I recently had clinical contact with a client who left me with the unusually strong, immediate impression of “schemer,” “slick,” “full of crap.” He was instantly, aggressively ingratiating—less, I felt, from insecurity, as from ulterior motives, as if he were angling, at the outset, for an edge.
I had the uncomfortable feeling I get around intrusive salesmen who leave you feeling like an “object” from whom to extract a sale and commission.
I should mention that he was glib. Glibness is a trait often associated with certain sociopaths. My client was so glib, as a matter of fact, that for the first time in a long while the word “glib” actually popped into my head.
When I say “glib,” I don’t mean just fast-talking, which he was. He was shallow, too. And for me, the combination of smooth, fast talking, underlain by shallowness, really captures “glib.”
He was something of a schemer, and it was fascinating to observe him deny or dismiss rife evidence of his historical deceptiveness, abusiveness and double-standards. And he did so with a striking lack of shame, and with much audacity, along with irritation (arrogantly conveyed) to have to even deign to respond to the history.
Now I’d like to shift gears (abruptly), and say something about the psychopath’s (or sociopath’s) alleged “look,” or “stare,” which has been described anecdotally in the literature. Its most obvious form is characterized by a certain crazed intensity (note some of the existing photos of Ted Bundy, and other serial killers).
There are also, I suggest, other, subtler forms of this look. In any case what this “look” transmits (in any of its forms) is something elementally predatory. It has an evaluatively predatory quality.
I suspect that many of you have had the experience of being watched in this way?
It’s more than a feeling of being scrutinized, because all of us scrutinize each other, and clients should be scrutinizing their therapists.
It is more, I think, the quality, or motive, of the scrutiny—again, a predatory aspect that engenders the experience of feeling invaded, and “sized up,” “measured” for ulterior purposes.
At bottom, this is a type of “look” that leaves one feeling watched, studied as an “object.” One experiences the “watcher” as if he or she is calculating, “How much can I have my way with this person? How susceptible is this person to my present interests in him or her?”
My client had this “look.”
He was a “watcher,” and as he watched me, I often had the disconcerting sense that he was less interested in what I had to say, or what I was saying, than in using the time I was speaking to further his evaluation of my vulnerability.
This feeling with, experience of someone, can be a signal. It can signal that something predatory is brewing, or occurring.
I’ve called this the “feel” of a sociopath, because sociopaths sometimes (not always) can stir-up this sensation in those whose paths they’ve crossed, or lives they’ve entered. To be sure, not all sociopaths evoke this experience; but some do, and it can be an uncomfortable, and not easily articulated experience. Depending on the circumstances, it can even feel flatteringly seductive (if still uncomfortable).
Take, for instance, a blind/first-date scenario, in which the exploitative-minded individual approvingly, hungrily, invasively and audaciously sizes-up his date, leaving her feeling flattered (hungrily desired) while at the same time uneasy?
This “sizing up,” “measuring” process too often belies not a hunger for love, and connection, but of acquisition, possession and/or conquest.
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2009 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
bibleannie – pedophilia, organized crime and big pharma. charming. and if some of it is lies, all the more charming.
Yep, he just reconnected with his ex-mother-in-law on FB. What amazes me is how these people get sucked back in. Very, very sad.
After dealing with the Spaths in my life, I’ve been suffering from nightmares about this quality that you describe: the watching.
“It has an evaluatively predatory quality. … At bottom, this is a type of “look” that leaves one feeling watched, studied as an “object.” “How much can I have my way with this person? How susceptible is this person to my present interests in him or her?” He was less interested in what I had to say, or what I was saying, than in using the time I was speaking to further his evaluation of my vulnerability.”
This hits the nail on the head, although many Ns and Spaths I’ve known are so subtle about this that I didn’t detect what was going on at the time. But it is *exactly* what they do. They size us up for vulnerabilities. I’ve even heard them admit it, when they thought I was so stupid that I wouldn’t know what they were talking about. One of them even said to a friend of mine “I don’t know what it is, but I always know how to get inside of a person, and find their weak spot. And I’m really good at using it against them when I want to.” That’s a real quote. They know what they’re doing! They take pride in it, because they have nothing in them to truly be proud about.
Anyway, I also have nightmares about them smothering me, in the sense that they don’t let up until they get what they want. I see one of them in my dreams, smiling (half-charming, half-wicked), leaning in on me, hovering over my personal space, reaching out to seduce me. In the dream, I can’t breathe, I can’t move to escape, and I can’t protect myself. And he laughs as he takes what he wants. I have other dreams where I shut the door on his face, only to turn around and find him inside the room that I was taking refuge in, staring and laughing at me.
Why am I writing all this? I guess your post just brought to the surface some of the feelings that I’ve felt when dealing with these monsters. They do check for our vulnerabilities, and they mean to do it.
Psyche
Dear Psyche,
The nightmares you are having is your brain (I think) processing these feelings of how the P effected you, but now you are FREE of that ability for them to “smother you” so I suggest that before you go to sleep, do a little “relaxation” or “meditation” and tell yourself that you are SAFE now, that they can’t hurt you any more. It might help with the dreams. They will eventually stop on their own when you FEEL safer, but you might be able to advance the time frame with some affirmation of your safety.
