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  1. Ox Drover

    I thought this was a very interesting study and I hope that it will be something that can be replicated enough that it becomes a possible way to identify Narcissism on a legal basis, which could be used in courts, maybe family courts, to show that a person is so self centered they would not make a good or nurturing parent.

    But there are narcissists of ALL LEVELS from a little bit to a LOT, so where is the “cut off” line between being a little narcissistic and a LOT?

    As for psychopathy, the same wishes and concerns for a test to “label” someone in court for sentencing purposes might be handy, but it also smacks of “1984-ism” as well.

    I will be interested too see Redwald’s take on this one….he usually has something enlightening to add to a post! Where are you Red? I’m waiting!

  2. Sarah999

    There are 2 reasons the person wouldn’t make a good and nurturing parent:
    1) Because the parent is narcissistic.
    2) Because of the possibility that the the child inherited the personality disorder. (It is nearly impossible to be a good parent a genetically born narcissist).

  3. Ox Drover

    Sarah, It is impossible to be a “good parent” to a psychopath too. LOL Sometimes it is damn near impossible to SURVIVE being a parent to a psychopath.

  4. Sarah999

    The book that is still waiting to be written is about normal parents (empathic loving parents) of psychopathic children.
    Some children inherited the genes from the psychopathic parent (that is usually long gone). The normal parent, (usually the mother), winds up with a lifetime (or at least 20 year) BOOSTER SHOT of psychopathic insanity, that is extremely hard to shake.

  5. Ox Drover

    Sarah, it also skips generations as well…my son who is a psychopath had two grandfathers who were psychopathic and Frankly I don’t think either my former husband or I would in any way qualify as psychopaths, though my x husband did have some serious emotional issues due to his father’s psychopathy.

    My P son Patrick is exactly like my P sperm donor and the two have NEVER met…even their hand writing is alike and the look of their hands, the way they speak and gesture. Spooky. Funny thing is that my son Patrick actually doesn’t look like my sperm donor, where my son C is the look-alike clone. Odd

  6. skylar

    Oxy,
    oohhhh, very very interesting.
    my spath looks like his mother and she is not a spath, his dad was a spath. BUT his hands look EXACTLY like his dad’s hands!!
    A CLUE! Maybe the hands are a clue!
    I’m taking a poll: anyone who has ever noted anything about their spath’s hands and who they take after, please post!

  7. Ox Drover

    Sky, UN scientific poll…there IS however, SCIENTIFIC evidence from researchers though that more of them are LEFT HANDED than would be found in the general population. It is also known that left handed people have brains that are wired differently.

    One thing that interested me about left handedness…in identical twins (made from one egg and one sperm) if the twins don’t separate until after the 13th day, one will be left handed and one right handed. I knew some twins like that is the reason I happened to find out that little bit of trivia information. They are called “mirror image” twins.

    Twins raised apart, both identical and non identical, do have a much higher rate of Pspathyness than would be found otherwise, so there is a proven genetic link.

  8. skylar

    Oxy,
    here’s some more data about left handedness. Unscientific.
    It’s called the disappearing twin. And as it turns out, due to new technologies, like ultrasound and MRI, they are seeing that many more pregnancies start out as twins or more, during part of the pregnancy. But in a certain number of cases, some of the fetuses are reabsorbed by the sibling.

    So it is thought that this might be the cause of left-handedness in single births: the lefty won and the righty is gone.

    These are theories and not enough data is out there.

    http://neuroemotional.com/wb/pages/vanishing-twin-syndrome.php
    http://charlestaylor.wordpress.com/2007/01/16/multiple-births/

    read the comments on the second link – interesting.

  9. Sarah999

    Psychopathy may be linked to any number of physical characteristics….which is interesting….but we need only look at the charactetistics of the psychpath (and not the genetic links) to make a diagnoses. This is the one abnormality that is more accurately diagnosed by the victim, rather than a professional (who usually only sees the mask)

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