the word gravel with grovel. Mwaha. Well, I dunno if my theory works in that case, unless the sound of the word could still make similar associates….but now that is a stretch.
Ox Drover
Panther, the words “sociopath” and “psychopath” are generally used interchangeably, though even professionals don’t clearly agree on what the “definition” of the disorder is….so there really isn’t much if any distinction between a socio-path and a psycho-path. Dr. Robert Hare uses the term psychopath and that is the one I just usually use, Donna uses Socio-path, but the OFFICIAL (at this time, but it will change when the new DSM V comes out) designation is “anti-social personality disorder’—but the problem with that is that it actually sounds like a person who hates being social–in other words, a hermit. LOL But the DSMs were not intended for the general public to read anyway, but for the professionals to have a “check list” of symptoms to diagnose psychological problems with uniformly.
panther
Yeah, I am still a bit confused about the terms at times, because I thought they were different, then I was told they are the same, yet I have noticed that some people make distinctions between them. In the end, I’m not really sure which is which, but at least I know they all suck and I don’t like anything with the word “path” in it unless it’s the word “empath.” Sociopath, psychopath, pathological anything = no thanks. 🙂 And anti-social personality disorder does sound hermit-ish, but I am a hermit and I think we’re called more asocial, not anti-social. You are right that the general public would be confused by that term, but I think the general public has almost no clue anyways about these disorders, no matter what exactly we call them. Can we just call it “Demonic Disorder” ??? I think that would get the message across best.