For sure you are SEEING what they do to us with their soul rape, the emotional abuse.
Yes, they do size us up, they do find our weak points, but I know for a fact that these same “weakk points” of not giving up, of being tenatious etc. are also STRONG POINTS about us as well. We are STRONG, we are STUBBORN about surviving, and we WILL SURVIVE and not only that, but PROSPER as well! Hang in there, you will get there, and THEY WILL ALWAYS BE A P, you will NOT always be a victim, but a VICTOR!!! (*(((hugs))))))
Hey Ox,
thanks for the pep talk. Yeah, I agree, I am seeing what they do to us in my mind’s eye. I’ve also had other dreams, where I see myself becoming free, becoming whole (in various metaphorical ways), and I’ve also seen myself (in my dreams) living effectively in a world where evil will always be present. it’s just a lot of coming to terms with realities (in these dreams, I mean). Dreams are where we come into contact and process, in various ways, the truths we already know, and truths that we are about to become aware of.
i haven’t had too many of the scary Spath dreams lately, and have had more of the ‘acceptance of realities’ dreams, which I’m taking as a good sign. I look forward to the day when I see myself on the other side of the pain, and living in the prosperity and victory that’s supposed to come with all of this, eventually. For now, I just count myself as a survivor, and take my strength from knowing that despite the worst these monsters have tried to throw at me, I have held my ground, and stood firm in my truth. They can smear my name from here to kingdom come, and ruin all of my relationships, but they can never make me back down from what I know is true, and give in to their lies and games (the latter is the only thing that would get them to stop taking their shots at me).
xo, Psyche
Dear Psyche,
TOWANDA for you!!!! It takes a while and the healing can’t be rushed, like a baby takes 9 months even if you get 9 women preggers at the same time, it doesn’t shorten the process.
The dreams were a big part of me working out my enabling, my taking care of others while my own life fell apart. I have cut way back on that now and am taking care of me FIRST now, and working on getting out of worrying about others.
Setting boundaries is a new process for me, and I realize it is a bit like learning another language as an adult (should ideally learned it as a child) I may never be completely fluent in it, and have to stop and “translate” from my native enabling “language” into my NEW LANGUAGE OF BOUNDARIES.
It doesn’t come easily like riding a bike, it is still a bit wobbly but I am finding the boundaries.
It is first of all necessary to realize that when you set a boundary if the other person does NOT RESPECT IT, you may lose the “relationship” you thought you had with them. You have to be PREPARED for that. When you truly love someone and THINK that they love you and you set a boundary and they STOMP on it and/or you, OPPS!!!! You never had the relationship you thought you did, so the PERCEIVED loss is painful!!!
But the more you practice in not giving a big rat’s behind about the lies others believe, the easier it gets…..and validating ourselves and our truth. The facts and the truth do not depend on outside validation. We trust ourselves and our senses and our thoughts and feelings. It is a goooooood feeling! I’m getting there most of the time now, and the drama is so low, the stress is so low now, I can Really SEE things in a much more rational light! I also am able to realize when I am upset and seeing things either through rose colored glasses or the chit-colored ones of anxiety or anger. So it is coming together —MUCH OF THE TIME. EVEN MOST OF THE TIME. I’m learning! You are TOO!!!!!
“Take, for instance, a blind/first-date scenario, in which the exploitative-minded individual approvingly, hungrily, invasively and audaciously sizes-up his date, leaving her feeling flattered (hungrily desired) while at the same time uneasy? This “sizing up,” “measuring” process too often belies not a hunger for love, and connection, but of acquisition, possession and/or conquest.”
Yes. Mine was exactly like this.. and I noticed that when he wasn’t gaining control of me.. he would go into his mind and comtemplate. I watched him do it all, but was still taken in, if not fully, enough to let him infiltrate my life too much and too fast. Part of it was circumstances and his charm and his good looks…
Others with less going for htem who behaved in this manner, would not have gotten past go.
Combine, good looks, charm, and an ability to use words and then throw in a ‘spiritual’ facade and well…. pretty concivcing but not totally…
I always suspected and held parts of me back..
But their look is one that make you feel like a lab rat.. or an animal being studied. I felt that immediately.
Good sale people can size clients up without this..
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Hi Ox,
What you said about learning boundaries now is like learning a new language as an adult is exactly right. I often have to stop and translate, too. My native language is ‘enabling, pleasing, self-sacrificing, self-doubting’ (you get the picture).
And losses of relationships due to sociopathic influence are exactly what you say, perceived. The relationships couldn’t have been so great if they fell apart so easily, so good riddance, on many levels to all the sociopaths I know, and all the people who put their trust in them. Still, the price of fallout, in real terms, can be hard (like Shelley was saying on a post elsewhere on the site). Jobs are important. Social networks are important. We pay a very high price for sticking to our truths, especially at first – so much gets wiped out, and often so suddenly. Another stage of trauma — and then we have to do an incredible rebuilding job (inside and out) that it can be overwhelming, and disheartening at several stages.
Still, I have hope and faith that there’s peace and a new life on the other side of the fallout and the pain – a life constructed partly on the basis of healthy boundaries, healthy habits, healthy needs/wants/expectations and healthy relationships.
xo, Psyche
Style – that’s a cool link, thanks!
Psyche,
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